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Michelle says Perez is playing the victim
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SwanGirl
01-02-2015
I think Perez IS playing the victim but at the same time I find so much hypocrisy in practically everything Michelle spouts off about now. One minute she's telling everyone how she stands up for the weak and fights people's causes and the next she is saying how people need to take care of themselves and how she hates people who are victims. She's tied herself up in knots the further this has gone on, I think she knows damn well that Katie H has gone too far at times and now she is trying to distance herself a little from her and pal up more with Katie P. She's one of the biggest gameplayers in there and I was a fool to be taken in by her for the first week or so, ggrrr!
danyell
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by Lucypher:
“You're wrong. They were all saying that he isolates himself. He does. He set this all up. It's 'The Perez Show' don't forget. He's maintained all the way through that he has the power, that he's in control.

So that being the case, he got exactly what he wanted because he's had the power. Or was 'power' another word for 'Nadia'?”

Maybe he's isolating himself because he knows the others won't have a bar of him. And besides he's not really isolating himself all the time. He still talks to Kieth and Pricey. Plus he was trying to join in with the drunk stories. So I'm not really wrong if you think about it!
uberman
01-02-2015
He's had his head pecked in by Hopkins evil beak of hate 🐔
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Melax
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by Blondie X:
“I agree. He only cares about himself and doesn't care how he affects others as long as HE gets the attention and he can bang on about how it's The Perez Show. I believe he's genuinely upset now but it;s self pitying tears because his gameplan has gone t*ts up and he's weeping for himself.

I am a really caring, compassionate person who bends over backwards for other people but I feel like I must have a heart of stone as far as he's concerned as I can't even muster even the tiniest bit of sympathy for someone who has been such an architect of their own downfall”

Perez the 36 year old manchild who bullies and belittles celebrities on his blog for a living, is now being held up as a victim of bullying? hilarious. He deserves all he gets, and more.
hendoll
01-02-2015
So WHY doesn't anyone challenge him on this?? WHY?
irishcyke
01-02-2015
Ohhh noes, the most notorious bully on the internet is being excluded because he behaved like a nasty piece of sh*t. So sad, too bad.

He's playing the sympathy card, of course he is, even his fans know it. Everything he's done in that house since day 1 has been utterly calculated starting from publicly calling Hopkins out about sleeping with a married man. He knew she was hated and was trying to capitalize on that, until it backfired on him.

If you think he isn't i worry for your skills of perception because they are non-existant.
Blondie X
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by Melax:
“Perez the 36 year old manchild who bullies and belittles celebrities on his blog for a living, is now being held up as a victim of bullying? hilarious. He deserves all he gets, and more.”

Did you mean to quote my post s I didn't say he was any of those things?
Melax
01-02-2015
Did he ever buy those 2 apartments in the same block as Lady Gaga just so he could ramp his harassment campaign against her up a few twisted notches? Weirdo.
Scamps8
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by kissitbetta:
“She is right. He IS playing the victim.”

Yes he is. Thinks the public will fall for it.
hendoll
01-02-2015
So WHY doesn't anyone challenge him on this?? WHY? They could either play him at his own game and make friends with him and indulge him until his heads spins off in confusion or they could just call him out on playing the victim and challenge him outright?

How is it that nobody seems prepared to do this? They just huddle around bitching about him. It's pathetic!
Melax
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by Scamps8:
“Yes he is. Thinks the public will fall for it.”

They are falling for it though. I don't think I can carry on watching a show that seems to have an abundance of gullible people also watching. Guilt by association and all that.
vald
01-02-2015
Oh, if Michelle says so it must be true. Did she come to that conclusion on her own, because she's not known for being an independent thinker.
jobielad
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by uberman:
“Notice how almost everything Michelle said as the clairvoyant was just repeating everything Hopkins has said to her about ppl.”

Why would anyone want to do that? Don't people have choice????
Nearly New
01-02-2015
It is possible for Perez to both play the victim AND actually be a victim at the same time you know. They are not mutually exclusive.

If Hopkins wishes for Perez to be isolated from everybody in the house and succeeds does that not make him a 'victim' by her design?
Paul237
01-02-2015
I don't listen to anything she says anymore. She literally never, ever disagrees with Katie Hopkins. Ever.

I thought she was meant to be strong and ballsy. Yet there was a scene in tonight's episode where Hopkins was just ranting on and on... Michelle just kept saying "I agree", without actually contributing anything.

Really disappointed in her.
Rhumbatugger
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by hendoll:
“So WHY doesn't anyone challenge him on this?? WHY? They could either play him at his own game and make friends with him and indulge him until his heads spins off in confusion or they could just call him out on playing the victim and challenge him outright?

How is it that nobody seems prepared to do this? They just huddle around bitching about him. It's pathetic!”

They'd be 'bullying' him, having a go, there would be escalation as that's what he specialises in. It would end up in vile verbally sexual abuse and him calling victim.

Calum only asked him not to turn the light on and look what he got.
Silent Scream
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by irishcyke:
“Ohhh noes, the most notorious bully on the internet is being excluded because he behaved like a nasty piece of sh*t. So sad, too bad.

He's playing the sympathy card, of course he is, even his fans know it. Everything he's done in that house since day 1 has been utterly calculated starting from publicly calling Hopkins out about sleeping with a married man. He knew she was hated and was trying to capitalize on that, until it backfired on him.

If you think he isn't i worry for your skills of perception because they are non-existant.”

I would like to know how your immense powers of perception failed to notice Hopkins being 50 times worse than Perez did you just miss half the show or was the part of your brain that handles perception simply on holiday or merely non-existent?

He has been a pain in the arse but NOTHING like the constantly vile abusive Hopkins who should have had several warnings by now but has had none at all. But sure, if you want to take great joy out of seeing someone completely isolated go right ahead. Whatever your view of Perez is, revelling in someone's abject misery because they were a bit of a clown in the house really is nothing to be proud of.
Rhumbatugger
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by Nearly New:
“It is possible for Perez to both play the victim AND actually be a victim at the same time you know. They are not mutually exclusive.

If Hopkins wishes for Perez to be isolated from everybody in the house and succeeds does that not make him a 'victim' by her design?”

No.

She might wish it, but if Perez himself organizes it by the sort of thing he did tonight to Cami Li and Kav who were trying to help him, then HE is doing it and pretending to be HER victim, when he isn't at all.
droogiefret
01-02-2015
Things are never completely straightforward. Michelle went into the house with an agenda - very much feeling she was there to represent her people to the best of her ability. Now, potentially, Perez is one of her people - but she feels he has let himself down - is a very bad role model. So she needs to distance herself from him as much as she can.

So whereas in Hopkins case her dislike of Perez seems, at least in part, to stem from a need not to share the limelight, in Michelle's case there is a clear political agenda.
uberman
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by jobielad:
“Why would anyone want to do that? Don't people have choice????”

Of course they do, Michelle chose to kiss up to parrot face.
Rhumbatugger
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by Melax:
“They are falling for it though. I don't think I can carry on watching a show that seems to have an abundance of gullible people also watching. Guilt by association and all that.”

It's sort of creepily worrying isn't it.
uberman
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by Melax:
“They are falling for it though. I don't think I can carry on watching a show that seems to have an abundance of gullible people also watching. Guilt by association and all that.”

I know what you mean, Hopkins has fooled a lot of ppl.
CrashDavis
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by SwanGirl:
“I think Perez IS playing the victim but at the same time I find so much hypocrisy in practically everything Michelle spouts off about now. One minute she's telling everyone how she stands up for the weak and fights people's causes and the next she is saying how people need to take care of themselves and how she hates people who are victims. She's tied herself up in knots the further this has gone on, I think she knows damn well that Katie H has gone too far at times and now she is trying to distance herself a little from her and pal up more with Katie P. She's one of the biggest gameplayers in there and I was a fool to be taken in by her for the first week or so, ggrrr!”

You know, I might actually dislike her more than Hopkins. At least with Katie you kinda know where you stand, but with Michelle it's farcical the lengths to which she will go to maintain her position within the house - and up Hopkins ar%e - in order to avoid nominations and coast to the final. And then to continue that tiresome spiel now and again about representing and fighting for the...zzzzz. Such a gameplayer
vald
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by Melax:
“They are falling for it though. I don't think I can carry on watching a show that seems to have an abundance of gullible people also watching. Guilt by association and all that.”

BIB You do know there's a multitude of posters who thinks Katie Hopkins is amazing. now that's gullible
ah But
01-02-2015
Strange that he picks a night when people are talking to him to try and play the victim. Probably no more than booze talking. Now he's not playing up to the camera watch how people start to have more to do with him. This is why KH didn't want him indulged when acting up so that he would be himself. Of course in my opinion.
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