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Tellymix- More Information on Perez/Callum row
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trevor tiger
31-01-2015
Originally Posted by slappers r us:
“Not quite the same

going to BB and saying Im frightened for my safty in the BB house and calling someone names and saying I hope to see him go are two different things

BB has to take notice of someone fearing for their safety (Perez's lawyers would act if they didnt)

BB dont have to take notice or act if another HM says they hope to see him go, he shouldnt be in there or he doesnt deserve to stay there”

Calum isn't going to say I fear for my safety though and that isn't because he is decent necessarily but because he'd be embarrassed to say it so he uses his own best method to try to get rid. Different words, same hoped for desire.
ABCZYX
31-01-2015
Originally Posted by Blondie X:
“So KH and Keith have a row in the bedroom. Keith leaves the bedroom and tells the others what she's said. Then in an unrelated conversation, Perez and Calum have a row about the lights being left on or turned off which ends up in Perez getting a warning and yet this is all Katies fault?

Am I missing something?”

My point is, if Katie hadn't had another go at Keith, then Callum and Perez wouldn't have had the argument they had and Perez wouldn't have said what he did. Perez was wrong for saying it and was quite rightly punished and should apologise, but what I'm saying is, it was caused by Katie yet again being unable to resist making a dig about someone. It's not Katie's fault that Perez made the comment, but it was STARTED by her.
cah
31-01-2015
Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“Yes it wasn't called 'final' in the video. We haven't seen any other formal warnings so either they made a mistake in the article or or we haven't be shown everything.”

Probably not shown everything ,and since when have BB shown H/Ms the actual footage of the incident rather than just read them a Transcript like the Article states Perez watching the footage and still claiming he needs pointing out which part was wrong and he can't see it
cah
31-01-2015
Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“Calum isn't going to say I fear for my safety though and that isn't because he is decent necessarily but because he'd be embarrassed to say it so he uses his own best method to try to get rid. Different words, same hoped for desire.”

Not really ,Callum saying i hope to see him go and he doesn't deserve to be here would've been talking about the impending Eviction that night in all likelyhood ,in that he hoped Perez is the one going that night
slappers r us
31-01-2015
Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“Calum isn't going to say I fear for my safety though and that isn't because he is decent necessarily but because he'd be embarrassed to say it so he uses his own best method to try to get rid. Different words, same hoped for desire.”

Maybe the same desire but it wont be the same results

I doubt that Callum has studied the rule book as much as Perez and hasnt got a raft of lawyers on standby

It all comes down to wording and how that wording lines up with the rule book and Perez knows exactly what wording to use to get what he wants
trevor tiger
31-01-2015
I thought the article was trying to link the 2 arguments but doing so badly. However I went to read the actual article and it actually looks different to the OP's http://tellymix.co.uk/reality-tv/big...-language.html

There is no linking of the 2 incidents (ETA other than mentioning that Nadia said Katie started it) and it is not described as a final warning.
Dexter Fan1
31-01-2015
Originally Posted by Flowes:
“Yep, there's a line in there that made me howl with laughter - I'm sure those that appreciate Perez's humour will too”

Yes, I'm one of them!
Flowes
31-01-2015
Originally Posted by Dexter Fan1:
“Yes, I'm one of them! ”

storminmike
31-01-2015
Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“Yes it wasn't called 'final' in the video. We haven't seen any other formal warnings so either they made a mistake in the article or or we haven't be shown everything.”

...the "lack of demand" once peddled as a reason for no live feed IMO was a smokescreen for storyline manipulation. Plenty has gone on which I doubt we'll ever find out unless someone spills the beans. Even that can't be assured of as Nadia is far from a reliable witness. I do wonder how "tellymix" get their transcripts or are they just extracts from show reels prior to transmission.

Regardless of which I smell another fix on Monday to save Perez a little longer before he's removed
ScreamingTree<3
31-01-2015
I don't think Nadia was lying, Katie started something that spilled over and then Perez finished it. Not hard to understand is it?
trevor tiger
31-01-2015
Originally Posted by slappers r us:
“Maybe the same desire but it wont be the same results

I doubt that Callum has studied the rule book as much as Perez and hasnt got a raft of lawyers on standby

It all comes down to wording and how that wording lines up with the rule book and Perez knows exactly what wording to use to get what he wants”

I don't agree with the premise of your argument. I believe Jeremy was thrown out because he exposed a woman's breast against her will and Ken because of the language he used and the complaints from many HMs. As for Alexander, he left of his own volition.
sheils1
31-01-2015
Originally Posted by Pete_Lashmar:
“So Nadia was speaking absolute bullshit when she said that KH started the row between Calum & Perez.

Typical.”

FFS go and read it again, she started the row with Keith, he went back into the kitchen to discuss it with the others then Callum had his say and started an argument with Perez.
MACTOWIN
31-01-2015
Originally Posted by ScreamingTree<3:
“I don't think Nadia was lying, Katie started something that spilled over and then Perez finished it. Not hard to understand is it?”

They were two completely arguments imo.
storminmike
31-01-2015
Originally Posted by ScreamingTree<3:
“I don't think Nadia was lying, Katie started something that spilled over and then Perez finished it. Not hard to understand is it?”

Tenuous at best

Chinese develop rockets......Nasa land a man on the moon

Nadia and Keith argue about Kav's level of intoxication>>>>Kieth goes to Kitchen and regales that Katie Hopkins is starting an argument based on a half heard private conversation>Calum tries to defuse the situation but Perez goes off on one about an unrelated where Calum switched off the bedroom lights>frustrated Calum suggests Perez is being a dick>Perez turns it dick placement argument
Blondie X
31-01-2015
Originally Posted by ScreamingTree<3:
“I don't think Nadia was lying, Katie started something that spilled over and then Perez finished it. Not hard to understand is it?”

Katie and Keith had a row in the bedroom. Keith left the room and went into the kitchen just before Calum and Perez kicked off. Katie was still in the bedroom. It was two completely unrelated rows that are being linked because if the timing. Not at all hard to understand really
Kelley18644
31-01-2015
Originally Posted by ABCZYX:
“My point is, if Katie hadn't had another go at Keith, then Callum and Perez wouldn't have had the argument they had and Perez wouldn't have said what he did. Perez was wrong for saying it and was quite rightly punished and should apologise, but what I'm saying is, it was caused by Katie yet again being unable to resist making a dig about someone. It's not Katie's fault that Perez made the comment, but it was STARTED by her.”

Go back further. Katie wouldn't have had a go at Keith if Keith and Nadia hadn't been talking about Kav and his drinking. dun dun dun. It's really Nadia's fault!

It's an unrelated argument with Perez and Calum's argument being unrelated to Keith and Katie's. Imagine you're in a bar and two people start fighting. Over in the corner, one random person decides to hit another. Are you going to fault the initial two people for the second fight? No.
storminmike
31-01-2015
Originally Posted by Blondie X:
“Katie and Keith had a row in the bedroom. Keith left the room and went into the kitchen just before Calum and Perez kicked off. Katie was still in the bedroom. It was two completely unrelated rows that are being linked because if the timing. Not at all hard to understand really”

Agreed....the only common denominator is actually KEITH
storminmike
31-01-2015
Originally Posted by Kelley18644:
“Go back further. Katie wouldn't have had a go at Keith if Keith and Nadia hadn't been talking about Kav and his drinking. dun dun dun. It's really Nadia's fault! ”

It's Kav's fault for drinking, or
It's BBs fault for giving Kav some alcopop
Blondie X
31-01-2015
Originally Posted by storminmike:
“Agreed....the only common denominator is actually KEITH”

So it's all bloody Cheggers fault

Throw him out BB, he's trouble
Skyrah
31-01-2015
Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“I thought the article was trying to link the 2 arguments but doing so badly. However I went to read the actual article and it actually looks different to the OP's http://tellymix.co.uk/reality-tv/big...-language.html

There is no linking of the 2 incidents (ETA other than mentioning that Nadia said Katie started it) and it is not described as a final warning.”

Mmmmmmmm .....

Maybe that is why OP didn't post a link

Quote:
“Perez Hilton has been given a formal warning on Celebrity Big Brother 2015 after a huge row in the house tonight (Friday).


Perez clashed with Calum Best in an argument over turning the lights off in the bedroom at night.

Perez was complaining about Calum turning the lights out ‘too early’ in the evening.

“I’m just trying to help people go to bed so don’t throw s**t at me,” Calum said.

“People didn’t want to go bed,” Perez claimed.

“Be the d**k,” snapped Calum before walking out of the room.

“I will do, I’ll be the huge d**k and I’ll shove it up your a**e,” responded Perez.

“What?” a FUMING Calum said as he returned to the room. “You do not speak to me like that.”

As the other housemates jumped in to physical split the pair and push a raging Calum away, Perez shouted at him: “I’ll shove my huge d**k up your a**e.”

Evicted housemate Nadia claimed that it was Katie Hopkins who started the row as Perez was ordered to the Diary Room.

There he was issued for a formal warning over his offensive language.

Big Brother warned: “If you repeat this behaviour again Big Brother may have no choice but to remove you from the house.”

“Fabulous!” quipped Perez sarcastically in response.

Perez was previously warned by Big Brother earlier in the week after licking and kissing Katie Hopkins.

In scenes not aired, he had also told Katie to “Suck my d**k”.”

Kelley18644
31-01-2015
Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“I thought the article was trying to link the 2 arguments but doing so badly. However I went to read the actual article and it actually looks different to the OP's http://tellymix.co.uk/reality-tv/big...-language.html

There is no linking of the 2 incidents (ETA other than mentioning that Nadia said Katie started it) and it is not described as a final warning.”

You have the wrong article from tellymix.

Originally Posted by Skyrah:
“Mmmmmmmm .....

Maybe that is why OP didn't post a link ”

The OP didn't do anything but copy the article. This is the link, it's taken directly from tellymix
http://tellymix.co.uk/reality-tv/big...est-fight.html
trevor tiger
31-01-2015
Originally Posted by Kelley18644:
“The OP didn't do anything but copy the article. This is the link, it's taken directly from tellymix
http://tellymix.co.uk/reality-tv/big...est-fight.html”

Now that is weird look at this link http://tellymix.co.uk/reality-tv/big...-language.html

They are different in several respects.
purplesky99
31-01-2015
Originally Posted by slappers r us:
“
Imagine if Callum had said the same to Perez, Perez would have been up in the DR shouting quicker than greased lightening”

As a Perez fan, I cannot disagree with your summation.
Kelley18644
31-01-2015
Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“Now that is weird look at this link http://tellymix.co.uk/reality-tv/big...-language.html

They are different in several respects.”

Nothing weird. Yours is a quick initial article (posted at 2:34), OP selected the follow up article with more details (posted at 15:13). It says "blow by blow account."
trevor tiger
31-01-2015
Originally Posted by Kelley18644:
“You have the wrong article from tellymix.



. . . .”

Yes but they talk about the same incident but with quite different features and headline One says 'Final formal warning' and the other says 'Warned (again)'
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