It's kind of strange that a gay man isolated by the whole house gets so much hate

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SULLA

01-02-2015

Originally Posted by jc333:
“Let's just suppose that Perez 's sexuality wasn't known or declared.

At the core he just comes across as a self-absorbed, annoying individual.”

He declared it when he threatened Callum

MARTYM8

01-02-2015

Perez is a nasty piece of work - his sexuality is irrelevant to the matter.

too_much_coffee

01-02-2015

Originally Posted by puppetangel:
“I don't think Lance Bass, Clay Aitken, Neil Patrick Harris or Anderson Cooper or Kevin Spacey found his blogs funny.

http://www.salon.com/2006/12/15/hilton_2/”

Exactly. He is a vicious, spiteful man who can't cope when the tables are turned.

rhizo_mania

01-02-2015

Originally Posted by lfipb:
“Cause and effect. Perez has brought all this on himself and has no one else to blame for people not wanting anything to do with him.

We're not shown everything that goes on and in his case it's probably just as well.”

So its all just supposition.....

Silent Scream

01-02-2015

Originally Posted by SULLA:
“He declared it when he threatened Callum”

He threatened him? How did I miss that? And how come you've seen it when nobody else has?

rhizo_mania

01-02-2015

Originally Posted by too_much_coffee:
“Do people really not see how calculating Perez is???

Consider his little coughing episode in the bedroom and tell me that wasn't calculated.... He even announced that he was going to do it with intent to upset Alexander!

Everything is measured and calculated to annoy yet stay within the acceptable BB boundaries (except when he is antagonised himself and loses control). He is a very intelligent man with a very spiteful personality. Just look at how he's betrayed his friends in the past...”

He is calculating as calculation as Katie Hopkins, in another life they could be born twins.....

Jennyuk

01-02-2015

Originally Posted by Silent Scream:
“He threatened him? How did I miss that? And how come you've seen it when nobody else has?”

BB warned him for offensive and threatening behaviour. Or did you miss that

too_much_coffee

01-02-2015

Originally Posted by rhizo_mania:
“He is calculating as calculation as Katie Hopkins, in another life they could be born twins.....”

They are two sides of the same coin.

They both earn a living from being nasty and that's why they can't stand each other.

jc333

01-02-2015

Originally Posted by SULLA:
“He declared it when he threatened Callum”

Naah, That was just guys arguing and being dicks to each other. If it had been said out of the house:...well it wouldn't have been said out of the house...

However: positions reversed: Male saying that to a female - out of order, not funny, out of the house.

It's not a threat to rape (that's silly). It's an enticement to cause someone to react negatively.

rhizo_mania

01-02-2015

Originally Posted by too_much_coffee:
“They are two sides of the same coin.

They both earn a living from being nasty and that's why they can't stand each other.”

Why cant people just see this, but love them or hate them can you imagine what the show would be like without them If like Calum you just want peace and quiet go to a library.....

bbcrzy

01-02-2015

Originally Posted by too_much_coffee:
“Do people really not see how calculating Perez is???

Consider his little coughing episode in the bedroom and tell me that wasn't calculated.... He even announced that he was going to do it with intent to upset Alexander!

Everything is measured and calculated to annoy yet stay within the acceptable BB boundaries (except when he is antagonised himself and loses control). He is a very intelligent man with a very spiteful personality. Just look at how he's betrayed his friends in the past...”

when where Which show? or are you just remembering something said by someone, probably KH gossiping. Viewers are falsely remembering scenes. I've gone back to some of the original episodes and done word for word transcription.

people are remmebering incorrectly quite often

sycamore

01-02-2015

Originally Posted by hendoll:
“That's a fair point. It's all getting a bit crazy now isn't it?
I loathe Hopkins with a passion and I have to admit that I would struggle to see anything nice in her no matter what she did. She just elicits something in me that makes me go aaggghhh!! I loathed Perez at first too - him coughing over Alex's bed was beyond the pale. I mean really, what kind of person does that shit? But somehow I've grown to prefer him to all the others in there. Thinking about it, I believe he's been blindsided by how popular Hopkins has proved to be - in the house and the rentamob cheers outside. I don't think he expected that. It was interesting to hear him say that he had imagined being good friends with Michelle. He's a trooper anyway. And for that I salute him.”

It really is getting crazy.

Imo, what blindsided him was the heavy booing he got the first time he was up for eviction. I think up to that point he believed that he really was being fun and 'zany' and entertaining and giving the audience what they wanted, and that the hostility of the other HMs up was a price well worth paying for that because he was playing a longer game - he's said several times that he was doing CBB to build his profile and audience over here. I don't watch the american BB but I've read people on here who know US tv far better than me say that the sort of stuff he got up to would have gone down much better over there. He seems to have become more frantic and more outright nasty since that night.

Part of me did feel very sorry for him that eviction night, he seemed to be really shattered by the crowd reaction in a way I've not seen on BB before, perhaps because he didn't have the support in the house that would have helped him ride it out. And also when Katie P came in, who was apparently some kind of friend of his, and who immediately banished him to the cage.

But I honestly feel he only has himself to blame for alienating the people he lives with in the house, he's behaved atrociously and even though katie H has too, she's largely focused her bad behaviour on Perez who has behaved even worse and so got away with it to a large extent from both viewers and HMs. Katie H and Perez have been the making of each other this series.

Sorry for the wall of text

Warp

01-02-2015

He isolated his self, just tonight he said "I don't give a damn what everyone here thinks" or something a long those lines, what do you expect people to think when he says something like that.

Jennyuk

01-02-2015

Originally Posted by bbcrzy:
“when where Which show? or are you just remembering something said by someone, probably KH gossiping. Viewers are falsely remembering scenes. I've gone back to some of the original episodes and done word for word transcription.

people are remmebering incorrectly quite often”

http://www.reveal.co.uk/showbiz-cele...ghing-fit.html

US gossip blogger Perez had informed Big Brother of his plan by huddling in the toilet - which has no cameras - and whispering into his microphone pack.
He said: "I'm not feeling well right now, wink, wink, so I think I'm going to start coughing a lot and loudly which may wake up some housemates and that may upset some housemates. And I also think I'm going to get out of my bed and start pacing quietly."
True to his word, Perez exited the toilet and immediately put on a coughing fit worthy of an Oscar.

dylan99

01-02-2015

Think it might of been on BOTS, you missed it, don't sweat it.

too_much_coffee

01-02-2015

He was definitely shown saying that he was planning to do it. It may have been on BOTS rather than the main show.

My memory has it's moments but that's with remembering where my keys are or my login passwords - not with false memories

sycamore

01-02-2015

http://www.reveal.co.uk/showbiz-cele...ghing-fit.html

It might have been shown on BOTS but it was definitely shown as well as being reported.

bbcrzy

01-02-2015

Originally Posted by Elvispartacus:
“Excuses for Perez behaviour..
And blaming Alex for not getting over it..

He has the right NOT to get over it !!!

Now why don't you get over it !!! And your hatred of Katie H.

”

my post didnt contain one excuse. it DID contain factual comments from BOTS and the Daily show that I rewatched.

The fact IS solid, eveyrone commented on how quiet was that day and it was just Alex who was responding ....supposedly because perez was goading him.

Which by the way we did not see. Other then sitting in a chair wellaway from Alex, we didnt see perez DO anything. We DID have KH saying all kinds of crap tho. That she 'saw'.

funny how WE didnt see the Tongue licking in and out thru the rabbit ears.

She says lies like that to manipulate the public and omg, the fools are falling for it.

too_much_coffee

01-02-2015

Originally Posted by Jennyuk:
“http://www.reveal.co.uk/showbiz-cele...ghing-fit.html

US gossip blogger Perez had informed Big Brother of his plan by huddling in the toilet - which has no cameras - and whispering into his microphone pack.
He said: "I'm not feeling well right now, wink, wink, so I think I'm going to start coughing a lot and loudly which may wake up some housemates and that may upset some housemates. And I also think I'm going to get out of my bed and start pacing quietly."
True to his word, Perez exited the toilet and immediately put on a coughing fit worthy of an Oscar.”

Thanks for that. I didn't think that I'd started imagining things

Jennyuk

01-02-2015

Originally Posted by bbcrzy:
“my post didnt contain one excuse. it DID contain factual comments from BOTS and the Daily show that I rewatched.

The fact IS solid, eveyrone commented on how quiet was that day and it was just Alex who was responding ....supposedly because perez was goading him.

Which by the way we did not see. Other then sitting in a chair wellaway from Alex, we didnt see perez DO anything. We DID have KH saying all kinds of crap tho. That she 'saw'.

funny how WE didnt see the Tongue licking in and out thru the rabbit ears.

She says lies like that to manipulate the public and omg, the fools are falling for it.”

BIB We did see that, they showed it on the HL's

bbcrzy

01-02-2015

Originally Posted by Jennyuk:
“BIB So you missed Perez standing in the toilet talking to the camera saying " I'm now going to be ill ( wink, wink) to wake the other's up. Then he left the toilet and stood NOT by his own bed but by Alex's bed and started the coughing, everytime Alex spoke to him, or anyone else spoke he coughed louder. He knew exactly what he was doing.”

because of the complaints about the coughing from nights previous.

Sure perez is playing up to camera, but it doesnt CHANGE that he was standing BY that door and that they are all locked in that bedroom at night/

bbcrzy

01-02-2015

Originally Posted by SULLA:
“He declared it when he threatened Callum”

KP coulda said it too. its just an insult and frankly, its about Dominance, not sexuality or choices.

IWasBored

01-02-2015

It was the other way round when I was watching it

too_much_coffee

01-02-2015

It was shown. Maybe you've missed an episode?

dylan99

01-02-2015

Originally Posted by sycamore:
“It really is getting crazy.

Imo, what blindsided him was the heavy booing he got the first time he was up for eviction. I think up to that point he believed that he really was being fun and 'zany' and entertaining and giving the audience what they wanted, and that the hostility of the other HMs up was a price well worth paying for that because he was playing a longer game - he's said several times that he was doing CBB to build his profile and audience over here. I don't watch the american BB but I've read people on here who know US tv far better than me say that the sort of stuff he got up to would have gone down much better over there. He seems to have become more frantic and more outright nasty since that night.

Part of me did feel very sorry for him that eviction night, he seemed to be really shattered by the crowd reaction in a way I've not seen on BB before, perhaps because he didn't have the support in the house that would have helped him ride it out. And also when Katie P came in, who was apparently some kind of friend of his, and who immediately banished him to the cage.

But I honestly feel he only has himself to blame for alienating the people he lives with in the house, he's behaved atrociously and even though katie H has too, she's largely focused her bad behaviour on Perez who has behaved even worse and so got away with it to a large extent from both viewers and HMs. Katie H and Perez have been the making of each other this series.

Sorry for the wall of text ”

No sorry needed

Well written and formatted post. Thought provoking too.

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