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king_kong1
01-02-2015
I can't believe people have sympathy for a guy that has been acting a **** for the past 3 weeks, goes around saying he doesn't care what people think about him and threatened to rape someone.
Flowes
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by Miss Con Strue:
“It highlights the difference between him and Hopkins. They are both annoying, but Hopkins thrives on hate and discord and Perez, who is desperate to be loved, is destroyed by it. I thought I saw a glimmer of compassion in Cami's eyes when he was talking, but it looks like her and Kav ran back to the ugly sisters to report all.”

I thought I saw something sinking in with Cami Li but found it interesting that she and Kav brushed of KHs questions. I think he struck a ciord with them and they removed themselves because they were uncomfortable because what he said was true.
Scarlet O'Hara
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“That broke my heart a little bit. Just because someone goes OTT playing the fool doesn't make them immune from having real feelings.

They have been heartless ...........I feel for Perez


Bet Nadias at home crying her eyes out.”

Nadia is busy reading 'The Psychopath Inside'...there's a photo of her on her husband's Twitter.

I wonder who that was a reference to....? *scratches head*
Vicky8675309
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“Yep ................living in a house for over three weeks 24/7 with no escape and every one persecutes/hates/ostracises you - it's mental cruelty.

He's a bit of a knob but .............he isn't super human. That'd get to anyone.”

What is sad is that you can "break" a human in a few days so 3+ weeks is a LONG time. He really hasn't done anything vicious or horrible. Sure, he can be OTT and can bite back verbally when insulted but the most malicious thing he ever did was intentionally cough near Alex at 6:30 am. Compare that to the isolation and insults…. I must be missing something since simulated sex dancing in the garden is funny and responding back to an insult with an insults is ok in my book. Sure he could of refrained from responding to insults but he had tried that already when KH kept attacking and attacking…that didn't work in the past so he attacked back with Callum insulted him. Then Perez gets a warning and they ignore Callum's attempt at getting physical (Cami held him back) and Callum even told BB he wanted to physically hurt him outside the house. I must be watching a different show.

Originally Posted by Paul237:
“The irony is amusing.

People say they hate Perez because he is vile.

Then they pour hate on him and feel gleeful when he cries. So basically vile. But it's fine when they do it. ”

The hypocrisy is astounding! I wouldn't even wish this on KH and she has come across as vile.

Originally Posted by fredster:
“Exactly, are people forgetting how awful he has been. Spoilt BB for a lot of people.”

It is The Perez Show and that is all anyone can talk about. He made the show interesting this season. The two days he was in the hidden bedroom where boring and all any of the housemates could talk about was Perez
too_much_coffee
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by Captain Kipper:
“Are you people being serious? your buying his nonsense? lol”

Originally Posted by jeanoj:
“Give that man an Oscar! Professional victim if ever I saw one.”

When I started reading this thread I thought that people were being sarcastic because it was so obvious that he was playing the game.

But they're serious!!!!

I am messaging them all right now for their bank account details to help me with an inheritance from my millionaire uncle...
chachachavvy
01-02-2015
I constantly see claims that Perez 'brings things on himself', 'goads people' and 'winds people up' but I don't see what he does to merit these claims. He seems to wind certain housemates up by existing, daring to enjoy himself, refusing to be suppressed by KH and not knuckling under to her regime. The minions ostracise him because they don't want to make themselves a target and because they secretly feel ashamed of their own obsequiousness towards KH.
Scarlet O'Hara
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by king_kong1:
“I can't believe people have sympathy for a guy that has been acting a **** for the past 3 weeks, goes around saying he doesn't care what people think about him and threatened to rape someone.”

And I can't believe you support the hateful Katie Hopkins.

You say "potato", I say "pota..", well I say potato too but you get my drift.
Addisonian
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by Shane_Coupe_Art:
“Hes drunk and feeling sorry for himself because nadia not there to defend his ass.. If hes not that happy he can walk out the door”

Exactly. If he really feels so bad then he knows where the door is.
But he doesn't - he's simply in 'victim' mode and will likely be loving every minute of this next stage of the CBB 'journey'.
dekaf
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by Rhumbatugger:
“Well they tried to help and he told them he didn't give a SHIT what they thought or said, so...

I dont' think he really wanted their help do you? He wanted to be all alone to do his performance to camera.

And it was embarrassingly bad and obviously calculated.”


Yep, yep, and yep.
Koll
01-02-2015
It's pretty terrible when someone plainly states their wish for someone else to be isolated and succeeds in turning almost everyone else against that person. Even more terrible when it comes from an almost 40 year old woman. I honestly feel sorry for her.

Her little sheep Cami and Kavana aren't much better. How much of a follower do you have to be to be sucked in by Hopkin's hatred? Maybe it comes from not having a personality of their own, but they are as pathetic as Hopkins in my eyes.

Yup it's pretty easy to feel sorry for Perez. I can't tell if some other people in this thread are just blind or lack empathy. Never mind.
SG-1
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by zelda fan:
“Viewers don't want to believe the housemates have more than one side to them sadly.”

I find BB fascinating is because it brings out many sides of a housemate..only the HM that continually hides in the shadows can get away with not having all sides of them brought out.
What we saw from Perez in his drunken sadness was real feelings and raw emotions.
Angie_Plasty
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by Flowes:
“I thought I saw something sinking in with Cami Li but found it interesting that she and Kav brushed of KHs questions. I think he struck a ciord with them and they removed themselves because they were uncomfortable because what he said was true.”

Yes, I think for a moment they saw him as a human being and saw the consequences of their treatment of him and they felt bad.
jobielad
01-02-2015
One scene that told it all tonight was all of the housemates chatting together and Perez was included. KH has been fine with him because her and Michelle are right his enabler has gone and they see he could be better now. We have seen him spend time with KP and Keith and he was involved with the others in the task. The camera goes to quite a vital part where you can actually see Cami and Kav really listening to him and I am sure in her eyes Cami shows that she is feeling sorry for him when he is talking about how it feels to be lonely in the house but then Perez overplays it and starts blaming KH. At that point Cami and Kav - kindly without being directly unkind to Perez walk off not wanting to listen anymore. This is the crux of the matter. KH has been ok with him, not too harsh today and yet Perez tries to blame instead of seeing that all of the HMs will be fine with him if he modifies his behaviour, stops the game playing and just be real. Perez may or may not be lonely I don't know but being alone isn't new for him. He is one of the most despised men in America by celebrities - A list ones included because of his blogs and he says he has no friends in that circle at all. Loneliness isn't new for him and I am sure he will survive his long term life strategy. I believe him when he says he really doesn't care about people in the house and the public. He means that bit for sure
SULLA
01-02-2015
Hilton. Far too much Hilton.

There are other people in there Big Brother.
Scarlet O'Hara
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by Paul237:
“The irony is amusing.

People say they hate Perez because he is vile.

Then they pour hate on him and feel gleeful when he cries. So basically vile. But it's fine when they do it. ”

Spot on, sir.

The stuff I've seen written about him on DS is way beyond anything he's done in that house...like him deserving a beating, being as bad as Fred West, etc.

He once coughed at 6.30 to wake people up, danced provocatively, stared at someone, made tongue gestures, blew kisses and finally, after a week of abuse, started arguing back and throwing a few insults out himself. Whoop di bloody doo.
zelda fan
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by SG-1:
“I find BB fascinating is because it brings out many sides of a housemate..only the HM that continually hides in the shadows can get away with not having all sides of them brought out.
What we saw from Perez in his drunken sadness was real feelings and raw emotions.”

Agreed i love to see different aspects of the housemates even those i dislike. I personally blame CH5s way of editing the highlights in a story driven way for the reason why viewers now see "characters" where they used to see people.
too_much_coffee
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by Flowes:
“I thought I saw something sinking in with Cami Li but found it interesting that she and Kav brushed of KHs questions. I think he struck a ciord with them and they removed themselves because they were uncomfortable because what he said was true.”

and as soon as the others went to bed then he wished sickness on them??? Really nice guy
Miss Con Strue
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by revolver44:
“I think Perez has made this series. To me in many ways he's been the Ultimate Housemate. I could never share the same space as him, he'd drive me to drink, but he has entertained me on this show possibly more than any other celeb in it's history. But no way am I falling for that performance tonight. Perez is upping the ante now, he knows it's the endgame and he's pulling out all the cards. But that's why I like him, he's the ultimate contestant in what is a game show.”

I agree with most of what you said, except that I think the upset we say tonight was real. I wouldn't mind at all if Perez wins, not because I like him, but that he has been such an intriguing HM.
Whitiamin
01-02-2015
Sympathy for this revolting, depraved and manipulative oik...... I don't think so.
Menk
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by SG-1:
“Let me get you drunk and feeling sorry for yourself then lets see if you can still fake your feelings like that.
WTH is so difficult to believe that the clown and obnoxious loud housemate also has feelings and insecurities?”

Exactly. It was pissed up shit, just as Kav said, but it wasn't an act.
zelda fan
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by Whitiamin:
“Sympathy for this revolting, depraved and manipulative oik...... I don't think so.”

Hopkins you are not supposed to be on the internet while you are in the house.
Scarlet O'Hara
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by too_much_coffee:
“and as soon as the others went to bed then he wished sickness on them??? Really nice guy ”

I thought that was really funny.

To me, it's that infantile stuff that makes him comical. I doubt he actually meant it, any more than KH genuinely wished for him and KP to experience pain during the letters task.
zelda fan
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by Scarlet O'Hara:
“I thought that was really funny.

To me, it's that infantile stuff that makes him comical. I doubt he actually meant it, any more than KH genuinely wished for him and KP to experience pain during the letters task.”

I laughed as well we must be bad people.
revolver44
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by Miss Con Strue:
“I agree with most of what you said, except that I think the upset we say tonight was real. I wouldn't mind at all if Perez wins, not because I like him, but that he has been such an intriguing HM.”

Fair point, I probably would have felt the same if he hadn't thrown in the line about it being more upsetting than the death of his father. C'mon, that's ridiculous
Flowes
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by Scarlet O'Hara:
“I thought that was really funny.

To me, it's that infantile stuff that makes him comical. I doubt he actually meant it, any more than KH genuinely wished for him and KP to experience pain during the letters task.”

Ditto
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