http://www.channel5.com/shows/celebr...episode-18-225

From 30.40 mins in

Perez's threatening and offensive tirade at Calum
<warning offensive language> (understatement)

That was Perez's choice to say them things, nobody elses, regardless who started the arguement. His choice, same as it was Calum's choice to come back. Nadia needs to stop blaming others for his actions. Also I am fed up of hearing Nadia say she was booed because of Perez, no, people actually disliked her for her, it's unfair she uses his name for her negative reaction. Some people actually like Perez and not her.

Below is something I posted in another thread. It was in response to another poster saying that Calum had originally said something offensive to Perez....so I had a little rant! Sandy50 - hope you don't mind me reposting this...


Calum said something quite close to you be a dick because you're good at it. Perez said, in varying ways, I'll take my dick and stick it up your a"" - and he said it not just once, but 4 times.

What Calum said was minor compared to anything that most other HMs, including Perez, say on a daily basis. What Perez said was out of line and should have had him immediately taken from the house. If he had said to one of the women that he was going to stick his dick up your vagina (or whatever he might come up with) he would have been taken out then and there.

Why on earth, in this day and age, was that comment taken against another man not taken as seriously as it would have been done if it had been against a woman?

And Nadia...you were ready to call the police on the likes of Ken seeking out butts to watch and Jeremy copping a feel of Chloe? Do you not see this as just as serious an act as either of those things?

I despair...I love this show and I love reactions, but when BB looks at things in such a skewed way I despair. I have NEVER been this wound up by something a HM has done.

There...calming now...breathing now...I'm sorry for the rant, but I do feel better.

Katie H for the win!!!

Get that vile creature that is Perez Hilton out of the house.

I don't see on that clip, either before or after it , Katie Hopkins saying ANYTHING that could have led to Perez's outburst - so I've no idea why Nadia said on BOTs that she was responsible. She really has a problem in acknowledging when Perez is in the wrong , she just can't bring herself to do it, it's really strange --

Perez doesn't take responsibility for any of his negative behaviour. The way he spoke to BB in the Diary Room when he was given an official warning, he was completely dismissive of what he'd done - so disrespectful.

I wonder how many complaints BB will get after this latest incident,yet again.......involving Perez ?

Incoming Perez Defenders, defending the indefensible...5 4 3 2 1

** hard hat on **

Perez can insinuate rape and not get kicked out. He's right, it's the Perez show. BB should just end the farce if warnings fir offense. Let people say what they want.

You posted that Perez was 'a queen who deserved a good beating'

Hardly in a position to speak of the 'indefensible' are you ?

The thing is, whether you think Perez is right or wrong on this issue, if he gets thrown out he should be accompanied by Katie H who threatened to "rape" Perez anally with the rule book on a number of occasions.

either that, or in both cases, you can accept that it is just foul behaviour from both of them that is not, in either case, meant to be taken as a literal threat of harm to another person's body

Sums it up brilliantly - I just can't believe what they're letting Perez get away with. It will be very interesting how they edit tonight's HL Show, and if Katie Hopkins said anything that Nadia was purporting she did to start that row

-but even if she did say anything, it's not shown on that clip while Perez and Calum were exchanging words, and Perez and Calum are the only ones responsible for what comes out their mouths- so we'll see won't we.

It's not quite the same is it, - and Perez has been given an official warning.

I imagine because its an edited hightlight and Nadia saw it all.

I thought it was funny.

So it's okay for straight man Conor to just get a warning for it but Perez does it so he has to be kicked out. Hmm. Interesting. Different rules for different people I see.

Sometimes, when people are ganged up on, as Katie, Calum and Cami have openly said they are doing,then the cross a line when backed in to a corner.

I don't excuse what he said but he got his warning just like others.

Perez is a vile excuse for a human being but Katie is worse because she is personally and openly, as she has said so herself, directing a campaign of harassment and provocation against Perez with the declared aim of pushing him in to breaking rules so he will be kicked out.

The rule book specifically prohibits people from isolating others like this. Helen Wood was formally warned about it last year. But despite openly saying she is doing it and continuing to do so, Katie hasn't been warned at all. That's hypocrisy and unfair.

Why isn't it?

But we only hear Perez and Calum - Katie H isn't speaking while that incident is going on , they've not edited that bit, - so it doesn't excuse them , or apportions blame on Katie does it.

It does if she has deliberately provoked the argument with the specific intention of provoking Perez to break rules. That is harassment.

Have you ever had an argument on your own against two or three people?

How is that EVER justified.

Perez has had issues with the men in that house, he did with Ken, he did with Alexander and he does with Calum. It was only a matter of time before Perez went for Calum,......and i'm glad it backfired on Perez this time and he got a formal warning from BB.

The clip of Perez's offensive outburst was shown on BOTS and to Nadia- it was her opportunity to redeem herself , but ........what did Nadia say after that clip of Perez's offensive rant at Calum ? NOTHING ABOUT PEREZ'S BEHAVIOUR ...........she went straight in, all guns blazing, and said : Katie Hopkins was responsible for it

isn't it? both are instances of another person saying they are going to shove something up another person's behind.....why do you think it's not the same thing?

But we don't not what happened before that lead up tp it.

Completley agree. They should be consistent or forget it. That would change the whole show, openly racist, homophobic attitudes would be allowed. It's the inconsistency and the open favouritism which spoils the show. Perez is the best housemate ever, BB should just be honest and admit they don't want to lose him or Hopkins.

You can see the clip, and we can hear who's talking. We'll see on the HL Show, and i'm sure Nadia will provide a version somewhere by end of the day anyway

- but even if Katie H was involved in discussion with Calum about the time the lights went off for example (before it kicked off) ...she didn't make Perez say those words did she. It's still ludicrous to blame Katie for something Perez said.

Vulgar, crass, mental, insane, disgusting, vile, nasty, manipulative, self-centred, self-obsessed, vain and disturbed creature. He's so messed up I think he's at the point of no return. What happens when you attack other humans for so long, I think he has literally disappeared so far up his own backside, he can't escape.

Eammon was right, he does have a tail and horns.

Just like we don't know what it was that Alexander did to provoke that face off with Perez. He did something and it's so bad that Nadia will still not say what it was as it could still, outside the house, hurt Alexander.

Funny how the show is editing out all the provocations. It's almost as though they are protecting someone who is the real villain of the piece. But they wouldn't do that like they did with Conor and Jay would they?

I'm not blaming Katie for what Perez said, that's missing the point. I'm blaming Katie for what Katie has done, and that is lead a campaign of hatred and harassment against someone for two weeks. But she's getting a get out of jail free card because her victim is someone loud who people are irritated by.

Great television isn't he