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Hopkins Fans - Please Stop Telling Me She Says What Im Thinking But Too Afraid To Say
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humpty dumpty
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by connor the judg:
“I would just like to say that I am a fan of her's in BIG BROTHER! doesn't mean I agree with her "views". Let's face it outside of the Big Brother house both her and Perez (and he is in the house ) are horrible nasty people.”

Apart from not agreeing with the majority of the ignorant, childish and ridiculous 'opinions' she holds, it's not so much what her opinion is, but more her need to voice all her negative opinions of people publicly (to demean them) and privately in the diary room for the sake of entertainment at their expense.

I may very well agree that Alicia might not be very intelligent. But I certainly don't agree with her motive for mocking Alicia publicly about it. I don't have the arrogance to predict how others love life will pan out in the future, but even if I had agreed with Katie H's mean-spirited prediction that Katy P couldn't keep a man, I think it was low for her to announce this. I may well agree that Patsy was feeling stressed in the house and sometimes found it difficult to articulate her opinions. however I'd be more inclined to feel a bit sorry for her and try to support her rather than sense her lack of assertiveness and go out my way to make her look silly. the list of examples goes on. It's not about opinions, it's about human traits such as empathy, kindness, tact and consideration versus rudeness, inconsideration and cruelness (disguised under a trait of 'honesty')

As I keep saying, although most of her 'opinions' amount to nothing more than picking negatives in others, and so many of them I disagree with anyway, it's not the main point. I can't speak for everyone, but I could guess that what the majority people dislike about her is her mean-spirited intentions, where she voices such insults/negatives about people when there is clearly no benefit or reason for it other than to demean the person it's aimed at.
LH1
01-02-2015
She says what she thinks the knobheads want to hear. Because if they like it, which they seem to, then in her mind, she can call herself successful and laugh all the way to the bank!
postit
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by humpty dumpty:
“Apart from not agreeing with the majority of the ignorant, childish and ridiculous 'opinions' she holds, it's not so much what her opinion is, but more her need to voice all her negative opinions of people publicly (to demean them) and privately in the diary room for the sake of entertainment at their expense.

I may very well agree that Alicia might not be very intelligent. But I certainly don't agree with her motive for mocking Alicia publicly about it. I don't have the arrogance to predict how others love life will pan out in the future, but even if I had agreed with Katie H's mean-spirited prediction that Katy P couldn't keep a man, I think it was low for her to announce this. I may well agree that Patsy was feeling stressed in the house and sometimes found it difficult to articulate her opinions. however I'd be more inclined to feel a bit sorry for her and try to support her rather than sense her lack of assertiveness and go out my way to make her look silly. the list of examples goes on. It's not about opinions, it's about human traits such as empathy, kindness, tact and consideration versus rudeness, inconsideration and cruelness (disguised under a trait of 'honesty')

As I keep saying, although most of her 'opinions' amount to nothing more than picking negatives in others, and so many of them I disagree with anyway, it's not the main point. I can't speak for everyone, but I could guess that what the majority people dislike about her is her mean-spirited intentions, where she voices such insults/negatives about people when there is clearly no benefit or reason for it other than to demean the person it's aimed at.”

Applause. You've just articulated everything I feel about this abhorrent woman.
Scarlet O'Hara
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by Philip_Clarke:
“If Hopkins truly wanted to say what we were all thinking, she'd scream obscenities into a mirror.”

Originally Posted by AaronWx:
“You're right she doesn't say what everybody else is thinking, she says what every other knobhead is thinking.”

to both of these posts.

Originally Posted by humpty dumpty:
“Apart from not agreeing with the majority of the ignorant, childish and ridiculous 'opinions' she holds, it's not so much what her opinion is, but more her need to voice all her negative opinions of people publicly (to demean them) and privately in the diary room for the sake of entertainment at their expense.

I may very well agree that Alicia might not be very intelligent. But I certainly don't agree with her motive for mocking Alicia publicly about it. I don't have the arrogance to predict how others love life will pan out in the future, but even if I had agreed with Katie H's mean-spirited prediction that Katy P couldn't keep a man, I think it was low for her to announce this. I may well agree that Patsy was feeling stressed in the house and sometimes found it difficult to articulate her opinions. however I'd be more inclined to feel a bit sorry for her and try to support her rather than sense her lack of assertiveness and go out my way to make her look silly. the list of examples goes on. It's not about opinions, it's about human traits such as empathy, kindness, tact and consideration versus rudeness, inconsideration and cruelness (disguised under a trait of 'honesty')

As I keep saying, although most of her 'opinions' amount to nothing more than picking negatives in others, and so many of them I disagree with anyway, it's not the main point. I can't speak for everyone, but I could guess that what the majority people dislike about her is her mean-spirited intentions, where she voices such insults/negatives about people when there is clearly no benefit or reason for it other than to demean the person it's aimed at.”

Great post, and I particularly agree with the BIB.
Trish123
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by humpty dumpty:
“Apart from not agreeing with the majority of the ignorant, childish and ridiculous 'opinions' she holds, it's not so much what her opinion is, but more her need to voice all her negative opinions of people publicly (to demean them) and privately in the diary room for the sake of entertainment at their expense.

I may very well agree that Alicia might not be very intelligent. But I certainly don't agree with her motive for mocking Alicia publicly about it. I don't have the arrogance to predict how others love life will pan out in the future, but even if I had agreed with Katie H's mean-spirited prediction that Katy P couldn't keep a man, I think it was low for her to announce this. I may well agree that Patsy was feeling stressed in the house and sometimes found it difficult to articulate her opinions. however I'd be more inclined to feel a bit sorry for her and try to support her rather than sense her lack of assertiveness and go out my way to make her look silly. the list of examples goes on. It's not about opinions, it's about human traits such as empathy, kindness, tact and consideration versus rudeness, inconsideration and cruelness (disguised under a trait of 'honesty')

As I keep saying, although most of her 'opinions' amount to nothing more than picking negatives in others, and so many of them I disagree with anyway, it's not the main point. I can't speak for everyone, but I could guess that what the majority people dislike about her is her mean-spirited intentions, where she voices such insults/negatives about people when there is clearly no benefit or reason for it other than to demean the person it's aimed at.”

Great post humpty..... you have restored my faith in humanity single handedly. Well done.
connor the judg
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by Dexter Fan1:
“No because bullying is actually happening. I made that perfectly clean in your other thread.”

And so are threats of Rape so as long as you keep using the word "bullying" I will keep using the word "rape".
connor the judg
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by AaronWx:
“You're right she doesn't say what everybody else is thinking, she says what every other knobhead is thinking.”

Maybe outside the house but not inside. Are you calling me a Knobhead for thinking that?
Monty_Brewster
01-02-2015
She's right abut overweight people. Only people are disagree are overweight people. And don't spout some nonsense about thyroid.

No-one was ever stranded then found on a deserted island being fat.
reader123
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by Monty_Brewster:
“She's right abut overweight people. Only people are disagree are overweight people. And don't spout some nonsense about thyroid.

No-one was ever stranded then found on a deserted island being fat.”

What a close minded and distorted view on overweight people. There are some medical conditions that make people gain weight, in fact a lot of conditions are tested because of weight gain such as Cushings Syndrome.
RabidWolverine1
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by Monty_Brewster:
“She's right abut overweight people. Only people are disagree are overweight people. And don't spout some nonsense about thyroid.

No-one was ever stranded then found on a deserted island being fat.”

Wow trying to think of a more narrow minded post...nope

I don't have to be a different race to have problems with Racism

I don't have to be overweight to have a problem with comments made about the overweight.
reader123
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by RabidWolverine1:
“Wow trying to think of a more narrow minded post...nope

I don't have to be a different race to have problems with Racism

I don't have to be overweight to have a problem with comments made about the overweight.”

Eloquently put.
RabidWolverine1
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by reader123:
“Eloquently put.”

Thanks
humpty dumpty
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by Trish123:
“Great post humpty..... you have restored my faith in humanity single handedly. Well done.”

Thanks Trish

Folk keep banging on about her 'right to have an opinion' or her 'honesty' or how right/ wrong her opinion is....which hasn't much to do with what people really dislike about her, especially inside the house.

Its got more to do with her mean and cruel nature, which she has shown throughout her time in the house - if not by deliberately trying to ostracise them, by continually seeking out flaws or weaknesses in them and publicly embarrassing/demeaning them for no good reason. Whether it's because she is nasty enough to just enjoy putting others down, or she only does it 'for show' - both options show her to be unkind and rude.
SnowStorm86
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by Monty_Brewster:
“She's right abut overweight people. Only people are disagree are overweight people. And don't spout some nonsense about thyroid.

No-one was ever stranded then found on a deserted island being fat.”

Here we witness an insight into the rationale of a Hopkins fan.

Yes, it is probably the single most irksome sound bite of the series, being told that Hopkins is just saying what I am thinking.
MistyEyes321
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by RabidWolverine1:
“If you agree with what she says on Nurses who try and help with Aid on Ebola, Or Palestinians, Or Overweight People, Or Ginger People Or Northern People...Then that's on you.

Don't try and generalise it to suit your needs of making a point, she does not in any way shape or form say what im thinking. If I seriously thought any of those things about other people id slam my head in a car door.

I know its not all Hopkins fans so apologies to those who have not said this, this isn't aimed at you.

The amount of posts though that make this ridicilous staement is unbelievable. Since when is anyone on here qualified to tell anyone what they are thinking.

You find her views "Funny" or "Tongue in Cheek" Or "Honest"...good for you. You go along with that but don't take some non existent moral high ground claiming we just won't admit to believing it. Its just beyond boring now.

Others have echoed this before, I just can't believe it needs to be said. It should jsut be known she doesn't speak for everybody

Support her all you want...but its on you and leave us to support whoever we want. ”

Are all these thing listed above been said while Katie H is in the house?..I haven't heard her say them!

But I can assure you & anyone else who is interested, Katie H doesn't speak for me. Never has done never will do.

I like Katie H, that isn't because I am stupid far from it..I also don't have to justify myself because I like someone some FM don't,

I don't tell anyone else who to support or not Support, I also don't go on threads insulting FM. I am just supporting who I want, It doesn't mean I have the wrong mind set or lack morals..It just means I like Kate H oh & Perez!
Flowes
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by humpty dumpty:
“Thanks Trish

Folk keep banging on about her 'right to have an opinion' or her 'honesty' or how right/ wrong her opinion is....which hasn't much to do with what people really dislike about her, especially inside the house.

Its got more to do with her mean and cruel nature, which she has shown throughout her time in the house - if not by deliberately trying to ostracise them, by continually seeking out flaws or weaknesses in them and publicly embarrassing/demeaning them for no good reason. Whether it's because she is nasty enough to just enjoy putting others down, or she only does it 'for show' - both options show her to be unkind and rude.”

You've hit the nail on the head. Honest doesn't equal negative yet all her opinions are negative thereby given her an excuse to be mean.
yogacats
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by RabidWolverine1:
“If you agree with what she says on Nurses who try and help with Aid on Ebola, Or Palestinians, Or Overweight People, Or Ginger People Or Northern People...Then that's on you.

Don't try and generalise it to suit your needs of making a point, she does not in any way shape or form say what im thinking. If I seriously thought any of those things about other people id slam my head in a car door.

I know its not all Hopkins fans so apologies to those who have not said this, this isn't aimed at you.

The amount of posts though that make this ridicilous staement is unbelievable. Since when is anyone on here qualified to tell anyone what they are thinking.

You find her views "Funny" or "Tongue in Cheek" Or "Honest"...good for you. You go along with that but don't take some non existent moral high ground claiming we just won't admit to believing it. Its just beyond boring now.

Others have echoed this before, I just can't believe it needs to be said. It should jsut be known she doesn't speak for everybody

Support her all you want...but its on you and leave us to support whoever we want. ”


Stands up and claps !
kimindex
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by Flowes:
“You've hit the nail on the head. Honest doesn't equal negative yet all her opinions are negative thereby given her an excuse to be mean.”

Yes, no one ever says 'I tell it like it us and you're bloomin' wonderful'.
Dizzle
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by amyawake:
“I wonder how many Hopkins fans fully embrace all the many targets Hopkins has vocalised on...

http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrit...ements-3787639”

So to support somebody on a television show you must agree with every opinion they have ever expressed in their lifetime? Got it.
BellaRosa
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by gulliverfoyle:
“is that you Nadia?

CALL THE POLICE!”

emmaxxs
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by connor the judg:
“And so are threats of Rape so as long as you keep using the word "bullying" I will keep using the word "rape".”

But why?
gcmac
01-02-2015
The problem is the Katie thinks she is saying what everyone else is thinking and that she is being the voice for them. She says the world would be a better place if more people were upfront and said what they thought like she does, yet if anyone does say what they think like Keith, Nadia and Katie P she puts them down and disagrees with them. I think it is a skill to be able to think before you speak and analyse whether you are saying something which will hurt others, if it's not necessary then why say it? She says things for effect, and a lot of what she says is just nasty. If she has an opinion on people with ginger hair or those from the north I don't believe that is an opinion that is necessary to be voiced, what does she want to happen by saying these things other than to hurt or anger people.
sandy_53
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by Monty_Brewster:
“She's right abut overweight people. Only people are disagree are overweight people. And don't spout some nonsense about thyroid.

No-one was ever stranded then found on a deserted island being fat.”

God you`re ignorant. Look what it says on the NHS Choices website about hypothyroidism (underactive thyroid as you probably don`t know),
Scarlet O'Hara
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by Monty_Brewster:
“She's right abut overweight people. Only people are disagree are overweight people. And don't spout some nonsense about thyroid.

No-one was ever stranded then found on a deserted island being fat.”

As someone with hypothyroidism, I'd be dead long before I was found on that desert island.
viva.espana
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by RabidWolverine1:
“I know its not all Hopkins fans so apologies to those who have not said this, this isn't aimed at you.”

What do you think about people like me that find her surprisingly entertaining on CBB and find her far more interesting to observe than most of the other HMs?

Do you think I'm being fooled? Do you think I must be liking her/finding her entertaining because I loathe someone she also loathes? I do loathe Perez Hilton, for the record, but I actually find her obsession/interaction with him the least entertaining bit about her as a HM.

I'm just asking, BTW, not being confrontational or aggressive.
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