I can't stand Moffat and I cannot wait for him to get out of the way so that the show can become really good again.



The Big Bang Theory.

I don't think that adding those aspects of modern living really rounded out the character much - I think she was just as capable and substantial in episodes like Orient Express, far away from her Earth life.

I think the substance is in the examination of what it means to travel with the Doctor - it's a time and space machine, why can't someone have it all? Clara thought she'd end up having to choose between one or the other - she never realised the choice would be made for her.

But from that perspective, the thread of Series 8 wasn't who Clara was, or even so much about who she wanted to be, but about the experiences she went through. And that doesn't need to end when one story arc does.

Okay, okay, I asked for that! Fantasy or sci-fi drama show, then.

I wasn't on the forums in the old days,did RTD get the same level of criticism and pleas to leave?

I was a lurker in the late noughties and as far as I recall....yep!

Oh yes!

Then again, the next Showrunner might produce a flawless era that appeals to everybody all the time? Fandom will unite in praise, harmony will reign and they will be proclaimed Showrunner Eternal.

Think I've entered into Corporal Jones realm of fantasy.

That's weird. I quite liked RTD!

Moffat was on the boards defending the man - prior to his own abandonment of the Internet.

Hmmm. Ms Cunk, bless her, is full of wonder and awe every time she goes to the supermarket. Offer her all of Time and Space and I fear her brain would explode.




(Brooker writing an episode.....hell, yeah. That could be very interesting!)

I think it's funny how many of those on this thread clamoring for him to leave want him to still write for the show under a new showrunner. What makes you think he'll want to?
Once RTD left he was done and hasn't had any desire to write for the show again. I think Moffat will also break all ties, and then all those on here wishing he was gone, will be moaning under the next showrunner - once he inevitably comes under fire from dissatisfied fans - that he should bring Moffat back to write for the show. And if i was Moffat i would politely tell him where to stick it. Why should he reward all those fans who have been on his back the last few years? I know i wouldn't!

Incidentally, there is a very strong rumour doing the rounds on GB that Moffat has been asked by the BBC to do Series 10, mostly because they can't find a suitable replacement. Apparently, the two candidates they approached turned the job down. One was too busy with an upcoming new project and the other didn't want the hassle.

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Oh dear, shades of John Nathan-Turner . . . .

Pfft, there's never any of that

Its a shame he didn't leave with Matt, it would have been nice to have had a complete change. I pinned a lot on Moff when he took over and he initially did ok, although I think Matt's talent probably had an awful lot to do with that, he could carry some truly awful scripts.

Recently, I think Moff has got too close to it, its like he believes he is the programme (not saying it is what he thinks just how it seems to me). His ideas are becoming and more convoluted and RTDesque for loose ends and strange 'eh' moments!

Let the show grow Moff, cut the apron strings and move on.

Don't have a clue who could take over though...I'm leaning toward hoping whoever it is wont be a lifelong fan or wont come with baggage but will engage writers who have a good understanding of it.

Its quite a bucket list!

I know they're not English, but Dan Harmon or Pendleton Ward would be great show-runners for Doctor Who. Both very inventive men, capable of being experimental, but still crowd-pleasers who understand the importance of humanity in their stories. They're also very funny.

Being British isn't a prerequisite (Sidney Newman) just someone who understands but isn't necessarily trying to BE the show, if you get my drift.

Yeah I get ya.

Not really. If anything is obvious at all it's that there are always people clamouring for the showrunner to leave Doctor Who. Just because you liked him doesn't mean hundreds of others didn't.

Lots of people were saying he had ruined Doctor Who and all it stood for. They were out for his blood.

Complete random example, just the first one I found with a relevant title:
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=600363
Close your eyes and you could swear it was directed at Moffat. Except don't do that, or you won't be able to read it.

Here's some specific comments I found very familiar, regardless of the era:

MVPs.

Aah... Memories!

Some people do seem to really, honestly, genuinely believe that their opinion is the consensus, and are baffled by that not being the case!

I was just shocked because with the amount of hate Moffat has got, I just assumed that the RTD era was significantly better.

Philomena could be the next Master and Barry could be the new Davros

Didn't somebody on here say "Doesn't he look tired?" and then the next day RTD was gone?

Ah, those were the days...

In those days spirits were brave, the stakes were high, men were real men, show runners were real show runners and small, furry creatures from Alpha Centauri were real small, furry creatures from Alpha Centauri

And Whovians were glad of it.

And all boldy tried to take the TARDIS in strange, new directions it had never been before.

Life was wild, rich, and largely tax free...

In these enlightened days, of course, no-one believes a word of it...

Nah, it's always been the case that people who dislike things have more to say on the subject...