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Perez's offensive tirade at Calum ***SPOILER VIDEO *** from BOTs
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BellaRosa
31-01-2015
Originally Posted by sandy50:
“http://www.channel5.com/shows/celebr...episode-18-225

From 30.40 mins in

Perez's threatening and offensive tirade at Calum
<warning offensive language> (understatement)”

I cannot believe he has not been thrown out the house. The amount of vile stuff he has done against the other hm's is beyond belief.

I can only think he did something unacceptable to Alex and he was paid a large sum to keep quiet. What other reason is there why Alex left that way.

Nice seeing Nadia finding that sort of thing funny.
Sun Tzu.
31-01-2015
Amazed some people are falling for Katie Hopkins act. It's so transparent too.
DiamondDoll
31-01-2015
Originally Posted by Sun Tzu.:
“Amazed some people are falling for Katie Hopkins act. It's so transparent too.”

Why?

This thread is 'Perez's offensive tirade at Calum'.
sandy50
31-01-2015
Originally Posted by BellaRosa:
“I cannot believe he has not been thrown out the house. The amount of vile stuff he has done against the other hm's is beyond belief.

I can only think he did something unacceptable to Alex and he was paid a large sum to keep quiet. What other reason is there why Alex left that way.

Nice seeing Nadia finding that sort of thing funny.”

It was a very inappropriate reaction wasn't it - but it wasn't her, so she didn't care. Interesting, because this was her 'friend' Perez who she's so loyal to totally humiliating himself and she was still grinning away.

I don't think we know the whole story of what happened with Alex, but the other HMs will know and i'm sure BB wouldn't have paid them all off to keep quiet, but they could have signed a confidentiality agreement within or in addition to their contracts perhaps.
sandy50
31-01-2015
Originally Posted by Sun Tzu.:
“Amazed some people are falling for Katie Hopkins act. It's so transparent too.”

ooo slipped that in there
Fudd
31-01-2015
Originally Posted by docman:
“I'm not blaming Katie for what Perez said, that's missing the point. I'm blaming Katie for what Katie has done, and that is lead a campaign of hatred and harassment against someone for two weeks. But she's getting a get out of jail free card because her victim is someone loud who people are irritated by.”

Perez was and is going around trying to deliberately wind up and upset different Housemates to the point where they snapped. He admitted as much to Keith when he asked him why he was behaving like this - he said he wanted to leave the House without breaking the rules. So he's happy to upset and hurt people, potentially harming their careers, for personal gain. But we knew that already.

Alexander walked because of his constant goading. I'd still argue Jeremy was ejected as much because of Perez's 'safety' comments as his actions in the bathroom. He's tried to get a rise out of both Cami Li and Katie Hopkins but yesterday was Calum's turn.

He knows exactly what he's doing and he's revelling in it. Trying to ignore him is the only way most people can deal with someone like him. Some may see it as isolation; I see it as self preservation and common sense.
yogacats
31-01-2015
Originally Posted by CaroUK:
“It still boils down to the fact that there is no sight or sound of Katie H anywhere on that video - just Perez and Calum having a rather nasty spat.

From the word go Perez has had it in for Katie, and is getting increasingly frustrated that whatever he does or says to her she rises above it.

Nadia apart, he isn't popular with the other housemates, and his antics aren't the way to go about winning allies. Now that he has lost the security blanket of his "friendship" with Nadia, I expect to see him becoming more and more isolated as she isn't there to defend him or to buffer his actions.”

It doesn't mean because KH isn't there in that exact 2 minutes or so, that she had nothing to do with anything, also, I'm sorry, but I 100% disagree with your statement "From the word go Perez has had it in for Katie". It's actually the other way round! What's more, Hopkins has tried to turn everyone else against Perez too (with varying degrees of success.)
sandy50
31-01-2015
Originally Posted by docman:
“I'm not blaming Katie for what Perez said, that's missing the point. I'm blaming Katie for what Katie has done, and that is lead a campaign of hatred and harassment against someone for two weeks. But she's getting a get out of jail free card because her victim is someone loud who people are irritated by.”

and during the course of the last two weeks what has Perez been doing ?
He's been in every HL Show playing up to the cameras and mostly enjoying himself. The fact that Katie Hopkins looks at him like Princess Anne with a mouthful of bees , it clearly hasn't affected him from exhibiting rather questionable behaviours on a daily basis, managing to drive just about everyone in that house to have an issue with him and all in the name of what he sees as...... 'entertainment' !
yogacats
31-01-2015
Originally Posted by sandy50:
“No no blinkers, i've posted about that already, in another thread, but she was only interested in implicating Katie H immediately after that VT was shown. And in that exchange between Perez and Calum you don't hear Katie H do you. She has nothing to do with either of them losing it. Perez is a 37 year old man for goodness sake ! And i'm sure we will see what happened that led to that incident.”

You are talking as if every incident is isolated. They have been in there how long now? Three weeks? Generally, in that time KH hasn't had a good word to say about anyone, she has been incredibly negative, facile, hypocritical and has on many occasions been instigator of arguments (and if not, she has butted herself in and made herself part on them, or just lit the blue touch paper then retreated with a smug look on her face.)

Perez has been at the brunt of Hopkins bullying and her turning people against him since the beginning. If I were him after 3 weeks of this I would be pig sick. Yet he's expected to behave exemplary when he's been made into the scapegoat. He is made to have to justify every minute thing he does or says (for some reason.)

You can't discount everything that goes before, there is the last 3 weeks behavior and nastiness towards him which he has had to put up with. Should he just FORGET about that? I certainly wouldn't. He's on edge, he's feeling got at, vulnerable, and in my opinion, Hopkins is at large to blame for that (plus she has manipulated her sheep brilliantly to the same end.)

So I repeat, just because Hopkins isn't physically there in a tiny few minutes of footage, it still doesn't mean she didn't INSTIGATE the trouble or at least be responsive for some of it, especially as Nadia seems to allude that she was responsible in some way.

Sheesh - it's so black and white on here.
yogacats
31-01-2015
Originally Posted by sandy50:
“After Nadia left he was sitting on the sofa next to Katie P and he had a plate on his face where he'd drawn eyes and a smiley face in toothpaste, so the guy's constantly scheming.”

Eh ... how does that follow????
Purple.
31-01-2015
Originally Posted by S_J1:
“That was Perez's choice to say them things, nobody elses, regardless who started the arguement. His choice, same as it was Calum's choice to come back. Nadia needs to stop blaming others for his actions. Also I am fed up of hearing Nadia say she was booed because of Perez, no, people actually disliked her for her, it's unfair she uses his name for her negative reaction. Some people actually like Perez and not her.”

Well said.
Angel-Lover
31-01-2015
well, KH was in the bedroom and the talking was going on a while before the tirade?? so I can't see how KH "made" Perez say that - as usual he was implying "several people" trying to stir up people to think others aren't happy or are talking behind their backs - NOW that is provocation- and childish tactics at that, if KH is provacating Perez to sjhow his true character(shaking the tree, as I like to call it)if she set that all up and then got out of it quick- she did a good job on that one
I see Nadia HAS to defend Perez, she went so far up his **** that she cant climb down and say OK he isn't as "nice" as I thought - she has to keep over stating how much nicer he is to justify her taking his side
yogacats
31-01-2015
Originally Posted by sandy50:
“and during the course of the last two weeks what has Perez been doing ?
He's been in every HL Show playing up to the cameras and mostly enjoying himself.”

Wow ... because no one ever goes into BB or CBB to do that do they?

LOL
Super Frog
31-01-2015
They should've let Calum hit him, then chucked both of them out.
MACTOWIN
31-01-2015
When the clip finished Nadia was laughing that says it all as far as I am concerned.
sandy50
31-01-2015
Originally Posted by yogacats:
“Wow ... because no one ever goes into BB or CBB to do that do they?

LOL”

If you read the thread......... I was responding to a post that said for past two weeks Perez has been goaded, so I replied that he hasn't been basically,he's been shown on HL shows enjoying himself mostly,and getting up to his usual antics.
WeeJintyMcGinty
31-01-2015
Originally Posted by BellaRosa:
“I cannot believe he has not been thrown out the house. The amount of vile stuff he has done against the other hm's is beyond belief.

I can only think he did something unacceptable to Alex and he was paid a large sum to keep quiet. What other reason is there why Alex left that way.

Nice seeing Nadia finding that sort of thing funny.”

Perez threatens Calum with 'anal rape' - general reaction: Perez should have been chucked out.

Alexander threatens Perez with 'anal rape' - general reaction: Perez should have been chucked out.
Purves Grundy
31-01-2015
Originally Posted by WeeJintyMcGinty:
“Perez threatens Calum with 'anal rape' - general reaction: Perez should have been chucked out.

Alexander threatens Perez with 'anal rape' - general reaction: Perez should have been chucked out.”

Just out of interest, did Alexander really say that? I know he called him a "gay ass f****t" or something similar, but I didn't think he went that far. If he did then that puts a whole different spin on matters.
slappers r us
31-01-2015
Originally Posted by Dave_62:
“Great television isn't he ”

I have to admit he is

but he should not be rewarded for his behaviour, a blind eye has been used far to long with him
WeeJintyMcGinty
31-01-2015
Originally Posted by Purves Grundy:
“Just out of interest, did Alexander really say that? I know he called him a "gay ass f****t" or something similar, but I didn't think he went that far. If he did then that puts a whole different spin on matters.”

Alexander held onto his cock whilst saying to Perez ..."I will get in your ass. I will get in your ass sonny. Get some son. You want some, son? Get some son".

As ever people seem to selectively choose when to be outraged. Alexander's 'threat' was barely even commented on at the time, yet a couple of weeks later Perez says something similar and there's indignant, mouthfoaming hysteria all over the shop.
Purves Grundy
31-01-2015
Originally Posted by WeeJintyMcGinty:
“Alexander held onto his cock whilst saying to Perez ..."I will get in your ass. I will get in your ass sonny. Get some son. You want some, son? Get some son".

As ever people seem to selectively choose when to be outraged. Alexander's 'threat' was barely even commented on at the time, yet a couple of weeks later Perez says something similar and there's indignant, mouthfoaming hysteria all over the shop. ”



That is really bad! I actually like Alexander but many people have been thrown out for less.
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