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Perez genuinely feels hurt.
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amyawake
02-02-2015
Originally Posted by Saffron787:
“how come when anyone criticises Perez, they are immediately presumed to be in the Hopkins camp?”

Er...your comment was that he has made a fortune offending people...Hopkins has done that too! (Not any of the others). So I just asked if you would also say that about her.
amyawake
02-02-2015
Originally Posted by sandy50:
“Who has she 'upset' ?
She's got upset over Perez's taunting of Alexander, and that looked pretty genuine to me, but everything Perez does seems calculated and for effect, it's hard to take anything Perez does seriously, because he's said he does give a f about what the HMs think of him or what the public think ! I've not heard anyone else in there say that - so no wonder he gets the reaction he does in there.”

You are quoting the wrong post or answering a different question. I was replying to Saffron787 saying that Perez makes a fortune from offending people so I asked would they say that about Hopkins too (have you read her column)?
sandy50
02-02-2015
Originally Posted by postit:
“It isn't YOUR thread. Be careful, hubris will take it's toll eventually, as hopkins will eventually find out ”

oh ...and great word - hubris
sandy50
02-02-2015
Originally Posted by amyawake:
“You are quoting the wrong post or answering a different question. I was replying to Saffron787 saying that Perez makes a fortune from offending people so I asked would they say that about Hopkins too (have you read her column)? ”

oh right amy- no I don't read her column, or twitter , I just hear about what she's said here and there as you do. I still think she's a great HM, along with some of the others, - I don't think it's about liking them though.
amyawake
02-02-2015
Originally Posted by postit:
“Fear not, you're not alone. I won't be watching any further BB after this series. I really don't find hatred entertaining.”

I fully understand this. I will see who is selected to go in the BB house and then decide whether to watch or not. There has been too much dumbing down of late, e.g. Charlotte Crosby and Helen Woods both surprising (and somewhat disturbing) winners. They do not represent good role models but reflect the more seedy end of what society can offer. If Hopkins wins it will be giving bullies and bigots a field day!
sinbad22uk
02-02-2015
Originally Posted by Kay2000:
“He's been a idiot, I liken him to an over excited child, but he's not been cruel to anyone, unlike others in that house. They should have done what they all said they would do in the beginning, which was to ignore his silly behaviour, but Hopkins despite all her demands, couldn't actually do it. She goaded and poked Perez in the hope of getting a reaction, more often than not he was able to rise above it, but it never stopped her trying. Imo it's Hopkins that's the disgusting human being. I would rather be aboard Perezs fun train, than under Hopkins dictatorship.”

Are you Alicia in disguise? People are so far in cloud cuckoo land they don't remember his behavior towards the 2 OAP's Ken and Alexander
sandy50
02-02-2015
Originally Posted by zabe:
“Awwwwww diddums....did a grown man pushing 40, with a child of his own, need to be comforted because someone didn't swallow his lies? Maybe if he followed the "treat others as you would wish to be treated" philosophy he wouldn't have got that reaction.

Did he comfort any of the HMs after he' done and said things he now claims to regret....NO! Did he comfort the people whose lives he destroyed, the people he outed and called "faggots" or the children he hurt publishing his nasty, hateful comments whilst posting pics of their intimate body areas in his column.......NO! So I wouldn't be so hypocritical as to comfort him either.”

That's a very good point. And he's been on the receiving end a ridiculous number amount of times during his career, and is pretty loathed by a hell of a lot of people as a result of his verbal abuse !! So it's pretty small fry to him what's going on in that house !

He can dish it out , but can't take it, which is a saying I don't really like much,but in this case it is so very true. In the House Perez's overly dramatic antics while he takes the fun train on his own, amusing himself at every stop he takes at each HM who are his victims ............has now backfired, and now he seeks attention by behaving vulnerable and alone..........There are some in there like pretty kind and tolerant Kav, who are giving him the time, as is Keith,so it will all blow over soon,and Perez may well try and join the group and stop being a sulker.
amyawake
02-02-2015
Originally Posted by zabe:
“Awwwwww diddums....did a grown man pushing 40, with a child of his own, need to be comforted because someone didn't swallow his lies? Maybe if he followed the "treat others as you would wish to be treated" philosophy he wouldn't have got that reaction.

Did he comfort any of the HMs after he' done and said things he now claims to regret....NO! Did he comfort the people whose lives he destroyed, the people he outed and called "faggots" or the children he hurt publishing his nasty, hateful comments whilst posting pics of their intimate body areas in his column.......NO! So I wouldn't be so hypocritical as to comfort him either.”

The HMs may not know about his behaviour outside so it is unfair to drag that into the frame as reasons why he should be shunned. Admittedly it is hard to console someone like him. I don't like him either actually but, along with many here, dislike seeing someone suffering.
amyawake
02-02-2015
Originally Posted by Hicky:
“I see he has you kidded as well, can't you see his plan / act, he's very clever.

Do you really believe he could be upset, please, it's an act, a very clever one.”

I am sorry you are so cold and cynical as to not even contemplate that he could possibly have a genuine emotion in the house. Yes he acts and plans...does that mean he is totally fake all the time? Of course not! If you know BB well, then you would do well to acknowledge that HMs repeatedly say it is impossible to be fake for long in there.

The context of what occurred last night is that he had been drinking (rare I think) and it could well be the come down from the alcohol that left him more morose and self pitying.
sandy50
02-02-2015
Originally Posted by amyawake:
“The HMs may not know about his behaviour outside so it is unfair to drag that into the frame as reasons why he should be shunned. Admittedly it is hard to console someone like him. I don't like him either actually but, along with many here, dislike seeing someone suffering.”

Kav was really straight with Perez in the Kitchen- moving on and all that.....
But remember what Katie and Michelle said..>>>>>>>>>>Perez knows whatever he does , gets aired the next night,,they thought he was up to something,and if that something was the sympathy card, crying etc in corners, he's fooling you !! I think that was all orchestrated to get him out the House tonight..............just sayin............
bookcover
02-02-2015
Originally Posted by amyawake:
“Er...your comment was that he has made a fortune offending people...Hopkins has done that too! (Not any of the others). So I just asked if you would also say that about her.”

A good point IMO.

Considering this game show only allows people to see 1/24th of what actually occurs in the house, we are left reliant on what these people are like outside of the house.

And Katie H has allowed us to see more of her then the others as far as offending is concerned.

I cannot comment on this Perez chap...I have never heard of him before.
zabe
02-02-2015
Originally Posted by amyawake:
“The HMs may not know about his behaviour outside so it is unfair to drag that into the frame as reasons why he should be shunned. Admittedly it is hard to console someone like him. I don't like him either actually but, along with many here, dislike seeing someone suffering.”

I hate genuine suffering too.....but in his case I really think this is an act, maybe even the final act in the drama that has been the self styled "The Perez Show"
Gloria Fandango
02-02-2015
Originally Posted by zabe:
“I hate genuine suffering too.....but in his case I really think this is an act, maybe even the final act in the drama that has been the self styled "The Perez Show"”

I agree with all of the above - I just don't think P Hilton is genuine in any way.
bookcover
02-02-2015
Originally Posted by zabe:
“Indeed Sandy, you're far too intelligent, fair minded and eloquent to stoop to his/her level!”

I am a big hairy a*sed bloke, who is a sucker for Psychology.
amyawake
02-02-2015
Originally Posted by sandy50:
“Kav was really straight with Perez in the Kitchen- moving on and all that.....
But remember what Katie and Michelle said..>>>>>>>>>>Perez knows whatever he does , gets aired the next night,,they thought he was up to something,and if that something was the sympathy card, crying etc in corners, he's fooling you !! I think that was all orchestrated to get him out the House tonight..............just sayin............”

Oh come on...that cuts both ways...Hopkins hams it up too for effect. She even quickly looks directly at the camera now and then. Sorry that so many FMs here seem to lack the criteria for differentiating genuine from fake emotions.

He could have faked the tears in the DR if it were for effect...as it was, he was quiety sobbing only on descending the stairs and with his hood up!!!
BellaRosa
02-02-2015
Originally Posted by Philip_Clarke:
“She doesn't even use his name anymore does she. Referring to him only as 'nobhead'. And no one says anything.”

We heard her use that once! We do not know what Perez calls her behind her back... as they are not showing us everything. maybe they all call him that. It is possible.
sandy50
02-02-2015
Originally Posted by sinbad22uk:
“Are you Alicia in disguise? People are so far in cloud cuckoo land they don't remember his behavior towards the 2 OAP's Ken and Alexander”

This is so true - and didn't the HMs have to tell him to leave the girls (Cloe and Cami)alone at one point too ? regardless...........Even Perez tells BB he can't see what he's done that would cause offence , he is a right ol tough individual with no self control switch as to what he says and who to - so I don't buy this vulnerable sensitive crying in the corner alone act he's done, - he did it when Katie Price went in to the House too. We saw that Perez had removed himself from the group and was sitting under the stairs on his own sulking. My guess is, and is Perez wants to be popular in the UK , and he's worried he's blown it ! But no doubt he'll be hot property for the tabloids when he gets out and his agent will be inundated.,as that's how it goes.
sandy50
02-02-2015
Originally Posted by BellaRosa:
“ We heard her use that once! We do not know what Perez calls her behind her back... as they are not showing us everything. maybe they all call him that. It is possible.”

She's used it once last night (that we were shown) when they were in the bedroom and Perez was then shown leaving DR and crying under the stairs. He refers to her as b*tch, so it's just two b*tchy school kids namecalling in the playground really isn't it. Oh............and Katie H has called him a turnip. of all the vegetables.
bookcover
02-02-2015
Originally Posted by BellaRosa:
“ We heard her use that once! We do not know what Perez calls her behind her back... as they are not showing us everything. maybe they all call him that. It is possible.”

Yes you are right about not knowing the whole story, the public only see a tiny amount of what actually goes on.

Its just condensed voyeurism...there is always a danger of getting half a story when eavesdropping on a part conversation.

Hence why I do not understand how so many swift and brutal judgements are being made on the most strangest snippets of what? nothing but bullying and weirdness, such as a "Freak Show"
sandy50
02-02-2015
Originally Posted by amyawake:
“Oh come on...that cuts both ways...Hopkins hams it up too for effect. She even quickly looks directly at the camera now and then. Sorry that so many FMs here seem to lack the criteria for differentiating genuine from fake emotions.

He could have faked the tears in the DR if it were for effect...as it was, he was quiety sobbing only on descending the stairs and with his hood up!!!”

Again...........as I said, ...........he knew it would be aired tonight !
Eviction's tonight, he says he wants to go now, so gameplan B was in motion as of yesterday
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He also said in the Diary Room before he went downstairs to cry, or appear to be...that he wanted to make it to Final and last 4. yet he's been saying he wants to leave for a while. He can't quite make up his mind can he.
white tigress
02-02-2015
Originally Posted by riverside 57:
“Are you for real, OP? What exactly does this plonker expect after the way he has behaved right from the start?? And he keeps on saying he doesn't care what any of them think so why is he suddenly so "hurt"? Sympathy card being pulled for votes now plain and simple. Just the next step in winning The Perez Show.”

'Perez' doesn't Exist--he's the Character created for public consumption but a true projection of narcissist 'Mario's' egomanical fury--therefore he feels Nothing! He takes every opportunity to 'swear on his child's life/father's grave', [which no sane person would do nor feel the need to do], and keeps saying he doesn't care what others/his elders/the British think as it's all about him him him. He goes into Weepy mode every time his Ego [NOT his TRUE self] gets 'pricked', but is a really lousy actor [despite him bragging he has a College Degree in Drama]. Sadly, viewers who are taken in by his AmDram histrionics are in for a horrid shock when CBB ends.
CaroUK
02-02-2015
Perez went in there with the stated aim of kettig katie out at the earliest opportunity.

Trouble is - he didn't realise he was dealing with someone who knows how to play the game much better than he does! She toys with him Letting him out - reeling him back in - and he doesn't even seem to realise she's doing it. The gameplan he went in with was the wrong one - and by teaming up with nadia (who was the only one to share his anti hopkins prejudices) and getting her booted out earlier than she should have been because he played her so expertly, he lost the only ally he had in there!

The two katies know exactly what they are doing, and what the British public are like on these shows (there's a clip of Katie h telling Perez that the more he says he wants to go home the more likely they are to keep him in - but hey - as that's been his aim (or indded he's been contracted for final according to him) he's still wailing about wanting to go....

Hopefully he will be the one to go tonight - no baying audience - just a quick swoop in by Emma to drag him out. I agree with Katie for once - he's a total Knobhead - he has upset everyone some way or another - and is playing up to the cameras!
sandy50
02-02-2015
Originally Posted by bookcover:
“I am a big hairy a*sed bloke, who is a sucker for Psychology. ”

actually you're female and I am a very attractive female .........in my own way - thanks. as indeed are all the supermodel females who post on this site (we all are dontcha know)
Conehead
02-02-2015
I believe he sincerely regrets, (for the moment), doing the show. It is not all fun, and he doesn't need the money.

I think he was attracted to the idea of being one of those celebrities, as opposed to writing about them. It was his chance to have the spotlight.

The internet analyst guy on BOTS said his popularity is down as a result of doing the show. If this is correct, Perez may stick to running his site in future. He may have got his need to show-off in public out of his system.
white tigress
02-02-2015
Originally Posted by amyawake:
“Oh come on...that cuts both ways...Hopkins hams it up too for effect. She even quickly looks directly at the camera now and then. Sorry that so many FMs here seem to lack the criteria for differentiating genuine from fake emotions.

He could have faked the tears in the DR if it were for effect...as it was, he was quiety sobbing only on descending the stairs and with his hood up!!!”

Hood was up to disguise that he couldn't produce any actual tears even with eye- rubbing, and Hiding Behind Stairs is a way to draw attention to himself. GENUINE HM's who feel distress sob quietly in the [private] toilet. He's just a cheap fake, low, scheming manipulator. Only naive young viewers would fall for his am-dram acts.
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