I've just read on a Madonna forum she is filming a video for Devil Pray. Anyone know if this is true? could she be planning to release different songs in different markets?

I don't think anything is confirmed beyond Ghosttown.

I know this album isn't going to do that well, at best MDNA style but it is a very good album and much better than her last two albums for sure.

What makes you think it won't do well?

Hey btw Diane_Rob, I had been looking for your new account

As long as she overtakes her own record with Elvis and creates chart history in the process I'm not bothered how much the album sells. This is a woman 35 years into an incredible career, a career no one expected to see last beyond her first album. Can anyone seriously see Katy, Rihanna or Gaga having the success Madonna is having now in 2045? Madonna is not her 20s anymore. A 56 year old woman is not going to appeal to teenage music buyers. People need to be realistic about their expectations.

What a pointless statement

I guess we'll all find out in 2045 - I wanna say highly likely too!!

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How is it pointless? you really think Katy and Gaga will be enjoying the success Madonna has had when they are 56? even Britney who was a bigger star than both of those is no where near her level of fame that she had just five years ago.

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They all have fans that are growing up with their music though!! Level of success/chart figures are irrelevant! They will still all be able to sell music.

Madonna can't get a top 20 hit anymore, Rihanna and Katy might not be able to in 2045 either, so to ask the question if someone is going to be on par with another artist after such a length of time is POINTLESS
So until you crack out a crystal ball and tell me a definitive answer to your post.....

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Well that hasn't worked Britney, Christina or even the likes of Mariah. Madonna is one off. Gaga's sales are already in major decline while Katy just like Britney will only be popular until the next big thing comes along.

The only artists out of the current bunch who will probably have a career as long as Madonna's are Beyoncé and Taylor Swift.

All Madonna's albums go to number 1 and everyone of her tours break records. You think Katy Perry can really do that in 30 years time when she can't even do it now? lol


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Katy, no. Rihanna, yes

And the only reason Madonnas tours break records is in revenue, not box office score because she's a greedy bitch who charges extortionate amounts of money for her tickets!!

Oh I see. You are one of those people! lol

Madonna breaks the records because people pay those prices to see her. You understand that? people PAY!

I think Katy might, but not the other two.

But yeah, i agree with your post!

You really see Katy Perry successful and still having hits in 30 years?????

Anyone going to the UK tour? what prices are the tickets normally £100 and up? I'm planning to go to the show at the Glasgow Hydro if I manage to get a ticket.

I've heard that too. Don't think it's confirmed though. I really don't want Devil Pray for a third single. I would like to see one of the fun "Rebel" songs released. If DP is the 3rd single that would mean all of the singles would be more serious heart songs. I understand that people object to the more immature songs and want her to be mature, but I like her fun songs and I think she should release one of those to show her other side. I think Iconic would make a great single.

People wrote Madonna off when she first broke on to the scene. They said she wouldn’t last and that she was a flash in the pan. I doubt anyone would have guessed she’d still be around 30 years later. If any fan base should give other performers the benefit of the doubt when it comes to their longevity, it's Madonna's.

I’m not a fan of Pink, Lady Gaga or Rihanna, but I wouldn’t be at all surprised if they were around in another 20 years’ time. Rihanna has been on the scene for ten years now and has just scored another huge worldwide hit. She doesn’t show any sign of slowing down. Pink is a touring force all around the world, and her albums continue to sell in decent quantities. Lady Gaga achieved her third US #1 album last year. Like her or not, Lady Gaga is vocally and musically talented. It was her performance at the Grammy Awards that people were talking about, not Madonna’s. Madonna needs the smoke and mirrors in order to put on an OK performance. Lady Gaga can put on a strong performance just sitting at the piano singing or singing while someone else plays the piano. She doesn’t need all the hoopla behind her. That will see her through. I doubt she will ever be as big as she was during The Fame, but Madonna has never been as popular as she was in the mid-80s.

Britney Spears’ career seems to be in a slump but don’t forget that Madonna’s career hasn’t been consistent. Her album sales took a huge dive in the early 1990s, and she spent a good portion of the decade trying to sell albums in the same quantities as Mariah Carey. Golden Globe win or not, I don't think anyone predicted Madonna to make a big comeback in 1998. Why don’t you give other artists a chance? Why do you have to be yet another cocky and obnoxious Madonna fan? You guys are the cancer of internet. You really are so desperate to show her worth that you invade every forum and every music board online. It’s sad. You’re as bad as those Little Monsters, and they're probably half the age you are.






And you're one of those delusions fans who can't face facts. Evkylemeatsix has a point. Here’s a post I thought was interesting:


Here is a picture of Madonna's show in Gothenburg:

http://postimg.org/image/ddywp01y9/



So all you care about is whether Madonna breaks another record or not? Right. Madonna isn’t always going to be active. There are other artists who will one day break a lot of the records that you fans hold on so tightly to. Rihanna has already surpassed Madonna’s tally of #1 singles on the Hot 100. She only has 12 more top 10 hits to go before she matches Madonna’s current tally. I wouldn’t be all surprised if she beats Madonna’s UK singles sales at some point over the next ten years. After all, she’s sold over ten million singles in as many years. It’s true that no one will have a career like Madonna, but that’s true of every artist. No one’s career is the same. However, you really need to stop putting so much importance on other people’s records and achievements.

Oh you have dared criticised Madonna, you will be accused of being another forum member with a different name...because those that criticise her, must be one in the same person....apparently a few members in the appreciation forum believe it to be the case

Because its always the same in these Madonna threads. One guy has had 40 odd accounts banned for posing essay long posts about how Madonna is terrible and her fans are delusional and that Kylie, Prince and Gaga are all much better etc. I could bring up all the posts and usernames if you want to see for yourself. So if people can see it happening again its only because of that and it does appear to be taking place right now.

Looks like you didnt read LivingForLove's post. He quite clearly pointed out the reason Madonna breaks the records for her tours is because people payed for tickets - that is gross. You did know that right?

He never mentioned anything about how many were in attendance. The post was quite clearly about the gross which is what tours are measured on, nothing less. If Madonna makes more because of her prices its exactly as he said, because people are willing to pay a high price to see her.

Maybe say sorry for calling him delusional now...he was right after all.

Surprised and disappointed at the number of people suggesting they don't think Katy Perry will continue to have a successful career. I think her career will mirror Madonnas more than any of the other current crop of popstars. I think she's one of the few popstars with a genuine chance of having a long career. Plus she is likeable and relatable, something which is so important these days. Gaga discovered that a bit too late!

As for Pink, she isn't going anywhere either - she's already into her 15th year.

Agree with you. Katy has something Gaga doesn't have and that's the ability to relate to an actual audience. Gaga can sing but so can a lot of people. Doesn't mean they are going to have long and successful singing careers. To last you need far more than just a decent voice. People have to like you and not many people like Gaga anymore. People just don't know who or what she is supposed to be. She could afford dips like this had she already been around for a long period but she is still at the beginnings of her career. I think the mainstream success she had is long gone.

Britney might not even be at the same level of fame she was 10 years ago but she will still outlast all of this current crop. Britney was always the real successor to Madonna. Even Madonna fans acknowledge that.

Remember back in the day when artists would sometimes release a double-A side single (two songs from the album on one CD)?

Do you think Madonna would benefit from doing this? Maybe one 'rebel' song & one 'heart' song on a few of the single releases going forward. We know that Ghosttown is the next single so my suggestions would be:-

Single #1:- Living For Love (first single already released)
Single #2:-Ghosttown/Unapologetic B*tch
Single #3: Joan of Arc/Illuminati
Single #4:- Rebel Heart

There is enough material on the album (Deluxe & Super Deluxe versions) to do this & it might help to get her more airplay & maybe more album sales when people realise what great songs are on this album. I haven't heard all of the songs yet - only the nine she has made available so there may be others on the album that would be better suited as singles.

I think it's fair to say that because of Madonna's success, it inspired other women to work hard to become successful. It is also fair to say that over time, the height of their popularity will be long gone, but their fanbase will remain loyal. It is also fair to say that in this age of instant music where people can download their favourite artist's songs in a second that over time, these female artists will overtake Madonna's record. They are 20 years younger than Madonna at least so they have more time to sell their music.

But, it is also fair to say that Madonna deserves her crown for totally changing the way women in music are perceived. Fewer female artists are controlled nowadays, instead making independent decisions and choosing their managers independently. Like Elvis Presley, who we can be thankful for because without him rock and pop would not have evolved, Madonna made the world so much easier for women, for gay people and other female artists. She hasn't always got things right, she hasn't always made excellent records, but she has always been a formidable presence, one which is second to none to any other female singer. Whatever happens in the future, Madonna is currently the most successful female artist of all time and is also the richest music star in the world, overtaking Paul McCartney.