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It's kind of strange that a gay man isolated by the whole house gets so much hate
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AbbieJay
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by Silent Scream:
“He is annoying. He is NOT abusive. Hopkins is insulting, degrading, abusive, offensive, I can think of no disgusting character traits she does not possess but Perez gets hate for keeping people awake?

Am I still on planet Earth? I like to keep check of these things.”

They are both offensive. Why the need to choose one of them over the other?
Perez being gay has nothing to do with it, Kav is gay and isn't being left out. Perez causes it by being reactionary and over the top in his revenge.
bbcrzy
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by Jennyuk:
“BIB We did see that, they showed it on the HL's”

which HIGHLIGHTS? where? thx specifically LICKING and making TOngue moves at alex that precise moment in the livingroom with Everyone there
Penny Crayon
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by hendoll:
“I think it's disingenuous to say Perez being gay doesn't matter. Michelle reminded us all about that in her tearful diary room talk, with Calum solemnly holding her hand. Apparently Perez has put back The Cause of Gay Rights by YEARS. Apparently we, here in little old Britain, had only just heard about homosexuality and are still trying to understand and come to terms with it. Perez, single-handedly, has put back all Michelle's efforts to assure us that they are normal people just like us.


Oh I can't keep this shit up! I find Perez funny. I just do. Shoot me if you want. I just can't see the 'vile repulsive thing' that people talk about. He's just an arse being an arse. OK, it's annoying but it's a damned sight funnier to watch than anything else in there.”

I agree ................it seems to be years since I've really laughed at BB - he has really had me ROFL.

So funny, I can fully appreciate he's been difficult to live with but - he's not been really spiteful and hateful to anyone - he has done nothing to warrant that amount of abuse.
Jennyuk
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by bbcrzy:
“because of the complaints about the coughing from nights previous.

Sure perez is playing up to camera, but it doesnt CHANGE that he was standing BY that door and that they are all locked in that bedroom at night/”

Incase you missed it first time.

http://www.reveal.co.uk/showbiz-cele...ghing-fit.html

US gossip blogger Perez had informed Big Brother of his plan by huddling in the toilet - which has no cameras - and whispering into his microphone pack.
He said: "I'm not feeling well right now, wink, wink, so I think I'm going to start coughing a lot and loudly which may wake up some housemates and that may upset some housemates. And I also think I'm going to get out of my bed and start pacing quietly."
True to his word, Perez exited the toilet and immediately put on a coughing fit worthy of an Oscar.
sycamore
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by dylan99:
“No sorry needed

Well written and formatted post. Thought provoking too.”

Aww, thank you very much, that's really nice of you
sycamore
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by Jennyuk:
“Incase you missed it first time.

http://www.reveal.co.uk/showbiz-cele...ghing-fit.html

US gossip blogger Perez had informed Big Brother of his plan by huddling in the toilet - which has no cameras - and whispering into his microphone pack.
He said: "I'm not feeling well right now, wink, wink, so I think I'm going to start coughing a lot and loudly which may wake up some housemates and that may upset some housemates. And I also think I'm going to get out of my bed and start pacing quietly."
True to his word, Perez exited the toilet and immediately put on a coughing fit worthy of an Oscar.
”

Here's the video of Perez plotting his hilarious coughing prank in the toilet and then carrying it out: http://bigbrother.channel5.com/day-1...r-erupts-perez
scout2006
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by Jennyuk:
“Incase you missed it first time.

http://www.reveal.co.uk/showbiz-cele...ghing-fit.html

US gossip blogger Perez had informed Big Brother of his plan by huddling in the toilet - which has no cameras - and whispering into his microphone pack.
He said: "I'm not feeling well right now, wink, wink, so I think I'm going to start coughing a lot and loudly which may wake up some housemates and that may upset some housemates. And I also think I'm going to get out of my bed and start pacing quietly."
True to his word, Perez exited the toilet and immediately put on a coughing fit worthy of an Oscar.
”

So the fcuk what??????? They are celebrities living in a TV studio Missing one hour, or a couple of hours sleep one night is not going to kill them. It's not as if they all have to get up and do a full eight hours of physically demanding work, is it? I've suffered from insomnia, I know what it's like to go for months and months without a proper nights sleep.

From what I remember of the clip shown, Perez woke the HM's up at about 6am, which was selfish and a bit juvenile but that's all it was. FGS, it wasn't life threatening for any of them. The whole thing has been blown out of all proportion. They lost a couple of hours sleep one night, big bloody deal, boo-bloody-hoo!!
Jennyuk
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by scout2006:
“So the fcuk what??????? They are celebrities living in a TV studio Missing one hour, or a couple of hours sleep one night is not going to kill them. It's not as if they all have to get up and do a full eight hours of physically demanding work, is it? I've suffered from insomnia, I know what it's like to go for months and months without a proper nights sleep.

From what I remember of the clip shown, Perez woke the HM's up at about 6am, which was selfish and a bit juvenile but that's all it was. FGS, it wasn't life threatening for any of them. The whole thing has been blown out of all proportion. They lost a couple of hours sleep one night, big bloody deal, boo-bloody-hoo!!”

IF you read back you will see that someone said this incident didnt happen. Now please dont swear at me, as there is really no need, thank you.
Elvispartacus
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by scout2006:
“So the fcuk what??????? They are celebrities living in a TV studio Missing one hour, or a couple of hours sleep one night is not going to kill them. It's not as if they all have to get up and do a full eight hours of physically demanding work, is it? I've suffered from insomnia, I know what it's like to go for months and months without a proper nights sleep.

From what I remember of the clip shown, Perez woke the HM's up at about 6am, which was selfish and a bit juvenile but that's all it was. FGS, it wasn't life threatening for any of them. The whole thing has been blown out of all proportion. They lost a couple of hours sleep one night, big bloody deal, boo-bloody-hoo!!”

What's your Point ???
sycamore
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by scout2006:
“So the fcuk what??????? They are celebrities living in a TV studio Missing one hour, or a couple of hours sleep one night is not going to kill them. It's not as if they all have to get up and do a full eight hours of physically demanding work, is it? I've suffered from insomnia, I know what it's like to go for months and months without a proper nights sleep.

From what I remember of the clip shown, Perez woke the HM's up at about 6am, which was selfish and a bit juvenile but that's all it was. FGS, it wasn't life threatening for any of them. The whole thing has been blown out of all proportion. They lost a couple of hours sleep one night, big bloody deal, boo-bloody-hoo!!”

As Jennyuk said, that incident was being cited earlier in the thread as an example of people having some kind of false memory syndrome and making up events that never actually happened in the house so they could be mean about housemates they don't like. She was just providing a link to show that it did really happen.
trevor tiger
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by Jennyuk:
“BB warned him for offensive and threatening behaviour. Or did you miss that ”

I believe it was behaviour that could be deemed threatening / offensive. They're just covering themselves in my view.

Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“I agree ................it seems to be years since I've really laughed at BB - he has really had me ROFL.

So funny, I can fully appreciate he's been difficult to live with but - he's not been really spiteful and hateful to anyone - he has done nothing to warrant that amount of abuse.”

This is it exactly, Perez is hilarious. Why aren't we allowed to just rofl to our little hearts content
Penny Crayon
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by scout2006:
“So the fcuk what??????? They are celebrities living in a TV studio Missing one hour, or a couple of hours sleep one night is not going to kill them. It's not as if they all have to get up and do a full eight hours of physically demanding work, is it? I've suffered from insomnia, I know what it's like to go for months and months without a proper nights sleep.

From what I remember of the clip shown, Perez woke the HM's up at about 6am, which was selfish and a bit juvenile but that's all it was. FGS, it wasn't life threatening for any of them. The whole thing has been blown out of all proportion. They lost a couple of hours sleep one night, big bloody deal, boo-bloody-hoo!!”

Apparently Patsy woke them up at about six every morning to go jogging in the garden.

I must be a sick bugger because I found the whole coughing thing (especially how he let everyone in on the secret in the toilet) bloody hilarious.

It certainly doesn't deserve all the hatred that has been aimed at him for it - it was a childish (and quite funny) prank. It wasn't threatening to anyone was it? He didn't hurt anyone.
IWasBored
01-02-2015
If you are poorly, a lack of sleep is very bad indeed. In 2009 Halfwit said that if he gets no sleep he is not a fun person. I am not a fun person when people have woken me up and when I feel I cannot get back to sleep. Perez Hilton was standing next to the bed
jende
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by hendoll:
“I think it's disingenuous to say Perez being gay doesn't matter. Michelle reminded us all about that in her tearful diary room talk, with Calum solemnly holding her hand. Apparently Perez has put back The Cause of Gay Rights by YEARS. Apparently we, here in little old Britain, had only just heard about homosexuality and are still trying to understand and come to terms with it. Perez, single-handedly, has put back all Michelle's efforts to assure us that they are normal people just like us.


Oh I can't keep this shit up! I find Perez funny. I just do. Shoot me if you want. I just can't see the 'vile repulsive thing' that people talk about. He's just an arse being an arse. OK, it's annoying but it's a damned sight funnier to watch than anything else in there.”

My sister said exactly the same as your first paragraph. I did say to my sister that in America you have to remember they face a lot of right wing, Christians who think anyone who isn't hetero should die. They have a lot of power. I did wonder maybe she was thinking about them, more than here. Although I do think some Americans do still think of Britain as quaint and the whole 'homosexuality' issue will make us women faint and men shoot guns!!!

Second paragraph, my other half has saud he most probably shouldn't like Perez but he does! He makes him laugh. He doesn't like how they gang up on Perez. My sister thinks he's ok and hasn't been nasty and for her, that's what's important.

Reason I'm telling you their reaction is because I've adandoned BB! I watched who was going in, knew with the current BB watchers the nasty piece of work will no doubt win (that's KH in case you wondered) and after Jim Davidson and Helen, can't watch anymore. Unfortunatley,my OH and sister talk about it!!! I actually came on here to see what reasons people were using for supporting KH but wandered on this thread!

Thought I should explain why I'm quoting relatives, but pretty much wanted to say, they agree with you!!!
SULLA
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by Silent Scream:
“He threatened him? How did I miss that? And how come you've seen it when nobody else has?”

It was on the tele.

Originally Posted by jc333:
“Naah, That was just guys arguing and being dicks to each other. If it had been said out of the house:...well it wouldn't have been said out of the house...

However: positions reversed: Male saying that to a female - out of order, not funny, out of the house.

It's not a threat to rape (that's silly). It's an enticement to cause someone to react negatively.”

BB gave him a final warning.
smoggieboon
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by Silent Scream:
“He's a bit of an idiot and made a few mistakes in the beginning basically by just annoying everyone in a NON aggressive way but now he finds himself the easy target, the hate figure.

Hopkins gets off scot free despite hating most of 'her' great British public and constantly throwing disgusting abuse at all the HM's the worst of it BEHIND their backs.

I don't understand. Meanwhile The Leader Of The Gays has her head so far stuck up Hopkins arse she just leaves Perez to fend for himself. Maybe with half an eye on winning a victory for the gay community she saw how Nadia befriending him led to her coming out of the house to boos and so she just mugged him off. She is SUCH a fraud.

Totally abhorrent situation occurring in that house that should be an affront to any decent human being. What have we become?”

Dumb thread alert . . . . . He's not being isolated because he's gay, it's because he's a tool. So is nobody allowed to dislike someone without being accused of homophobia, because he's gay.
scout2006
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by sycamore:
“As Jennyuk said, that incident was being cited earlier in the thread as an example of people having some kind of false memory syndrome and making up events that never actually happened in the house so they could be mean about housemates they don't like. She was just providing a link to show that it did really happen.”

Originally Posted by Jennyuk:
“IF you read back you will see that someone said this incident didnt happen. Now please dont swear at me, as there is really no need, thank you.”

Originally Posted by Elvispartacus:
“What's your Point ???”


I'm confused What am I supposed to think about when I'm posting? My post on this thread is post #82 and I quoted Jennyuk's post, which is post #79. I quoted the last post on the thread (at the time I was reading it) so why am I being told to check the veracity of that post, isn't that the poster's responsibiity

Why is it my fault if the poster includes a video link that actually disproves their point
Jennyuk
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by scout2006:
“I'm confused What am I supposed to think about when I'm posting? My post on this thread is post #82 and I quoted Jennyuk's post, which is post #79. I quoted the last post on the thread (at the time I was reading it) so why am I being told to check the veracity of that post, isn't that the poster's responsibiity

Why is it my fault if the poster includes a video link that actually disproves their point ”

I didnt post a video, i posted an article. As i said if you had read the whole thread the subject of Perez and his coughing near Alex, was a made up story as the FM hadnt seen it. Myself and other FMs pointed out that the story was true. You then decided to quote me and started swearing, why you did that i'm not sure, maybe you're tired.
Julesc78
01-02-2015
He isn't hated because he's gay, he's disliked because he's acting like an idiot...simples. Everyone has the right to like or dislike as they please, majority of the house dislike him, lots of the public do too, can't be all wrong...unless we are and we should be made to conform with those who love him :P
dylan99
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by scout2006:
“I'm confused What am I supposed to think about when I'm posting? My post on this thread is post #82 and I quoted Jennyuk's post, which is post #79. I quoted the last post on the thread (at the time I was reading it) so why am I being told to check the veracity of that post, isn't that the poster's responsibiity

Why is it my fault if the poster includes a video link that actually disproves their point ”

You certainly are confused/confusing!

As Jenny has explained, the discussion was about if some us had made up the point when Perez had he's coughing fit, he was on a deliberate wind up. You seemed to think we had suggested waking someone up, is likely to cause them to die or not. Quite rightly, you were very confident, chances of dieing from being woken up at 5-6am are slim to none.

I thought you were building a very handsome straw man. Now i think you just misread the thread, big time.
dylan99
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by bbcrzy:
“because of the complaints about the coughing from nights previous.

Sure perez is playing up to camera, but it doesnt CHANGE that he was standing BY that door and that they are all locked in that bedroom at night/”

LOL at your capitalisation there

If you like, I'll let you have the point (even if i don't get the relevance ) that he was BY that door while coughing. Deep down though, can't help thinking what you describe as a door, was in fact a bed, with an Alex asleep on it.
Philip_Clarke
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by Silent Scream:
“He's a bit of an idiot and made a few mistakes in the beginning basically by just annoying everyone in a NON aggressive way but now he finds himself the easy target, the hate figure.

Hopkins gets off scot free despite hating most of 'her' great British public and constantly throwing disgusting abuse at all the HM's the worst of it BEHIND their backs.

I don't understand. Meanwhile The Leader Of The Gays has her head so far stuck up Hopkins arse she just leaves Perez to fend for himself. Maybe with half an eye on winning a victory for the gay community she saw how Nadia befriending him led to her coming out of the house to boos and so she just mugged him off. She is SUCH a fraud.

Totally abhorrent situation occurring in that house that should be an affront to any decent human being. What have we become?”

I agree and the sad answer to the question is : a nation of bullies who cheer on another bully.
Obviously I set myself apart from this which is why I'll spend money on Perez
Dextor_Morgan
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by too_much_coffee:
“I don't think that his (or anyone else's) sexuality is relevant to the discussion in this instance. I personally don't care what gender he wishes to have sexual relations with - I just find his behaviour juvenile, annoying and calculating.”

Perfect reply to OP.
scout2006
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by Jennyuk:
“I didnt post a video, i posted an article. As i said if you had read the whole thread the subject of Perez and his coughing near Alex, was a made up story as the FM hadnt seen it. Myself and other FMs pointed out that the story was true. You then decided to quote me and started swearing, why you did that i'm not sure, maybe you're tired. ”

I didn't swear I may have mis-labelled your link as being directed to a video when in actual fact it doesn't link to anything other than an "Ooops, we can't find the page you're looking for", but that has nothing to do with my opinion that losing one or two hours sleep isn't likely to have an adverse effect on anyone's health.

Originally Posted by dylan99:
“You certainly are confused/confusing!

As Jenny has explained, the discussion was about if some us had made up the point when Perez had he's coughing fit, he was on a deliberate wind up. You seemed to think we had suggested waking someone up, is likely to cause them to die or not. Quite rightly, you were very confident, chances of dieing from being woken up at 5-6am are slim to none.

I thought you were building a very handsome straw man. Now i think you just misread the thread, big time.”

Nice attempt at deflection but all I did was comment on the fact that I didn't think that losing an hour or two's sleep was likely to be life-threatening to any of the HM's, and that Perez had been vilified for something that was stupid and selfish but in actuality was just quite silly. Now, is there anything else you want to be faux offended about?
too_much_coffee
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by scout2006:
“So the fcuk what??????? They are celebrities living in a TV studio Missing one hour, or a couple of hours sleep one night is not going to kill them. It's not as if they all have to get up and do a full eight hours of physically demanding work, is it? I've suffered from insomnia, I know what it's like to go for months and months without a proper nights sleep.

From what I remember of the clip shown, Perez woke the HM's up at about 6am, which was selfish and a bit juvenile but that's all it was. FGS, it wasn't life threatening for any of them. The whole thing has been blown out of all proportion. They lost a couple of hours sleep one night, big bloody deal, boo-bloody-hoo!!”

The severity of what he did is irrelevant. The coughing incident was cited as an example of how his behaviour is deliberate and calculating.
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