Chortle is not a spoof site

http://www.theguardian.com/stage/the...-jokes-twitter

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...tter-page.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolog...comedians.html

http://www.chortle.co.uk/news/2011/0..._quits_twitter

You missed the three other times he gave Hopkins and in the "debate", her gang, what for? Strange, a lot was discussed about him each time, "coming off the fence". Does he have a ladder to get up and down from this imaginary fence, to suit every unfounded argument about this? Does everyone have to scrap like school kids over every damn thing in there. Hopkins does a very good job of that for the lot of them.

I think Keith is genuinely nice but does this make him a deserving winner? I am not sure as he was very dull at the beginning. However, if he wins then I won't be disappointed - sooner Keith wins than Perez.

Oh give it a rest.

How do you come to that strange conclusion.

It was KH that called him a grumpy old bastard so she was the one who needed tackling, and that's exactly what he did. Absolutely nothing to do with Perez.

Who is that addressed to?

Bloody well said! Keith is a decent man. Blimey, some people are looking for any little character trait as reason to bring him down. If he never put a foot wrong, some would say he's 'too perfect'. If he challenges someone they say that it's his 'real side' coming out. We are all 'full of sides'. He's done really well to keep his wits together in this year's volatile CBB and whether he wins or not, he deserves credit.

i think cause and effect are slightly more complex, particularly in that environment.

he is sometimes a grumpy old bastard, and its the atmosphere created by perez that has made him so. he's openly spoken to others about how difficult he finds perez' behaviour. but he doesn't confront perez with it. and he certainly doesn't show his anger about it to perez. that all gets projected onto KH when she comments on him being grumpy.

To suggest he finds Perez alone difficult is a stretch. He also finds HK difficult, as do many of them. He also finds drunk Kav difficult. He had every right to react to being called a grumpy old bastard by someone who then flounced off into another room. No projection going on at all...he tackled the offender, as he should have.

haha what are you like.

‘PS This blog is not to be seen as a call to arms. I don’t want anyone hurling abuse at Chegwin as a result of anything I’ve said here.’

I'm sorry, it reads like one.

There were two links originally, you are commenting on the spoof link

I think so too He really hams it up in the DR

the difference is that he can and has confronted both Kav and KH about their behaviour. he hasn't confronted perez, although he has said to others that he finds him a 'nightmare'. his anger at perez gets deflected into others, precisely because they are safe enough to absorb it, where perez is a lose cannon and keith is not prepared to deal with what it might entail. i don;'t blame him - i wouldn't want to be on the wrong side of perez in that house either, he's demonstrated he has no boundaries. but this discussion is about keith, and thats what i see happening.

Yes, I remember his entire career/persona and think he's faking it--which is why Kav and Katie H get so riled by his 'neutrality' and hiding behind scrubbing the loos and 'bleaching' the sinks [really?? Who the hell Bleaches sinks??] to slide under the radar to the Final. OK, as a Viewer he's dull as ditchwater, but enjoying that KH is prodding him to reveal his true nature. Even a BOTS panellist revealed he 'steals' jokes from fellow comedians and is reviled for it, so HMs are sniffing out his darker side on our behalf. I've worked with several 'National Treasures' over the decades and most of them are nasty, arrogant, phoneys---Keith may not be that at all, but he merits a Prodding if he hopes to win this show.

I seem to recall Cheggers telling Perez to leave him alone as he wasn't interested. He got quite annoyed at him

You were saying that the reason Keith confronted KH is because he cannot confront Perez. I pointed out that the reason he confronted her was because of her childish insult and flounce which was nothing to do with Perez.

He might well be prepared to confront Perez over his behaviour, but I suspect that if he insulted him to his face he may well have something to say about it.

Yes he has and strongly, you obviously missed it. If you expect him to join the juveniles in the isolation bullying, he won't, he's an adult. He's also not afraid of KH or her threats, which has clearly got her rattled, as usual.

The OP. Keith is clearly just a nice guy, and there's no more to it no matter how hard you try.

This ^^^ and we are not used to nice guys in BB anymore so he is a rarity and its sad when he is condemned for it.

I'm saying both / and, not either/or. Human interactions are rarely binary.

I fear i can't match your levels of immersion and indentification.

I couldnt really give a toss about any of them

If you think about it, it's a marvel that anyone can be observed day after day existing in a pressure cooker environment and the worst people can say is "he's boring", "he's a fence sitter", "he MUST be playing a game, no one is that nice".

People who are that inoffensive are rare in real life. I bet 90% of this forum, and I include myself, would be slaughtered on DS if their own personalities were under a microscope like Big Brother.