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Old 01-02-2015, 13:05
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It seems that Perez fans are rude and likeminded
Do you know what psychologists call what you've done here? 'False Consensus Effect', which is the tendency to exaggerate or imagine negative traits in someone who doesn't think like we do.


Ha ha... it's so true that the things that people most despise in others are a reflection of themselves.
So secretly you share the same traits as Perez then?
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Old 01-02-2015, 13:09
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He's a bit of an idiot and made a few mistakes in the beginning basically by just annoying everyone in a NON aggressive way but now he finds himself the easy target, the hate figure.

Hopkins gets off scot free despite hating most of 'her' great British public and constantly throwing disgusting abuse at all the HM's the worst of it BEHIND their backs.

I don't understand. Meanwhile The Leader Of The Gays has her head so far stuck up Hopkins arse she just leaves Perez to fend for himself. Maybe with half an eye on winning a victory for the gay community she saw how Nadia befriending him led to her coming out of the house to boos and so she just mugged him off. She is SUCH a fraud.

Totally abhorrent situation occurring in that house that should be an affront to any decent human being. What have we become?
Can I please remind you he has received three warnings. Two of which were for threatening behaviour.
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Old 01-02-2015, 13:21
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So secretly you share the same traits as Perez then?
Actually, yes. We all share some traits. None of us are perfect
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Old 01-02-2015, 14:15
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Actually, yes. We all share some traits. None of us are perfect
On that we can agree!
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Old 01-02-2015, 19:10
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I didn't swear I may have mis-labelled your link as being directed to a video when in actual fact it doesn't link to anything other than an "Ooops, we can't find the page you're looking for", but that has nothing to do with my opinion that losing one or two hours sleep isn't likely to have an adverse effect on anyone's health.



Nice attempt at deflection but all I did was comment on the fact that I didn't think that losing an hour or two's sleep was likely to be life-threatening to any of the HM's, and that Perez had been vilified for something that was stupid and selfish but in actuality was just quite silly. Now, is there anything else you want to be faux offended about?

So you were building a straw man? And you just want want to digging your hole? Your cheap aftershave offends me, but i won't mention that.
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Old 01-02-2015, 20:43
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Because Perez isn't the good little gay that knows his place, sits in the corner and worships at Michelle's feet for "Championing his cause".
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Old 01-02-2015, 20:46
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He's a bit of an idiot and made a few mistakes in the beginning basically by just annoying everyone in a NON aggressive way but now he finds himself the easy target, the hate figure.

Hopkins gets off scot free despite hating most of 'her' great British public and constantly throwing disgusting abuse at all the HM's the worst of it BEHIND their backs.

I don't understand. Meanwhile The Leader Of The Gays has her head so far stuck up Hopkins arse she just leaves Perez to fend for himself. Maybe with half an eye on winning a victory for the gay community she saw how Nadia befriending him led to her coming out of the house to boos and so she just mugged him off. She is SUCH a fraud.

Totally abhorrent situation occurring in that house that should be an affront to any decent human being. What have we become?
What has Gay got to do with anything? It has no bearing on the way Perez is acting up.
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Old 01-02-2015, 20:53
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Parez has made his bed he now have to lie on it he is his own worst enemy
And if you send to Coventry He onl has his self blame
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Old 01-02-2015, 20:57
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There was a lot of talk of Nadia going into the house with a grudge against Katie Hopkins but, in reality, all that meant was Nadia didn't like KH's values and wasn't prepared to compromise her own by pretending otherwise. The real person who entered the house with a grudge was Michelle. She hates that Perez doesn't worship her as The Leader of the Gay Community. You could see from their first conversations that she really thinks he's failed to pay her enough gratitude for having him on her radio show a few times years ago. For all her talk of standing up for the outcasts Michelle has joined the biggest pack and become the minion of a career bigot because she enjoys watching Perez suffer. Perez nailed her the other day in a conversation with KP; by saying nothing when KH airs her ugly views Michelle is endorsing and enabling KH's behaviour.
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Old 01-02-2015, 21:03
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Parez has made his bed he now have to lie on it he is his own worst enemy
And if you send to Coventry He onl has his self blame
Yep just like your hero you don't have an ounce of compassion in your entire body. Nothing he has done in there is THAT bad compared to the vile, repulsive behaviour we've seen from Hopkins in every single episode of the show.

I still want to know why that horrible bitch wasn't given a warning for trying to convince everyone to isolate him which is a disgusting thing to do.
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Old 01-02-2015, 22:34
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I haven't commented on this series so far as I felt from the beginning it has lacked humour, warmth or intelligent conversation. I can't say I have warmed to any of the folks in there.

I am totally perplexed as to why any one can see any positive traits in Katy Hopkins. She is a cold, mean, calculating, bullying, delusional hypocrite.
Yes Perez is an annoying, self-obsessed prat... but generally harmless. Hopkins is toxic and one of, if not the most repugnant humans to ever slime through BB's doors.

She must have had an incredibly traumatic childhood... either that... or she is Wack-a-doo in the skull. Human effluence of the highest order.

The scariest thing? The amount of sheep buying into her...
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Old 01-02-2015, 22:50
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What the hell has being gay got to do with it. The man is the epitome of a see you next Tuesday, that's why he's hated.
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Old 01-02-2015, 22:51
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I agree ................it seems to be years since I've really laughed at BB - he has really had me ROFL.

So funny, I can fully appreciate he's been difficult to live with but - he's not been really spiteful and hateful to anyone - he has done nothing to warrant that amount of abuse.
My sister said exactly the same as your first paragraph. I did say to my sister that in America you have to remember they face a lot of right wing, Christians who think anyone who isn't hetero should die. They have a lot of power. I did wonder maybe she was thinking about them, more than here. Although I do think some Americans do still think of Britain as quaint and the whole 'homosexuality' issue will make us women faint and men shoot guns!!!

Second paragraph, my other half has saud he most probably shouldn't like Perez but he does! He makes him laugh. He doesn't like how they gang up on Perez. My sister thinks he's ok and hasn't been nasty and for her, that's what's important.

Reason I'm telling you their reaction is because I've adandoned BB! I watched who was going in, knew with the current BB watchers the nasty piece of work will no doubt win (that's KH in case you wondered) and after Jim Davidson and Helen, can't watch anymore. Unfortunatley,my OH and sister talk about it!!! I actually came on here to see what reasons people were using for supporting KH but wandered on this thread!

Thought I should explain why I'm quoting relatives, but pretty much wanted to say, they agree with you!!!
Thanks guys! It's nice to know sometimes that you're not talking crap into the ether all the time.
It's interesting, jende, what you say about the difference in attitude towards homosexuality in the States. But you'd think Michelle would have done some research first, no? I can't get over what a disappointment she's been. Seriously If the self-proclaimed spokesperson for "the gay community" can't manage to engage with Perez, what the hell?
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Old 01-02-2015, 22:58
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Because Perez isn't the good little gay that knows his place, sits in the corner and worships at Michelle's feet for "Championing his cause".
It seems so. He's a 'bad gay', apparently. Gives them all a bad name doncha know. And for that he should be ignored and isolated. I found it very interesting when Perez said to Nadia that he had imagined that he and Michelle would be BFFs in the House. The fact that she, of all people, completely rejected him must have been a bit harsh for him. Personally, I cannot understand Michelle at all. If she's this self-proclaimed champion of gay rights and "her people", why does she not engage with Perez on any level? It makes no sense to me. Why doesn't she talk to him? Berate him? Scold him? Discuss how she feels about his behaviour with him? It makes no sense to me at all. As a result I find Michelle lacking in all departments. Except putting on and taking off make-up. She seems quite good at that.
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Old 01-02-2015, 23:07
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[quote=scout2006;76757941]I didn't swear I may have mis-labelled your link as being directed to a video when in actual fact it doesn't link to anything other than an "Ooops, we can't find the page you're looking for", but that has nothing to do with my opinion that losing one or two hours sleep isn't likely to have an adverse effect on anyone's health.

The link does work click it http://bigbrother.channel5.com/day-1...r-erupts-perez
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Old 02-02-2015, 00:31
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It seems so. He's a 'bad gay', apparently. Gives them all a bad name doncha know. And for that he should be ignored and isolated. I found it very interesting when Perez said to Nadia that he had imagined that he and Michelle would be BFFs in the House. The fact that she, of all people, completely rejected him must have been a bit harsh for him. Personally, I cannot understand Michelle at all. If she's this self-proclaimed champion of gay rights and "her people", why does she not engage with Perez on any level? It makes no sense to me. Why doesn't she talk to him? Berate him? Scold him? Discuss how she feels about his behaviour with him? It makes no sense to me at all. As a result I find Michelle lacking in all departments. Except putting on and taking off make-up. She seems quite good at that.

I think she will also have a problem with him because in the States, he has form for outing celebrities as gay, regardless of if they are or not. In that respect, maybe he is a 'bad gay'. Surely gay rights include being able to come out, as and when you want to?
She did seem keen to talk to him at first, but he didn't want to credit her for 'making him' by getting him on her radio show when he was starting out..
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Old 02-02-2015, 07:08
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His sexuality has nothing to do with the fact that he is a tw*t
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Old 02-02-2015, 10:21
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What the hell has being gay got to do with it. The man is the epitome of a see you next Tuesday, that's why he's hated.
This.
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Old 02-02-2015, 11:17
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She has absolutely turned a blind eye to Hopkins behaviour. She has in fact sided with someone who absolutely hates 'the house gay' because it fits with her agenda to do well in the show even though Hopkins behaviour is MUCH worse. Staggering hypocrisy.
Hate to tell you this but Kav is also gay - so the whole discussion here is ridiculous and actually quite offensive.
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Old 02-02-2015, 11:35
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This is a game show. We see 45 mins every night. They are not going to show them playing nice it wouldn't make good TV.

Katie H, Perez, Katie P and Michelle are all playing nice with makeup, see on channel 5 website, so Perez is obviously not being ignored. It is a game show. It is all for effect. Most of the time they seem to be getting on fine, especially since Nadia left the house.
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Old 02-02-2015, 11:40
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This is a game show. We see 45 mins every night. They are not going to show them playing nice it wouldn't make good TV.

Katie H, Perez, Katie P and Michelle are all playing nice with makeup, see on channel 5 website, so Perez is obviously not being ignored. It is a game show. It is all for effect. Most of the time they seem to be getting on fine, especially since Nadia left the house.
They're all playing nicely with their colouring book substitutes. Aw bless.
Could be something to do with the viewers comment to sheeple Kav, being between Hopkins arse cheeks and Michelle being 3rd in line for biggest game player.
Ouch I bet that stung the most genuine and honest person ever to walk this land. Mmm, I wonder how many home truths there were in all.
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Old 02-02-2015, 11:45
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[quote=Jennyuk;76770683]
I didn't swear I may have mis-labelled your link as being directed to a video when in actual fact it doesn't link to anything other than an "Ooops, we can't find the page you're looking for", but that has nothing to do with my opinion that losing one or two hours sleep isn't likely to have an adverse effect on anyone's health.

The link does work click it http://bigbrother.channel5.com/day-1...r-erupts-perez
It's disgraceful the way this has been made out to be the worst thing that ever happened in the house. Hopkins jumped on it to suit her centre stage, big mouth and it was magnified out of all proportion. Alex is far from being a helpless old guy and it was also patronising beyond belief. Alex said himself he was ashamed he was afraid of his inability to control his temper. Good for him, respect. He also had work scheduled in the UK, but that gets conveniently ignored. Mmmmm.
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Old 02-02-2015, 11:46
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What the hell has being gay got to do with it. The man is the epitome of a see you next Tuesday, that's why he's hated.
hi Nosaer, it was Michelle that made Perez being gay "an issue" when she sobbed in the diary room that he sets back The Cause by decades. She made it an issue, she defines everyone on her gayometer: she likes Kav and knew she would because he's gay, she gets on with Callum despite him being straight. Perez was a Bad Gay who damaged Her Commuinity.
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