Preferably in High Security with Guards !!!
Did Katie say that she wants Perez isolated?
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[quote=funlovingirl;76744986]Would a person need to have experienced isolation themselves to know the effects it can have on an individual? I'm asking because I'm wondering if KH has experienced this at some point in her life, that she wants someone to experience it because she knows the effect it will have on the person.[/QUOTE]
Well if that were true then she is truly a psychopath, i.e. incapable of empathy. She has probably a knowledge of psychology and will know that to isolate someone from a group when they can't get away from the group in question is one of the cruellest acts you act inflict on anyone. This type of alienation is called ' anomie' or something . Can you imagine the heights she would rise to if she was allowed to give free rein to her behaviour in society. The SS would have nothing on her. She is truly an obnoxious creature and it's scary how people are so easy persuaded that 'she's a nice person really.'
Well if that were true then she is truly a psychopath, i.e. incapable of empathy. She has probably a knowledge of psychology and will know that to isolate someone from a group when they can't get away from the group in question is one of the cruellest acts you act inflict on anyone. This type of alienation is called ' anomie' or something . Can you imagine the heights she would rise to if she was allowed to give free rein to her behaviour in society. The SS would have nothing on her. She is truly an obnoxious creature and it's scary how people are so easy persuaded that 'she's a nice person really.'
Originally Posted by Ms Ann Thrope:
“She absolutely did, and if that's not bullying I don't know what is.”
“She absolutely did, and if that's not bullying I don't know what is.”
And this was a key reason that Nadia disliked Hopkins - she said Katie Hopkins makes people feel victimised. What does that say about Hopkins' current popularity with the crowd? A lot of bullies there? Perhaps some bigots too though!
Originally Posted by Angie_Plasty:
“No, she didn't say it...she demanded it, several times.
She also said anyone who didn't join in with her bullying campaign was an "enabler" and tried to guilt-trip them into isolating him.”
“No, she didn't say it...she demanded it, several times.
She also said anyone who didn't join in with her bullying campaign was an "enabler" and tried to guilt-trip them into isolating him.”
Very true that's exactly what happened !!!
Originally Posted by constantino_chr:
“The DS 'vile'-brigade strike again
I agree that people like Perez should be isolated, he goads people until they snap at him, enabling to play victim so he can feel loved.
And you're all falling for it.”
“The DS 'vile'-brigade strike again
I agree that people like Perez should be isolated, he goads people until they snap at him, enabling to play victim so he can feel loved.
And you're all falling for it.”
Goading? I suggest you read post #19.
Originally Posted by dog_eat_dog:
“"Isolate the bastard" were her actual words.”
“"Isolate the bastard" were her actual words.”
They were exactly what a bully does
Originally Posted by greenyone:
“They were exactly what a bully does”
“They were exactly what a bully does”
Yes saying such things as 'isolate the barstard' should be seen as threatening/pack mentality and constitute a warning. I don't know what's more sickening - that Hopkins is like this and has been chosen to enter the house or that she is currently the most popular one in there.
Very sorry state of affairs...dumbing down of BB big time!
Hopkins and Hilton kicked off then Katie told him that she intends to “persecute” him for the remainder of their time in the house.
Originally Posted by erin_p:
“Hopkins and Hilton kicked off then Katie told him that she intends to “persecute” him for the remainder of their time in the house.”
“Hopkins and Hilton kicked off then Katie told him that she intends to “persecute” him for the remainder of their time in the house.”
Yes I remember that...how does she get away with it??? AWFUL!
Originally Posted by amyawake:
“Yes I remember that...how does she get away with it??? AWFUL!”
“Yes I remember that...how does she get away with it??? AWFUL!”
People use the excuse "because it's Perez Hilton she is doing it too". I honestly don't see how that is a good excuse.
Originally Posted by Truth Teller:
“Agree. It was to stop Perez's behaviour at the times he was really acting up - dont feed him so he stops. It wasn't about isolating him for the whole show.”
“Agree. It was to stop Perez's behaviour at the times he was really acting up - dont feed him so he stops. It wasn't about isolating him for the whole show.”
Ooh, what's it like to be clairvoyant? I'd love to be able to read other people's minds like that
Originally Posted by Teddybear99:
“Because Nadia didn't say they should ignore him, she said they should ignore his more extreme behaviour. Which is pretty much what Nadia did and why she became good friends with him. Also on BOTS last night she said that she had the best conversations with Perez as they talked about places they had been etc., etc. We didn't see anything of that.”
“Because Nadia didn't say they should ignore him, she said they should ignore his more extreme behaviour. Which is pretty much what Nadia did and why she became good friends with him. Also on BOTS last night she said that she had the best conversations with Perez as they talked about places they had been etc., etc. We didn't see anything of that.”
Bearing in mind the irate responses from posters on this forum, I would love to know how FMs would fare at ignoring Perez' behaviour but remaining pally with him if they were in the house....
He needed to be put on the naughty step and have it made quite clear to him that he would be back there, with no attention from anyone, if he continued to behave as he had, That's not bullying.
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Originally Posted by funlovingirl:
“Would a person need to have experienced isolation themselves to know the effects it can have on an individual? I'm asking because I'm wondering if KH has experienced this at some point in her life, that she wants someone to experience it because she knows the effect it will have on the person.[/QUOTE]
Well if that were true then she is truly a psychopath, i.e. incapable of empathy. She has probably a knowledge of psychology and will know that to isolate someone from a group when they can't get away from the group in question is one of the cruellest acts you act inflict on anyone. This type of alienation is called ' anomie' or something . Can you imagine the heights she would rise to if she was allowed to give free rein to her behaviour in society. The SS would have nothing on her. She is truly an obnoxious creature and it's scary how people are so easy persuaded that 'she's a nice person really.'”
“Would a person need to have experienced isolation themselves to know the effects it can have on an individual? I'm asking because I'm wondering if KH has experienced this at some point in her life, that she wants someone to experience it because she knows the effect it will have on the person.[/QUOTE]
Well if that were true then she is truly a psychopath, i.e. incapable of empathy. She has probably a knowledge of psychology and will know that to isolate someone from a group when they can't get away from the group in question is one of the cruellest acts you act inflict on anyone. This type of alienation is called ' anomie' or something . Can you imagine the heights she would rise to if she was allowed to give free rein to her behaviour in society. The SS would have nothing on her. She is truly an obnoxious creature and it's scary how people are so easy persuaded that 'she's a nice person really.'”
It's quite possible that Katie has herself been subjected to isolation techniques as part of her military training, thus she understands their effectiveness.
To make comparisons between Katie and Nazi Germany is stretching credulity a little. I have yet to read accounts of her advocating that people should be subjected to the equivalent of military regimes or subjected to abuse. Dangerous ground, I should say...
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