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Michelle waking up about Katie Hopkins...POSSIBLE SPOILER
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anne_666
30-01-2015
http://bigbrother.channel5.com/day-24-whos-playing-game

Interesting stuff? After last night's waking up about Katie H, I'm sure that's who she's referring to and I don't believe she's only just realised what she's about. She suited her purposes as back up, to gather up the weakest HM's, to ostracise Perez. She knew Katie H could be nothing on her own that she's a gullible obnoxious adolescent and desperate for any perceived power..
planets
30-01-2015
Originally Posted by anne_666:
“http://bigbrother.channel5.com/day-24-whos-playing-game

Interesting stuff? I'm sure that's who she's referring to and I don't believe she's only just realised what Katie H is about. She suited her purposes as back up, to gather up the weakest HM's, to ostracise Perez. She knew Katie H could be nothing on her own that she's a gullible obnoxious adolescent and desperate for any perceived power..”

who walked past at the end was it Keith? i thought that was who she was flicking her eyes towards?
Flo71
30-01-2015
She's worried that KP is more popular than Kh, and that she's making herself unpopular with all the bitching with KH.
sandy50
30-01-2015
Originally Posted by anne_666:
“http://bigbrother.channel5.com/day-24-whos-playing-game

Interesting stuff? After last night's waking up about Katie H, I'm sure that's who she's referring to and I don't believe she's only just realised what she's about. She suited her purposes as back up, to gather up the weakest HM's, to ostracise Perez. She knew Katie H could be nothing on her own that she's a gullible obnoxious adolescent and desperate for any perceived power..”

You've just made assumptions- they never mentioned any names at all - and just a rant about Katie H. Michelle said people are playing games, she could mean more than one ! We don't know. And if she means Katie H, who she gets on with.........it is a gameshow. Michelle told Katie H she thinks she can WIN the whole show !, as Katie H put it in her column , I think Michelle is rather deluded !

Don't know what it is about Michelle but she's just expressionless and when she snapped at Katie Price , ,her expression stayed the same then too, very strange.
anne_666
30-01-2015
Originally Posted by planets:
“who walked past at the end was it Keith? i thought that was who she was flicking her eyes towards?”

I've watched it again. She just seems to be staring across the room. There are hardly any clips from today so I couldn't tell if it was Keith from the shirt. I was think more about her last night, as a follow on from that. Although she could , of course, be referring to more than one person.
Captain Kipper
30-01-2015
Whats this "waking up to Hopkins" business?

Michelle always knew what KH was about, she hasn't changed from day one, and Michelle has said on several occasions that she doesn't agree with KH on a lot of things but she makes her laugh.
anne_666
30-01-2015
Originally Posted by sandy50:
“You've just made assumptions- they never mentioned any names at all - and just a rant about Katie H. ..”

I was not having a rant, thank you, I was stating my opinion as we are all entitled to do on this forum.
Flowes
30-01-2015
Originally Posted by anne_666:
“I've watched it again. She just seems to be staring across the room. There are hardly any clips from today so I couldn't tell if it was Keith from the shirt. I was think more about her last night, as a follow on from that. Although she could , of course, be referring to more than one person.”

I agree with your assumption as a follow on from last night. I think it was Keith that walked past but that she only looked at him in the way you do when someone walks past
anne_666
30-01-2015
Originally Posted by Captain Kipper:
“Whats this "waking up to Hopkins" business?

Michelle always knew what KH was about, she hasn't changed from day one, and Michelle has said on several occasions that she doesn't agree with KH on a lot of things but she makes her laugh.”

I notice backstabbing hasn't been thrown at her yet!

As her backstabbing about Katie H has only just begun, I think it speaks volumes.
mitacond
30-01-2015
Originally Posted by anne_666:
“http://bigbrother.channel5.com/day-24-whos-playing-game

Interesting stuff? After last night's waking up about Katie H, I'm sure that's who she's referring to and I don't believe she's only just realised what she's about. She suited her purposes as back up, to gather up the weakest HM's, to ostracise Perez. She knew Katie H could be nothing on her own that she's a gullible obnoxious adolescent and desperate for any perceived power..”

As soon as Katie P told Katie H some home truths the other day Michelle started to butter up Katie P. Michelle , seemingly , knows who the most vociferous hm apart from Peres and has been walking in her shadow and agreeing with her every word. Now seemingly, Michelle is moving away from Katie H slowly and is moving into the Katie P arena.
mitacond
30-01-2015
Originally Posted by anne_666:
“I was not having a rant, thank you, I was stating my opinion as we are all entitled to do on this forum.”

I agree with you.
Captain Kipper
30-01-2015
Originally Posted by anne_666:
“I notice backstabbing hasn't been thrown at her yet!

As her backstabbing about Katie H has only just begun, I think it speaks volumes.”

Well that's up to Michelle in how she proceeds from now on, but she had best be careful as she wont get her old fans back as they feel disappointed in her, but she'll lose some newer fans if she jumping the KH ship.

I don't mind either way as im purely a KH supporter, Michelle was always a "blah blah blah" HM for me.
anne_666
30-01-2015
There could be two things going on here. She said she wants to win. She's heard the panto on eviction nights of cheers for Katie H. Sow some seeds of discontent around the HM's. In that respect she's kept her enemy very close until now, the next move. It wouldn't surprise me if she's saying the same to her gang of wanabee sheeples.
She has also said she's a huge admirer of Katie P and her success. Latch onto her for now as she knows she really is successful with a huge following she thinks she will appeal to by doing so..
Katie H is nothing in any way in comparison to Katie P as far as being liked and followed, in the media or any meaningful success or influence.
anne_666
30-01-2015
Originally Posted by Captain Kipper:
“Well that's up to Michelle in how she proceeds from now on, but she had best be careful as she wont get her old fans back as they feel disappointed in her, but she'll lose some newer fans if she jumping the KH ship.

I don't mind either way as im purely a KH supporter, Michelle was always a "blah blah blah" HM for me.”

I disagree with you. Katie P is a huge independent success with a vast number of followers. She's gaining a hell of a lot more than she's losing with Hopkins in the house and the real world. Katie P is far from stupid. She started the whole fame for breathing and manipulation of the media thing a long time ago and has made millions from it for years. .

I think Michelle is playing a very good game. I don't actually like her at all.
Captain Kipper
30-01-2015
Originally Posted by anne_666:
“I disagree with you. Katie P is a huge independent success with a vast number of followers. She started the whole fame for breathing and manipulation of the media thing years ago. .

I think Michelle is playing a very good game. I don't actually like her at all.”

But if Michelle distances herself from KH now after Perez and his very hyped up stories of what he says he saw in the secret room it'll look like shes been influenced by him...don't forget, it's Michelle who says she'll be friends with whoever she likes and wont be swayed by others opinions.
sandy50
30-01-2015
Originally Posted by Flo71:
“She's worried that KP is more popular than Kh, and that she's making herself unpopular with all the bitching with KH.”

Calum unusually made a very good point- they are all going to talk about eachother, it happens, and how did you come to that conclusion from that VT, when it could have been Keith they were talking about ? Wasn't it him walking past and Michelle's eyes went to him ? Hard to tell.
anne_666
30-01-2015
Originally Posted by Captain Kipper:
“But if Michelle distances herself from KH now after Perez and his very hyped up stories of what he says he saw in the secret room it'll look like shes been influenced by him...don't forget, it's Michelle who says she'll be friends with whoever she likes and wont be swayed by others opinions.”

She is distancing herself from KH, there's little doubt about that. She knows KH is generally considered an obnoxious juvenile joke and despised in the real world, an untouchable for most of the celebrity world, media and environment. She's far more astute than to limit her thinking to CBB.

She's got her first show starting in the UK after this.

As I said she's playing a very good game.
zelda fan
30-01-2015
To be honest as far as i am concerned it is too little too late where Michelle is concerned. I find her manipulative and deeply insincere, not to mention i find her delusions of leadership over all gay people ridiculous. Instead of isolating one of only two gay men in the house she could have maybe stood by her convictions of championing freedom and equality by opposing the way Perez and Alicia were treated by a larger group.
sandy50
30-01-2015
Originally Posted by Captain Kipper:
“Whats this "waking up to Hopkins" business?

Michelle always knew what KH was about, she hasn't changed from day one, and Michelle has said on several occasions that she doesn't agree with KH on a lot of things but she makes her laugh.”

Michelle's eyes seem cold to me, she's expressionless, or maybe she's had work done ?
I don't think she's very likeable at all, she isn't funny and she comes across as really hard.
anne_666
30-01-2015
Originally Posted by zelda fan:
“To be honest as far as i am concerned it is too little too late where Michelle is concerned. I find her manipulative and deeply insincere, not to mention i find her delusions of leadership over all gay people ridiculous. Instead of isolating one of only two gay men in the house she could have maybe stood by her convictions of championing freedom and equality by opposing the way Perez and Alicia were treated by a larger group.”

Oh I agree with you, don't get me wrong. There's no doubt she's shot herself in the foot and exposed her blatant hypocrisy and sycophancy. She will be totally unaware of that in her head.
sandy50
30-01-2015
Originally Posted by zelda fan:
“To be honest as far as i am concerned it is too little too late where Michelle is concerned. I find her manipulative and deeply insincere, not to mention i find her delusions of leadership over all gay people ridiculous. Instead of isolating one of only two gay men in the house she could have maybe stood by her convictions of championing freedom and equality by opposing the way Perez and Alicia were treated by a larger group.”

It's interesting with her as she said that Perez was in the House for himself and noone else,but they all are, apart from her apparently,--- but the fact she's already says she wants to win , isn't she doing the same ? She's very dull and I agree she comes across as very insincere and she's so stoney-faced, I don't like her, and wouldn't miss her if she left next, after tonight's eviction.

The perfect scenario tonight would have been : Keith,Kav, Michelle
zelda fan
30-01-2015
Originally Posted by anne_666:
“Oh I agree with you, don't get me wrong. There's no doubt she's shot herself in the foot and exposed her blatant hypocrisy and sycophancy. She will be totally unaware of that in her head.”

Good *evil smile* i want her get her comeuppance for thinking she can play us the viewers.
Flo71
30-01-2015
Originally Posted by sandy50:
“Calum unusually made a very good point- they are all going to talk about eachother, it happens, and how did you come to that conclusion from that VT, when it could have been Keith they were talking about ? Wasn't it him walking past and Michelle's eyes went to him ? Hard to tell.”

Sorry, I wasn't necessarily talking about the VT, just that since KP has started to stand up to KH Michelle seems to have started to waiver in her defence of KH. Even saw her playing with Perez in one clip, something that I'm pretty sure KH wouldn't like, combine that with sitting chatting to KP who KH has had a couple of run ins now and I think that it's fairly obvious Michelle is rethinking joining forces with KH. Well rethinking it now a better offer has come along. Makes Michelle look like a user.
sandy50
30-01-2015
Originally Posted by Flo71:
“Sorry, I wasn't necessarily talking about the VT, just that since KP has started to stand up to KH Michelle seems to have started to waiver in her defence of KH. Even saw her playing with Perez in one clip, something that I'm pretty sure KH wouldn't like, combine that with sitting chatting to KP who KH has had a couple of run ins now and I think that it's fairly obvious Michelle is rethinking joining forces with KH. Well rethinking it now a better offer has come along. Makes Michelle look like a user.”

I think that's the editing,probably reaching to find KP and Michelle in same frame to give them some coverage,as recent VTs show Katie and Michelle same as usual joined at the hip and applying fake tan to eachother.
zelda fan
30-01-2015
Originally Posted by sandy50:
“It's interesting with her as she said that Perez was in the House for himself and noone else,but they all are, apart from her apparently, but the fact she's already says she wants to win , isn't she doing the same ? She's very dull and I agree she comes across as very insincere, I don't like her, and wouldn't miss her if she left next, after tonight's eviction.

The perfect scenario tonight would have been : Keith,Kav, Michelle”

We agree on something sandy this must be for the first time. I especially agree about kav and Michelle those two needed to leave ages ago.
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