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It's official, she is playing at the brits
Apart from her graham norton slot (which had zero to do with MDNA and was about W/E), this is the promo she needs to remind her and us that her british fans are perhaps her most loyal. We were there for her when the US turned their back on her. |
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Really Hope Ghosttown doesn't get forgotten in amongst all the buzz about the new tracks and features. It remains the best and most commercial song on the album for me and absolutely should be the 2nd single.
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Agree about Iconic. Do you think its going to be the second single?
This is my favourite album of Madonna's since Confessions On A Dancefloor. It has elements of Erotica about it. I'm also pleased she dropped Aviici. He is a great producer but out of date now. If she had worked with him five years ago they could have made magic. The tracks on the extra disc are clearly there because they're the weakest set. They're not bad by a long shot, but I prefer the demo of Beautiful Scars and Queen is a track that will need to be heard again before I pass judgement. Borrowed Time has been toned down and works well enough but Graffitti heart is a pulsating dance track. Autotune Baby is a bit hit and miss but catchy enough and Addicted is virtually the same as the demo but with refinements. This album is likely to get good reviews and you can tell 100% that Madonna's heart was in it this time. I haven't felt her input since CoaDF because with Hard Candy and MDNA, you got the feeling others were pushing her buttons. With "Rebel Heart" you actually sense that she wanted to get out of bed and go to to work. It's Madonna at her best. This is definetely one of her best albums. Hallelujah for that! |
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It's official, she is playing at the brits
Apart from her graham norton slot (which had zero to do with MDNA and was about W/E), this is the promo she needs to remind her and us that her british fans are perhaps her most loyal. We were there for her when the US turned their back on her.
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This album is likely to get good reviews and you can tell 100% that Madonna's heart was in it this time. I haven't felt her input since CoaDF because with Hard Candy and MDNA, you got the feeling others were pushing her buttons. With "Rebel Heart" you actually sense that she wanted to get out of bed and go to to work. It's Madonna at her best. This is definetely one of her best albums. Hallelujah for that!
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I've heard the final album in full and I'm gutted... Everyone has a different opinion about her music, but I feel that this album isn't very good at all, I think there are so many weak and forgetable tracks on the album. Her voice isn't even clear in a lot of the songs, and on others she is using to much auto tune and effects on her voice. There's so many songs on the album that are nowhere near as good as the demo versions, the most notable is Rebel Heart, that song has been butchered. The demo with avicii sounded so much better, Beutiful Scars isn't as good as the demo either, infact I got bored halfway through the final version. The songs with the rappers on are just terrible and the Sex song is cringeworthy. The Autotune Baby song is irrating.
Overall she could have done so much better and the demos prove it, and the fact that the demos are better than the final versions is quite bad. The only standout track for me is Ghosttown. I'd rank this album as one of my least favourites. It is definitely no Like A Prayer, Ray Of Light or Confessions on a Dancefloor 3/10 |
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Ooh it's leaked
All 25 songs Only just found out. That's what you get when you don't read the previous posts Where can you pre order the super deluxe edition? |
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I've heard the final album in full and I'm gutted... Everyone has a different opinion about her music, but I feel that this album isn't very good at all, I think there are so many weak and forgetable tracks on the album. Her voice isn't even clear in a lot of the songs, and on others she is using to much auto tune and effects on her voice. There's so many songs on the album that are nowhere near as good as the demo versions, the most notable is Rebel Heart, that song has been butchered. The demo with avicii sounded so much better, Beutiful Scars isn't as good as the demo either, infact I got bored halfway through the final version. The songs with the rappers on are just terrible and the Sex song is cringeworthy. The Autotune Baby song is irrating.
Overall she could have done so much better and the demos prove it, and the fact that the demos are better than the final versions is quite bad. The only standout track for me is Ghosttown. I'd rank this album as one of my least favourites. It is definitely no Like A Prayer, Ray Of Light or Confessions on a Dancefloor 3/10 7: Hold Tight (3/5) Not a bad track. Great beat and great melody. 8: Joan of Arc (5/5) I love the combination of slow verse, quicker chorus. 9. Iconic (5/5) Wow! just Wow! 10. HeartBreakCity (3/5) Needs to be longer. It ends too abrubtly. 11. Body Shop (2/5) It's a good song, but one of the four weakest ones. 12. Holy Water (3/5) The demo version is a long distant memory. This is cleaner and slicker. 13. Inside Out (5/5) I love this track. It is mesmersing. 14. Wash All Over Me (5/5) this track sends shivers up my spine. It is Ghostown Part 2! 15. Best Night (3/5) It's OK. Good production but quite forgettable. 16. Veni Vedi Vici (3/5) It's not her best, but the lyrics are really good. 17. SEX (2/5) Another one of the four weakest tracks, but it isn't as bad as many are saying. After all, it's just a bit of fun. 18. Messiah (5/5) Say no more. Truly gorgeous. 19. Rebel Heart (3/5) A great melody, and I like the simplistic approach. 20. Beautiful Scars (2/5) The albums fourth weakest track. The demo was better. 21. Queen (3/5) A strange ballad that has Madonna showing off great vocals but the song doesn't go anywhere. 22. Borrowed Time (3/5) A track I will skip. Not my favourite but not a bad song in reality. 23. Grafitti Heart (5/5) Great pulsating dance track with a hint of folk! Great stuff. 24. Autotune Baby (4/5) On several hearings, I love this track. Great catchy melody and good fun! 25. Addicted. (4/5) Overall, largely unchanged from demo. A good song with a bit of angst! Overall: 4/5. A great return to form for the Queen of Pop! |
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I was just hoping for a really good album like Confessions on a Dancefloor. I mean I've just been listening to some of the songs off that album like Sorry and then you compare it to songs off her new album like Sex and Iconic and they just don't even come close to how good her older songs are. I am really surprised that people are liking that Iconic wit the rapper and Mike Tyson because i just think it's such a weak song. She really needs to ditch all these rappers and featuring artists. She's trying to hard to be hip and in with the younger crowd and it's just embarrassing. She didn't need featuring artists or rappers on her last amazing album Confessions, so why does she need them now. And does anyone else think it's really hard to understand what she's saying in some of the songs?
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I was just hoping for a really good album like Confessions on a Dancefloor. I mean I've just been listening to some of the songs off that album like Sorry and then you compare it to songs off her new album like Sex and Iconic and they just don't even come close to how good her older songs are. I am really surprised that people are liking that Iconic wit the rapper and Mike Tyson because i just think it's such a weak song. She really needs to ditch all these rappers and featuring artists. She's trying to hard to be hip and in with the younger crowd and it's just embarrassing. She didn't need featuring artists or rappers on her last amazing album Confessions, so why does she need them now. And does anyone else think it's really hard to understand what she's saying in some of the songs?
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At the end of the day you can't please everyone. I'm sure if she has kept the Aviici sounds she will get criticised so you can't win. I totally get Iconic. Before I heard the finished product I thought the Mike Tyson thing is a bit random but now I totally get it.
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Madonna has always had a love for hip hop. Remember the rap track on Erotica? I get that some of her older fans may not be into hip hop and rappers but it's a new thing with her or her trying to be young and hip. She genuinely enjoys it. I'm not the biggest rap fan but I really like the NAS rap on Veni Vidi Vici.
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Madonna has always had a love for hip hop. Remember the rap track on Erotica? I get that some of her older fans may not be into hip hop and rappers but it's a new thing with her or her trying to be young and hip. She genuinely enjoys it. I'm not the biggest rap fan but I really like the NAS rap on Veni Vidi Vici.
Incidentally, regarding collaborations, there have been some on many of her albums since 1989. Prince on Like A Prayer, Mandy Pantikin and Warren Beatty on I'm Breathless, the rap you mentioned on Erotica (Did You Do It - which had very minimal Madonna vocals), there was a rapper on I'd Rather Be Your Lover on Bedtime Stories too. It was just Ray of Light, Music and American Life that didn't have any collaborations because Confessions did feature the Jewish man singing in Isaac. I think it's fine because Madonna respects other musicians and genuinely enjoys working with them. You never hear her slag off other artists, even if others slag her off. When Elton John was being bitchy about her and accused her of lip synching throughout her concert, she sent him a box of chocolates! |
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I would say this album is much more mature than HC and MDNA. I'm not sure how anyone could listen to it and feel she is chasing a young audience or trying to be hip. She did a great job of being a little more mature, but not too mature as to make it boring and not sound like her. She has to retain a certain electronic edge to her music to make it Madonna.
Nothing will ever touch Ray of Light and Like A Prayer for me as her all time best albums, but I like this much more than Confessions. There is much more variety than on Confessions which didn't really have any ballads. This album has some beautiful ballads. I really love the reworked Wash All Over Me. The album is more midtempo and has more guitar than Confessions does. I enjoy Confessions but it was more of a purely club album, the closest she got to sounding like Kylie. I guess some people like that, but I like more variety and less stereotypical club music. It has a club electronic aspect but it also incorporates other flavours which is the essence of Madonna's style. I think Hold Tight should be the second single. |
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IMO Wash all Over Me and Rebel Heart in their demo form were guaranteed smash hits, and the best Madonna songs I've heard for years. The removal of the 'rebel heaeaaart' hook was a mistake, and these songs now seem like only 'good album tracks'. Such a shame.
I also don't think Madonna can do 'silly songs' very effectively, and there are a bunch on here that shouldn't even have made it as Japanese bonus tracks. Perhaps this is one of those albums where you can make your own playlist of songs that you connect with, and still have a 10-15 track album! Then you can rediscover the 'leftovers' later on. On the other hand, after the dust settles and the inevitable "best album since....." gun jumping has ended, this may turn out to be the 'quantity not quality' album. |
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What can you pre order the super deluxe edition? I am rather confused regarding that.
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What can you pre order the super deluxe edition? I am rather confused regarding that.
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I can so see Iconic being the tour opener! It has to be.
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I was just hoping for a really good album like Confessions on a Dancefloor. I mean I've just been listening to some of the songs off that album like Sorry and then you compare it to songs off her new album like Sex and Iconic and they just don't even come close to how good her older songs are. I am really surprised that people are liking that Iconic wit the rapper and Mike Tyson because i just think it's such a weak song. She really needs to ditch all these rappers and featuring artists. She's trying to hard to be hip and in with the younger crowd and it's just embarrassing. She didn't need featuring artists or rappers on her last amazing album Confessions, so why does she need them now. And does anyone else think it's really hard to understand what she's saying in some of the songs?
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I don't think its up for pre order yet. I read there was a 50 page 'Revelution' photo book with it so maybe that's causing the delay.
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IMO Wash all Over Me and Rebel Heart in their demo form were guaranteed smash hits, and the best Madonna songs I've heard for years. The removal of the 'rebel heaeaaart' hook was a mistake, and these songs now seem like only 'good album tracks'. Such a shame.
I also don't think Madonna can do 'silly songs' very effectively, and there are a bunch on here that shouldn't even have made it as Japanese bonus tracks. Perhaps this is one of those albums where you can make your own playlist of songs that you connect with, and still have a 10-15 track album! Then you can rediscover the 'leftovers' later on. On the other hand, after the dust settles and the inevitable "best album since....." gun jumping has ended, this may turn out to be the 'quantity not quality' album. |
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I think this "leaking" may be marketing on Madonna's part....The album release will be brought forward to the Brits I reckon.
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It's an exhausting and rather soulless experience.
It's sad to see Madonna releasing such a messy yet predictable album - for the 3rd time in a row. She needs to get back to basics, a simple glorious 10 to 12 track pop album - stop the effects, the guests, the raps, the aren't I edgy lyrics and unclutter the production. |
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I can so see Iconic being the tour opener! It has to be.
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