..............but it was ok for Ken to be ostracized on her say so, and hers alone? It was okay for her to sweep under the carpet Perez's treatment of Alexander and then blame Perez's threats to Calum on KH even though they were Perez's words and threats, which she thought were funny? Perhaps the reason she found Perez's behaviour so hilarious in the clip shown on BBOTs was because in this instance he had a go a Calum and wasn't it Calum that had actually dared to utter the ultimate of heinous insults ....... her food could be heavy and that for a change he'd like something lighter? That sent her off into one hell of an incandescent and rageful rant, from which she never recovered in the eyes of BB viewers.

Imo, she is blinkered and whilst she can see the bad in others and their behaviour when it comes to herself and Perez, it's always someone else fault! Thats why she was voted out...and that's why she was acting her socks off on BBOTs, simply to disguise and blame her own shortcomings on others and to hide the fact she was gutted to be out but worse still that KH was saved!

Imagine how you'd live with yourself, if on the basis of peer pressure and the need to survive the show, you gave in to Hopkin's rules? Hopkins is the biggest game player in the history of UK CBB. For Nadia, this is a case of better out than in. I imagined there would be an almighty clash between the two of them at the beginning of the show but Nadia chose not to go there. And I respect her for that. She remained dignified to the end even though she despises everything that Hopkins stands for. And who can blame her.

Not getting the public adulation for Hopkins when her obnoxiousness is well known to the British public. So, on the basis of making others lives in the house miserable, we're supposed to take something from this and see another side. What other side? She's just as rude and mean inside the house as she is when she appears on the media circuit sharing her views about the 'riff raff'

This is the kind of supposition that passes for being a good judge of character. Sadly, in the case of Hopkins there is nothing hidden, she is what she is. However you are really stretching credulity by positing motivations for Nadia's behaviour, based, I must add, on what is becoming the new common-sense about Hopkins.

I do look forward to Hopkin's return to her career once the show ends and the opportunity to say 'I told you so'.

Good post

I think people tend to forget the first week of Nadia the police woman
in Nadias opinions its always someone elses fault

I wasn't discussing KH.......I was giving my opinion on Nadia, perhaps if you kept to the topic of the thread rather than simply regurgitating your opinion of KH we might have something relevant to discuss. As for "I told you so"...that is the worst way to get any argument across, as it simply causes defenses to be put up and any good points you may raise get lost in the arrogance of the expression and a struggle for power results.

Nadia never went around the house ordering people to ignore Ken. Nor did she ignore Ken, she tried to reason eith him and handled it badly; he was not ostracised.

It's simply untrue to say that Nadia didn't see the bad in Perez. She pulled him up on his behaviour repeatedly.

Why does everyone assume because someone doesn't like Nadia or her behaviour they must be a Katie H supporter? I for one am NOT a KH supporter but I also saw things about Nadia that turned me completely off her. I don't have a problem with her even being friends with Perez however; I don't like the way she would stick her two oars in to every conversation or argument regarding their behaviour, but would wait until after the fact to say anything to Perez.

Even after it was shown to her that Calum wasn't slagging her off she couldn't admit that she was wrong to believe Perez. She said Calum said it bitchy.

I dislike Nadia for the simple reasons she likes the sound of her own voice, and she thinks she's never wrong. Nothing to do with Katie H

I did point out that your views on Nadia were merely supposition based on what you believed she was doing.

As for my comment on looking forward to saying "I told you so" I continue to stand by that. You might not like the fact that you are being given a window into the near future when rent-a-gob Hopkins returns to media circuit completely unchanged by the time she has had to examine and reflect on how people who were previously strangers relate to her and continues to demonize those she views as her inferiors so she can pay her kids' school fees.

However, your point about power struggles is a good one and I see how you might think it arrogant to say "I told you so". But honestly my intention was to show that I don't believe Hopkins time in the CBB house will lead to her becoming a more compassionate human being. And not to be intimidating.

I quite liked her when she went in, but don't like her at all now.

..........and my point continues to be that I was following the topic of the thread which was Nadia. My only mention of KH was in the context of Nadia's behaviour and comments on being evicted. I was neither supporting KH nor condemning her, I was discussing my opinion of Nadia. My opinions are based on what I see of a HMs behaviour in the house, that is why it is such eye opening viewing. If you wish to use each and every opportunity to promote your opinion of KH and reiterate what in your opinion are her failings now and in the future, then start a relevant thread and we can all debate it there!

point taken. i hope there are no hard feelings.

I completely agree. I didn't dislike Nadia because she clashed with KH or was friends with PH. I disliked her because she came across as an interfering, opinionated busybody.

None whatsoever.....always good to have a debate. I'm sure no offense was meant and certainly none was taken.

Me too! She was straight on to KH like a rat up a drainpipe - bonkers

cheers Zabe.