Of course he has. He is orchestrating the whole situation.

How many times have we seen him saying that he is in control? How many times must he sing that it's The Perez Show??

He is so manipulative that he could put Machiavelli to shame...

He's playing a blinding game, just not one that I like as I'd like to see more of other HMs.

Bullying as a form of teaching someone the right way to behave.

An advocate of that would suggest the only way Perez will adjust his behaviour in accordance with accepted tolerances is to bully/isolate/ridicule him.

It's the kind of mentality that developes in a lawless society, the wild west. When figures of authority aren't trusted to be effective in establishing boundaries, and so it's taken into the hands of those who are willing to become a bully.

Does anyone deserve it? Not sure the question computes tbh
Is it ever Necessary? Probably, but not in this instance.

The word bully is used so often now, any negative act towards another housemates is classed as bulling these days.

Spot on summary of Perez and he has played the other housemates especially Nadia but she will never admit that.

I still can't figure out why in the diary room bb was so weak .
It was laughable the warnings he was given .
Its as if he was bigger than the show
If he had been evicted there were still a lot of celebs to carry the show
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Any thoughts

Great point, and you're completely right. I could never dislike a HM as much as I dislike the decision-makers behind the show. Their level of pot-stirring and contempt to both HMs and viewers increases with every series.

Every single one of those wretched polls is at best, cruel, and at worst bullying. Telling people they're boring, most unhygienic, most annoying? It becomes bullying when the same HM keeps being voted as 'most' this or 'worst that', and it was especially obvious in BB14 when Hazel kept being forced to do horrible tasks because Big Brother basically allowed the British public to punish her (and for what...being assaulted/threatened by Daley? Being Gina's nemesis?).


Lacrosse socks?

I know what you mean though. She's a [not so] jolly hockeysticks, Head Girl type.

I find it really mystifying how he is being viewed as a victim rather than an instigator of the situation...

I am not sure that is the case. Speaking personally I can accept someone can be both instigator and victim. That though doesn't justify summary justice, meted out by a self appointed moral arbiter, acting as judge, jury and the warden to oversee that the just deserts, she feels fitting, are carried out. Down that route lies despotism.

In general terms the laws of natural justice surely don't justify righting a wrong by committing another wrong.

No bullying should never be encouraged or accepted, however it is hard to have empathy with someone who makes a living out of professional cyber bullying

You are absolutely correct - they can.

In this instance though I don't feel that he is being bullied. Katie may be trying to whip up her gang against him but it's not really working and she's just looking rather foolish.

Totally agree with you there.

And if she had an ounce of wit she would realise that. Most people have a degree of compassion, so to be faced with ostracising someone and continuing to live in close quarters with them, would be very uncomfortable for the majority of people. Since she can't actually banish him, what she is asking or seems to be asking of her fellow housemates is unfair and in some respects an abuse of her relationship vis a vis them.

Her total lack of ability to empathise doesn't help either.

I'm not sure I agree with the last point. I think it IS working. Some of the HMs don't seem to want him in exile anymore but are evidently uncomfortable about it. For example:

# Michelle told KP last night that she liked Perez. But she also told her that she (KP) is now stuck with him. Why is KP stuck with Perez if Michelle also likes him? Why can't Michelle now be friends with him too?

# Kav was trying to justify to, was it Calum, why he's still talking to Perez ("he's done nothing to me...I can't just ignore the guy").

# Cami, according to Nadia, would sometimes smile secretly when Perez was being Perez, and we've seen a gradual defrosting between them in recent days. But publicly, she'll still hurl abuse at him and treat him like the enemy.

There is no positive bullying. Not even when a victim becomes a bully.

There is retaliation by the victim towards the bully which is acceptable. This means the victim can find the inner strength to protect themslves. This is not bullying.

Perez may have in the past "bullied". The people he bullied have a right to defend themselves.

This does not mean KH can pick up the gauntlet and excuse her bullying of Perez because of what he supposedly did or said to any other adult.

She is one of the biggest media bullies with a pulse imo. She causes harm and upset to people she doesn't know or ever will know. Imagine all those new mums just given birth to a ginger baby and have opted to breast feed. Should Katie Hopkins really be given a public stage to spout her vile prejudices about them?

People are listening to her hateful opinions and agreeing with her. Her small ripples of hate turn into a wave of hate. People like her feed into and off everything that is nasty. What happened to live and let live ffs. She is pathetic and I would hate to be that narrow minded.

I've been watching Katie Hopkins and it makes me wonder what she's really like in her private life. I don't know much about her apart from CBB and that she writes a newspaper column. We all have different things we're a bit intolerant about, that's just part of being human, but I've never come across a person with so many dislikes and disdain for so many different things. Is she for real or is this just some sort of act she puts on? I really don't understand her at all.

I don't know if he is being bullied - but I DO believe that there is something seriously wrong with him.

There is a clear divide between trying to be entertaining (and thinking you know what that is) - and being offensive. He is OFTEN offensive.

What strikes me is that he has a selective memory when it comes to recalling incidents that happen - and I can't believe that it's anything other than deliberate.

For instance, in the row with Callum, Callum told him to SHUT UP and also called him a DICK. (which is not very nice, but not highly offensive in the circumstances)

HE (Perez) then went on to say (something like) 'I WILL BE A MASSIVE DICK - AND I'LL SHOVE IT UP YOUR ASS!' - which is obviously ten times worse, much more shocking and IS actually VERY offensive!!

When quizzed and reprimanded in the Diary Room he seemed to ONLY hone in on the comments made by Callum to him - and by the quizzical looks on his face he seemed bewildered about his own comments (as if he didn't believe he'd made them)


I don't know the name for what he does - some call it goading, some call it winding people up - but it's basically the equivalent of going up to someone and inviting them to slap you in the face - and saying 'Go on, Go on, GO ON!!'

THEN - getting all upset and saying "I can't believe you've slapped me in the face!'

'I'm calling my lawyers, I DON'T FEEL SAFE!!'

what a nutjob..............

I'm wondering if Perez didn't understand that 'dick' in UK means idiot ,,, that's certainly what Calum meant by calling Perez a dick.

or did Perez know that, and was just being deliberately insulting and winding Calum up by using it to mean something else ?

Ultimately someone rather dangerous, someone most people would avoid if they could.

Ignoring someone who will goad and turn on you and then cry 'victim', is someone it is eminently SENSIBLE to stay away from, and doing that isn't bullying.

In the house if they ignore him they are bullying him, and if they interact with him they are still in danger of being manipulated into 'bullying' him - KH, or threatening/bullying him(Calum, Alex).

It's up to Perez how he plays it. He's not the victim, he decides whose in the frame. The only one who handles him at all is KH and she comes across as pretty much as bad as him.

Unpleasant person to have around. Even Patsy couldn't stand him, 'when he's being Perez' (diplomacy). Keith will be civil but is uncomfortable around him. I suspect he'll be on his best behaviour for Pricey as his new ally, but he won't give a monkeys about her just as he didn't give one about Nadia.


Sorry, off on a tangent there.

Dick can mean idiot in the USA too and in the way it was used it it was clear that what it meant. Perez knew that but there is something seriously wrong with hims..from taunt alex.to having sex with the furniture .. to licking Katie H .. to his retort to Callum he turns everything into something grossly and overtly sexually offensive.

Isn't that the whole point of Big Brother? Not sure that morality is being followed but despotism is the name of the game and competitors in this gladiatoral contest are encouraged to rip up the rule books and gain advantage in what would be otherwise be labelled anti-social.

We usually ha

he's a real dangerous manipulative tw*t isn't he.

Bit harsh.

But are you not doing the same as him? Pulling him down and having no sympathy when he is bullied in the house.

No-one deserves to be bullied, ever. Full stop.

Nobody 'deserves' to be bullied but some people completely bring it on themselves.

I think the worrying part of her behaviour to me is her children are being brought up with their mother's prejudices and insulting behaviour against other people. I find it rather alarming to be honest that she see's nothing wrong in doing and saying the things she does and by going on tv and constantly in the media spewing her bile, her children are being brought up this way and possibly see nothing wrong in it as they know no different. Very worrying.