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Madonna - Rebel Heart
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wizzywick
12-02-2015
Originally Posted by Petrolicious:
“The thing is, getting a no 1 is symbolic of success and a "hit". No matter what the sales are , it still has that cache.

I do think L4L has a chance in the UK, where it has pretty much failed in the US, save some sort of miracle. For several reasons. One, it was never released as part of the original tracks for the pre release, The Brits performance and the single release coincide nicely and several radio stations have actually began to embrace Madonna again when she was abandoned for MDNA. Capital have A listed L4L, Radio 2 now have it on their playlist and a few others like heart.fm. Radio 1 refuse to come on board because of AGE.

So I do think L4L has a chance at top 5...if not no 1..we shall see.

Now if we were talking about Ghosttown, then I could see that storming the charts. I have yet to find anyone that does not like that song.”

How will changes to the UK Album Chart affect Madonna's chances of a UK number 1 album? The changes commence on March 1st.

http://www.officialcharts.com/chart-...rst-time-3479/
Petrolicious
12-02-2015
Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“How will changes to the UK Album Chart affect Madonna's chances of a UK number 1 album? The changes commence on March 1st.

http://www.officialcharts.com/chart-...rst-time-3479/”

I'm not sure. But I'd be astonished of the album didn't hit no 1. Given the success of the pre release and the songs that have been slowly released. She is currently no 1 in world iTunes because of the new 3 track release. All this counts towards album sales.

And don't forget, we aren't even factoring in CD sales. Unless someone like Rhianna drops her new album the same week, it's pretty much a dead cert that Madonna will get no 1 with the album....
wizzywick
12-02-2015
So, here are the confirmed album covers, complete with Stickers. What is interesting is the fact that on the LP version there will be NO credits and you need to log onto madonna.com to see them. So, yet again, it looks like the credits are going to be squeezed into unreadable blocks at the end of the CD booklet with NO lyrics.

http://news.madonnatribe.com/en/2015...lbum-stickers/
Living4Love
12-02-2015
The colour version is nice but doesn't seem to reflect the album at all. The cover for the 19 track deluxe version is the best.
wizzywick
12-02-2015
Originally Posted by Living4Love:
“The colour version is nice but doesn't seem to reflect the album at all. The cover for the 19 track deluxe version is the best.”

The 19 track "rope" picture is superb. They should have just had different colour versions of that.
Living4Love
12-02-2015
Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“The 19 track "rope" picture is superb. They should have just had different colour versions of that.”

Yeah it would have made sense to maybe use a bonze version of that for the standard and then a full colour version of it for the super deluxe.
wizzywick
12-02-2015
Originally Posted by Living4Love:
“Yeah it would have made sense to maybe use a bonze version of that for the standard and then a full colour version of it for the super deluxe.”

The rope design loses its potency because it no longer has any singular relevance. To come up with such a distinct concept only to minimalise it is baffling. It is hard to determine what the official era's image is.
Quixotic
12-02-2015
Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“i often despair at how Madonna is, seemingly, deliberately ignored at awards ceremonies. I agree with you. It does deserve high recognition.”

I don't understand how Madonna fans can be dismissive of the Grammy Awards when she's hardly short of nominations and wins. Madonna has won seven awards from 28 nominations. So she hasn't won in any of the four big categories (Best New Artist, Album, Song and Record of the Year), boo hoo! Some of the most influential and legendary bands and singers have never been nominated once in careers that are longer than Madonna’s. I know the Grammy’s are a joke, but they were right not to nominate MDNA for anything.

She’s also not short of recognition at the Golden Globe Awards. She's won two awards from seven nominations. I guess some of her fans are still annoyed that some of the nominations that were eligible for Oscar consideration never actually made it that far.

Originally Posted by little-monster:
“That's because the grammys have their heads too far up Beyonce's ass to honor any other female.”

The majority of Beyoncé’s Grammy nominations and wins have been in the R&B categories. I doubt that’s affected Madonna’s chances at being nominated and/or winning. Same goes for other pop singers.
Whitehouse95
12-02-2015
Originally Posted by Living4Love:
“I want her to go top 10, even top 5 because it will then mean she has had a top 10/top 5 hit in every decade since the 80s. I think Madonna needs that for her status and I'm sure Living For Love will manage it.

Number 1 would be nice but I'm not to sure that can happen unless the Brits performance really makes people rush out to buy the song.”

If last year's Dutch Eurovision entry can crack the UK top 10 from people just watching Eurovision then I'm sure Madonna can do the same with a Brit Awards performance and a decent song.
babelogue
14-02-2015
I absolutely LOVE Iconic! One of the best of the new songs. I didn't get it at all at first, and thought it was just dirge, but a few listens later and I'm hooked! I can imagine it will be amazing performed in concert.

Living for Love
Ghosttown
Unapologetic Bitch
Iconic

All amazing tunes. Jury's out on the rest still though...
jadebutterfly96
14-02-2015
She has a chance to chart well in the UK as LFL was not part of the pre-order download songs. Unlike in the US, I think the whole campaign went haywire. The only chance is for radio airplay to pick up. At least it's playlisted on Z100 (which is the most influential radio station in the US) and Ryan Seacrest seems to play it a bit.
Gail force
14-02-2015
Originally Posted by Petrolicious:
“I'm not sure. But I'd be astonished of the album didn't hit no 1. Given the success of the pre release and the songs that have been slowly released. She is currently no 1 in world iTunes because of the new 3 track release. All this counts towards album sales.

And don't forget, we aren't even factoring in CD sales. Unless someone like Rhianna drops her new album the same week, it's pretty much a dead cert that Madonna will get no 1 with the album....”

That cant be right. Kylie's fans have been telling us that she is finished and nowhere near as popular as Kylie minogue.
VoodooChic
14-02-2015
Originally Posted by Gail force:
“That cant be right. Kylie's fans have been telling us that she is finished and nowhere near as popular as Kylie minogue.”

I'm one of the odd creatures that adore both. I couldn't care less about all this Vs bollocks....
wizzywick
14-02-2015
Madonna to be appear on The Jonathan Ross Show. I'm surprised she didn't go on Norton's show as she has said she felt comfortable with him. Mind you, this will be the first time in ages that Ross will have had a really big star on his show.
little-monster
14-02-2015
Originally Posted by Quixotic:
“I don't understand how Madonna fans can be dismissive of the Grammy Awards when she's hardly short of nominations and wins. Madonna has won seven awards from 28 nominations. So she hasn't won in any of the four big categories (Best New Artist, Album, Song and Record of the Year), boo hoo! Some of the most influential and legendary bands and singers have never been nominated once in careers that are longer than Madonna’s. I know the Grammy’s are a joke, but they were right not to nominate MDNA for anything.

She’s also not short of recognition at the Golden Globe Awards. She's won two awards from seven nominations. I guess some of her fans are still annoyed that some of the nominations that were eligible for Oscar consideration never actually made it that far.



The majority of Beyoncé’s Grammy nominations and wins have been in the R&B categories. I doubt that’s affected Madonna’s chances at being nominated and/or winning. Same goes for other pop singers.”

I don't think anyone was or at least i wasn't being dismissive, and true Beyonce's wins were in a totally different genre. I just feel there is favortism and a slight lack of recogition regardless of past wins for Madonna and other artists.
Living4Love
14-02-2015
Originally Posted by VoodooChic:
“I'm one of the odd creatures that adore both. I couldn't care less about all this Vs bollocks....”

Me neither but I've noticed it always seems to come more from the Kylie fans than it does from Madonna fans. I notice they have been very quiet since Rebel Heart got very positive early reviews but no doubt they will be all out in force should the album not sell as well as hoped.

I love Madonna and Kylie and I don't see why there has to be a war between both. They are totally different artists anyway.
Living4Love
14-02-2015
Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“Madonna to be appear on The Jonathan Ross Show. I'm surprised she didn't go on Norton's show as she has said she felt comfortable with him. Mind you, this will be the first time in ages that Ross will have had a really big star on his show.”

She always likes to shake it up so it was probably Ross's turn again as he hasn't interviewed her since 2003.

I'm so pleased we are getting so much promo. Is Madonna the only guest on the show or will others be there? if its only her then chances are she will perform a few songs
wizzywick
14-02-2015
Originally Posted by Living4Love:
“She always likes to shake it up so it was probably Ross's turn again as he hasn't interviewed her since 2003.

I'm so pleased we are getting so much promo. Is Madonna the only guest on the show or will others be there? if its only her then chances are she will perform a few songs ”

I think it is only her. He said (according to drownedmadonna) that he is "preparing for his very special guest Madonna.........and she'll probably insist I go back to her bedroom like last time!"
Gigi4
14-02-2015
Originally Posted by Quixotic:
“I don't understand how Madonna fans can be dismissive of the Grammy Awards when she's hardly short of nominations and wins. Madonna has won seven awards from 28 nominations. So she hasn't won in any of the four big categories (Best New Artist, Album, Song and Record of the Year), boo hoo! Some of the most influential and legendary bands and singers have never been nominated once in careers that are longer than Madonna’s. I know the Grammy’s are a joke, but they were right not to nominate MDNA for anything.

She’s also not short of recognition at the Golden Globe Awards. She's won two awards from seven nominations. I guess some of her fans are still annoyed that some of the nominations that were eligible for Oscar consideration never actually made it that far. ”

Most of Madonna Grammy wins have been for long form video for the DVD of her tours, not her actual recordings. (She has also won in the dance/electronic category. The rules for that have now been changed to avoid pop singers like Madonna winning so most likely she won't be winning in those categories again.) I think fans find that odd given her success as a recording artist. I think you answered your own question when you said she hasn't won in any of the major categories. Not only has she not won but the only time she was even nominated in the major categories was with Ray of Light and Music. I don't know how they could not nominate LIke A Prayer! I find that odd given her high level of success and critical acclaim from music journalists.
Fanntastik
14-02-2015
Originally Posted by Gail force:
“That cant be right. Kylie's fans have been telling us that she is finished and nowhere near as popular as Kylie minogue.”

Don't make things up.
Fanntastik
14-02-2015
Originally Posted by Living4Love:
“Me neither but I've noticed it always seems to come more from the Kylie fans than it does from Madonna fans. I notice they have been very quiet since Rebel Heart got very positive early reviews but no doubt they will be all out in force should the album not sell as well as hoped.

I love Madonna and Kylie and I don't see why there has to be a war between both. They are totally different artists anyway.”

No it's pretty mutual. Kiss Me Once flopping seemed to get Madonna fans more excited than Madonna's actual music has so far.

But all "stan" wars are silly anyways.
Living4Love
14-02-2015
Originally Posted by Fanntastik:
“No it's pretty mutual. Kiss Me Once flopping seemed to get Madonna fans more excited than Madonna's actual music has so far.

But all "stan" wars are silly anyways. ”

Well tbh that gloating was probably down to the fact some Madonna fans wanted to give out a dose of karma for all the flop MDNA comments we got!

Two wrongs don't make a right but that's stan wars for you!
Living4Love
01-03-2015
Ghosttown is single two.

I hope Hold Tight and Joan Of Arc gets released.

I can't help but feel Ghosttown should have been a promo single, with a video, and Joan Of Arc the official second single.
little-monster
01-03-2015
The problem with MDNA was it's single choices. While i liked it, Gimme all your luving didn't work as a single and I believe that was one factor why the album sold as little as it did.

I hope her and her label get it right with Rebel Heart. I think they have with Living for love.
Living4Love
03-03-2015
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-xbmSHlY_u3...t%2BDesign.png

Anyone think that should have been the super deluxe cover?!
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