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Old 01-02-2015, 00:41
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He's a bit of an idiot and made a few mistakes in the beginning basically by just annoying everyone in a NON aggressive way but now he finds himself the easy target, the hate figure.

Hopkins gets off scot free despite hating most of 'her' great British public and constantly throwing disgusting abuse at all the HM's the worst of it BEHIND their backs.

I don't understand. Meanwhile The Leader Of The Gays has her head so far stuck up Hopkins arse she just leaves Perez to fend for himself. Maybe with half an eye on winning a victory for the gay community she saw how Nadia befriending him led to her coming out of the house to boos and so she just mugged him off. She is SUCH a fraud.

Totally abhorrent situation occurring in that house that should be an affront to any decent human being. What have we become?
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Old 01-02-2015, 00:46
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Cause and effect. Perez has brought all this on himself and has no one else to blame for people not wanting anything to do with him.

We're not shown everything that goes on and in his case it's probably just as well.
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Old 01-02-2015, 00:46
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He's a bit of an idiot and made a few mistakes in the beginning basically by just annoying everyone in a NON aggressive way but now he finds himself the easy target, the hate figure.

Hopkins gets off scot free despite hating most of 'her' great British public and constantly throwing disgusting abuse at all the HM's the worst of it BEHIND their backs.

I don't understand. Meanwhile The Leader Of The Gays has her head so far stuck up Hopkins arse she just leaves Perez to fend for himself. Maybe with half an eye on winning a victory for the gay community she saw how Nadia befriending him led to her coming out of the house to boos and so she just mugged him off. She is SUCH a fraud.

Totally abhorrent situation occurring in that house that should be an affront to any decent human being. What have we become?
I don't think that his (or anyone else's) sexuality is relevant to the discussion in this instance. I personally don't care what gender he wishes to have sexual relations with - I just find his behaviour juvenile, annoying and calculating.
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Old 01-02-2015, 00:47
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He's a bit of an idiot and made a few mistakes in the beginning basically by just annoying everyone in a NON aggressive way but now he finds himself the easy target, the hate figure.

Hopkins gets off scot free despite hating most of 'her' great British public and constantly throwing disgusting abuse at all the HM's the worst of it BEHIND their backs.

I don't understand. Meanwhile The Leader Of The Gays has her head so far stuck up Hopkins arse she just leaves Perez to fend for himself. Maybe with half an eye on winning a victory for the gay community she saw how Nadia befriending him led to her coming out of the house to boos and so she just mugged him off. She is SUCH a fraud.

Totally abhorrent situation occurring in that house that should be an affront to any decent human being. What have we become?
Nothing to to with him being gay his just a idiot . You have him in your house see how long you let him stay
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Old 01-02-2015, 00:49
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Yes, he is not being isolated because he is the only gay in the village... Also it is not the whole house, i.e. Pricey still chats with him, as does Keith.

That said, it is clear that many here do not approve of him being isolated i.e. deliberately so by Hopkins and her gang - she has said "isolate the barstard". That may well be her downfall. The public can be fickle...
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Old 01-02-2015, 00:49
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Let's just suppose that Perez 's sexuality wasn't known or declared.

At the core he just comes across as a self-absorbed, annoying individual.
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Old 01-02-2015, 00:50
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I don't think that his (or anyone else's) sexuality is relevant to the discussion in this instance. I personally don't care what gender he wishes to have sexual relations with - I just find his behaviour juvenile, annoying and calculating.
His behaviour is certainly all those things apart from calculating. He just goes with the flow (and usually makes the wrong decisions which I find hilarious). But he is NOT vicious, abusive and openly hateful like Hopkins. She is a disgrace to humanity but people choose to hate Perez because he is 'annoying'. Really?
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Old 01-02-2015, 00:51
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I don't understand what relevance his sexuality has, he'd be just as awful whether he's gay, straight, celibate, into goats or balloons or whatever.

Katie Hopkins doesn't get off 'scot free', either inside or outside the house, there's plenty of criticism of her (rightly so) both inside and outside.

Why should Michelle defend someone just because of their sexuality? Should she turn a blind eye to terrible behaviour if he meets other criteria?
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Old 01-02-2015, 00:52
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He's a bit of an idiot and made a few mistakes in the beginning basically by just annoying everyone in a NON aggressive way but now he finds himself the easy target, the hate figure.

Hopkins gets off scot free despite hating most of 'her' great British public and constantly throwing disgusting abuse at all the HM's the worst of it BEHIND their backs.

I don't understand. Meanwhile The Leader Of The Gays has her head so far stuck up Hopkins arse she just leaves Perez to fend for himself. Maybe with half an eye on winning a victory for the gay community she saw how Nadia befriending him led to her coming out of the house to boos and so she just mugged him off. She is SUCH a fraud.

Totally abhorrent situation occurring in that house that should be an affront to any decent human being. What have we become?
We haven't become low enough to feel sympathy for someone like perez is unacceptable*by any reasonable standard.
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Old 01-02-2015, 00:52
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His behaviour is certainly all those things apart from calculating. He just goes with the flow (and usually makes the wrong decisions which I find hilarious). But he is NOT vicious, abusive and openly hateful like Hopkins. She is a disgrace to humanity but people choose to hate Perez because he is 'annoying'. Really?
He's far worse than just 'annoying'.
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Old 01-02-2015, 00:55
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I don't understand what relevance his sexuality has, he'd be just as awful whether he's gay, straight, celibate, into goats or balloons or whatever.

Katie Hopkins doesn't get off 'scot free', either inside or outside the house, there's plenty of criticism of her (rightly so) both inside and outside.

Why should Michelle defend someone just because of their sexuality? Should she turn a blind eye to terrible behaviour if he meets other criteria?
She has absolutely turned a blind eye to Hopkins behaviour. She has in fact sided with someone who absolutely hates 'the house gay' because it fits with her agenda to do well in the show even though Hopkins behaviour is MUCH worse. Staggering hypocrisy.
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Old 01-02-2015, 00:57
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I don't think that his (or anyone else's) sexuality is relevant to the discussion in this instance. I personally don't care what gender he wishes to have sexual relations with - I just find his behaviour juvenile, annoying and calculating.
Well the gender someone wishes to have sexual relations with seems to very much matter to Michelle, leader of the gays © Silent Scream so it is indeed very ironic that Perez is being hated so much.
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Old 01-02-2015, 00:59
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Well the gender someone wishes to have sexual relations with seems to very much matter to Michelle, leader of the gays © Silent Scream so it is indeed very ironic that Perez is being hated so much.
Thanks for highlighting the copyright ownership I'll split the royalties with you when they come in
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Old 01-02-2015, 01:00
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Cause and effect. Perez has brought all this on himself and has no one else to blame for people not wanting anything to do with him.

We're not shown everything that goes on and in his case it's probably just as well.
I disagree. you are just repeating the Katie Hopkins propaganda constantly repeated ON the show.

we dont KNOW if perez brought this on himself or whether he was Baited into the initial overreactions of the first weeks

I myself have rewatched the first weeks episodes and its pretty apparent perez was NOT hated and isolated by everyone. Cami was still buddies right up until He was crowned king and said he wantedto put up Cami LOL

first ken was the target of everyone, then Jeremy and then after Alexander and his aggressive stance . In the early shows there were a number of clips in which Alex claimed to be stressed out and blamed perez for it.

he attacked perez on one daily show for talking to his friends loudly in the bedroom. it was vile.


Days later Perez stood AT THAT DOOR which happens to be beside alex's bed at 630am coughing....later sarcastically saying OH yes, of course i was faking it.

when we already saw on BOTS 2 days earlier that Perez was having breathing issues with that vent above his bed.

As for the day alex left, of his own accord, Perez was quiet and wearing Katie's dress. Alex baited and goaded perez most of the day we saw , finally after making direct threats, Alex left.

Blame perez?? for alex being unable to get over it, for alex not being able to deal with Perez wearing a dress??

Alex felt he was being made a fool of, THX to nonstop propaganda and smear campaign by KH.

I think she's going to win cause average UK public arent smart enough to rewatch certain scenes.
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Old 01-02-2015, 01:00
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His behaviour is certainly all those things apart from calculating. He just goes with the flow (and usually makes the wrong decisions which I find hilarious). But he is NOT vicious, abusive and openly hateful like Hopkins. She is a disgrace to humanity but people choose to hate Perez because he is 'annoying'. Really?
Do people really not see how calculating Perez is???

Consider his little coughing episode in the bedroom and tell me that wasn't calculated.... He even announced that he was going to do it with intent to upset Alexander!

Everything is measured and calculated to annoy yet stay within the acceptable BB boundaries (except when he is antagonised himself and loses control). He is a very intelligent man with a very spiteful personality. Just look at how he's betrayed his friends in the past...
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Old 01-02-2015, 01:01
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Thanks for highlighting the copyright ownership I'll split the royalties with you when they come in
It made me lol
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Old 01-02-2015, 01:01
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I think it's disingenuous to say Perez being gay doesn't matter. Michelle reminded us all about that in her tearful diary room talk, with Calum solemnly holding her hand. Apparently Perez has put back The Cause of Gay Rights by YEARS. Apparently we, here in little old Britain, had only just heard about homosexuality and are still trying to understand and come to terms with it. Perez, single-handedly, has put back all Michelle's efforts to assure us that they are normal people just like us.


Oh I can't keep this shit up! I find Perez funny. I just do. Shoot me if you want. I just can't see the 'vile repulsive thing' that people talk about. He's just an arse being an arse. OK, it's annoying but it's a damned sight funnier to watch than anything else in there.
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Old 01-02-2015, 01:03
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Well the gender someone wishes to have sexual relations with seems to very much matter to Michelle, leader of the gays © Silent Scream so it is indeed very ironic that Perez is being hated so much.
This is not about Michelle, Champion of the Gays. Nor is it about Kav, who is also gay. It relates to Perez and his sexual proclivities are irrelevant AFAIC. His personality is abhorant whether he has sex with animals, vegetables or minerals.
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Old 01-02-2015, 01:07
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I think it's disingenuous to say Perez being gay doesn't matter. Michelle reminded us all about that in her tearful diary room talk, with Calum solemnly holding her hand. Apparently Perez has put back The Cause of Gay Rights by YEARS. Apparently we, here in little old Britain, had only just heard about homosexuality and are still trying to understand and come to terms with it. Perez, single-handedly, has put back all Michelle's efforts to assure us that they are normal people just like us.


Oh I can't keep this shit up! I find Perez funny. I just do. Shoot me if you want. I just can't see the 'vile repulsive thing' that people talk about. He's just an arse being an arse. OK, it's annoying but it's a damned sight funnier to watch than anything else in there.
With all due respect, Michelle was talking b*llocks. There is far more prejudice against gays in the USA than here and she seems to feel that she can single handedly fight their cause. She's not doing herself any favours.
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Old 01-02-2015, 01:08
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Do people really not see how calculating Perez is???

Consider his little coughing episode in the bedroom and tell me that wasn't calculated.... He even announced that he was going to do it with intent to upset Alexander!

Everything is measured and calculated to annoy yet stay within the acceptable BB boundaries (except when he is antagonised himself and loses control). He is a very intelligent man with a very spiteful personality. Just look at how he's betrayed his friends in the past...
He is annoying. He is NOT abusive. Hopkins is insulting, degrading, abusive, offensive, I can think of no disgusting character traits she does not possess but Perez gets hate for keeping people awake?

Am I still on planet Earth? I like to keep check of these things.
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Old 01-02-2015, 01:08
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I disagree. you are just repeating the Katie Hopkins propaganda constantly repeated ON the show.

we dont KNOW if perez brought this on himself or whether he was Baited into the initial overreactions of the first weeks

I myself have rewatched the first weeks episodes and its pretty apparent perez was NOT hated and isolated by everyone. Cami was still buddies right up until He was crowned king and said he wantedto put up Cami LOL

first ken was the target of everyone, then Jeremy and then after Alexander and his aggressive stance . In the early shows there were a number of clips in which Alex claimed to be stressed out and blamed perez for it.

he attacked perez on one daily show for talking to his friends loudly in the bedroom. it was vile.


Days later Perez stood AT THAT DOOR which happens to be beside alex's bed at 630am coughing....later sarcastically saying OH yes, of course i was faking it.

when we already saw on BOTS 2 days earlier that Perez was having breathing issues with that vent above his bed.

As for the day alex left, of his own accord, Perez was quiet and wearing Katie's dress. Alex baited and goaded perez most of the day we saw , finally after making direct threats, Alex left.

Blame perez?? for alex being unable to get over it, for alex not being able to deal with Perez wearing a dress??

Alex felt he was being made a fool of, THX to nonstop propaganda and smear campaign by KH.

I think she's going to win cause average UK public arent smart enough to rewatch certain scenes.
What a great post Finally some actual sense, perspective and accurate description of events. There's some kind of mass hysteria taken hold in the house and out of the House where Perez has been blamed for all the ills in this CBB.

I keep mentioning a clip I saw where Kav explains to Cami that he wouldn't be good pals with Perez because he got rid of 3 of his friends Like I keep saying since when was Kav friends with Ken and Jeremy let alone when did Perez get rid of them and Alexander
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Old 01-02-2015, 01:10
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What's gay got to do with it? Perez used his blog to out gay celebrities.
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Old 01-02-2015, 01:11
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She has absolutely turned a blind eye to Hopkins behaviour. She has in fact sided with someone who absolutely hates 'the house gay' because it fits with her agenda to do well in the show even though Hopkins behaviour is MUCH worse. Staggering hypocrisy.
'The house gay'???

Kavana is also gay, why doesn't he get to be 'the house gay'?

Michelle said that Perez's behaviour has 'set the gay community back fifty years', perhaps that's why she's not blindly supporting him and agrees with someone who's challenging him on it.
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Old 01-02-2015, 01:12
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I think it's disingenuous to say Perez being gay doesn't matter. Michelle reminded us all about that in her tearful diary room talk, with Calum solemnly holding her hand. Apparently Perez has put back The Cause of Gay Rights by YEARS. Apparently we, here in little old Britain, had only just heard about homosexuality and are still trying to understand and come to terms with it. Perez, single-handedly, has put back all Michelle's efforts to assure us that they are normal people just like us.


Oh I can't keep this shit up! I find Perez funny. I just do. Shoot me if you want. I just can't see the 'vile repulsive thing' that people talk about. He's just an arse being an arse. OK, it's annoying but it's a damned sight funnier to watch than anything else in there.
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Old 01-02-2015, 01:15
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'The house gay'???

Kavana is also gay, why doesn't he get to be 'the house gay'?

Michelle said that Perez's behaviour has 'set the gay community back fifty years', perhaps that's why she's not blindly supporting him and agrees with someone who's challenging him on it.
Does she even know Kav is gay? How has Perez set gays back? I have gay friends who are NOTHING like him. Hopkins is challenging nobody she hates EVERYBODY and I seriously question the motives of anyone who claims to support her utterly vile attitude towards everyone around her.
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