Tellymix- More Information on Perez/Callum row

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End-Em-All

31-01-2015

Originally Posted by Skyrah:
“Mmmmmmmm .....

Maybe that is why OP didn't post a link

Quote:
“Perez was previously warned by Big Brother earlier in the week after licking and kissing Katie Hopkins.

In scenes not aired, he had also told Katie to “Suck my d**k”.”
”

Didn't hear Nadia mentioning that.

trevor tiger

31-01-2015

Originally Posted by purplesky99:
“As a Perez fan, I cannot disagree with your summation.”

I'm a Perez fan and recognise him warts and all

However, in this instance and to be fair to him, didn't Callum do his own rant in the diary room which was equal on a par with Perez's for hyperbole.

Pete_Lashmar

31-01-2015

Originally Posted by sheils1:
“FFS go and read it again, she started the row with Keith, he went back into the kitchen to discuss it with the others then Callum had his say and started an argument with Perez.”

They were two completely different arguments, so maybe you should read a bit more.

Blondie X

31-01-2015

Originally Posted by ABCZYX:
“My point is, if Katie hadn't had another go at Keith, then Callum and Perez wouldn't have had the argument they had and Perez wouldn't have said what he did. Perez was wrong for saying it and was quite rightly punished and should apologise, but what I'm saying is, it was caused by Katie yet again being unable to resist making a dig about someone. It's not Katie's fault that Perez made the comment, but it was STARTED by her.”

So if Katie and Keith wouldn't have had an argument then Calum and Perez wouldn't have had a totally unrelated row in the kitchen?

Sorry, really not seeing how any if this is her fault

trevor tiger

31-01-2015

Originally Posted by Blondie X:
“So if Katie and Keith wouldn't have had an argument then Calum and Perez wouldn't have had a totally unrelated row in the kitchen? Sorry, really not seeing how any if this is her fault”

I think the link is that the argument came from Calum defending Katie H when Keith talked about what she'd said. Looking at the outcome and from the outside it seems tenuous to say Katie caused it however I can see how those involved might view it that way.

Pete_Lashmar

31-01-2015

Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“I think the link is that the argument came from Calum defending Katie H when Keith talked about what she'd said. Looking at the outcome and from the outside it seems tenuous to say Katie caused it however I can see how those involved might view it that way.”

But Calum & Perez were arguing about the bedroom lights, not what Katie & Keith were arguing about.

Blondie X

31-01-2015

At least in a few hours time we should be able to see for ourselves and make our own minds up - editing permitting

trevor tiger

31-01-2015

Originally Posted by Pete_Lashmar:
“But Calum & Perez were arguing about the bedroom lights, not what Katie & Keith were arguing about.”

I know but the exchange regarding the lights apparently started when / after Calum defended Katie. This is how Tellymix in the article linked on here describes it: 'Keith re-joins the conversation in the kitchen and explains that Katie Hopkins is starting an argument based on a half heard private conversation. Calum tries to defuse the situation but Perez gets angry, bringing up an incident last night where Calum switched off the bedroom lights'

Originally Posted by Blondie X:
“At least in a few hours time we should be able to see for ourselves and make our own minds up - editing permitting ”

Yup and no doubt it will be completely different again

too_much_coffee

31-01-2015

Originally Posted by Pete_Lashmar:
“So if 2 people are talking about someone and it snowballs into an argument it's the person who they were talking abouts fault?”

I'm going to use that one

Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“True he uses his own words “I’ve got no time for the guy. Shouldn’t be here. Causes problems, causes s**t… Selfish, obnoxious, game player, not in my circle of friends, man. F**k that. He’s a nasty piece of work, old Perez. A nasty piece of work and I hope to see him go… He doesn’t deserve to stay here…He’s a piece of f**king work, that guy. Absolute sh*t stirrer and a nasty person”

They are for the same effect though.”

That's some stretch of imagination to interpret what Calum said as that he felt threatened for his safety

Originally Posted by storminmike:
“It's Kav's fault for drinking, or
It's BBs fault for giving Kav some alcopop”

It's the alcopop company's fault for manufacturing the drink...

I know, let's blame it on a butterfly flapping it's wings in outer Patagonia - that's KNOWN to cause a disturbance in the northern hemisphere (even Perez can't argue with Einstein)

Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“I know but the exchange regarding the lights apparently started when / after Calum defended Katie. This is how Tellymix in the article linked on here describes it: 'Keith re-joins the conversation in the kitchen and explains that Katie Hopkins is starting an argument based on a half heard private conversation. Calum tries to defuse the situation but Perez gets angry, bringing up an incident last night where Calum switched off the bedroom lights'

Yup and no doubt it will be completely different again ”

So it was Perez' non suquitur that caused it all. If they'd all just carried on with Katie's argument then it wouldn't have happened.

trevor tiger

31-01-2015

Originally Posted by too_much_coffee:
“
That's some stretch of imagination to interpret what Calum said as that he felt threatened for his safety ”

No imagination needed as that isn't what I said.

Originally Posted by too_much_coffee:
“So it was Perez' non suquitur that caused it all. If they'd all just carried on with Katie's argument then it wouldn't have happened.”

It's getting kind of pedantic now

From my perspective as I've said they seem like 2 separate arguments but I suppose I can see how when you're involved you feel one only happened because of the other or one was just an extension of the other.

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