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really felt for Perez tonight..
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Rhumbatugger
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by postit:
“It's being effectively sent to coventry. Typical bully behaviour from Hopkins.”

But he wasn't and Kav and Cami Li were trying to help him.

And they were all normal with him during the task

He deliberately engineered being on his own at the end and that was the only time he was alone.
jobielad
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by Rhumbatugger:
“Keith and KP talk to him and Kav and Cami Li were listening to him.

He bored the shit out of the first two and told the last two that he didn't give a shit what they thought.

I'm not sure he doesn't know EXACTLY what he's trying to pull, all on his ickle own, which he engineered, crying in the diary room but making sure that he repeats KH is a BULLY a few times, then slumping to the floor with a jumper over his head, to hide the smile of triumph most likely.”

Ist bold - public sympathy and not being voted out
2nd bold - KH being voted out
xXxAnneAxXx
01-02-2015
Isolation is cruel & nasty. I'm not a Perez fan as such but I'd choose him over quite a few of them and certainly over KatieH. No matter how much of a drama queen, big I am or attention seeker you are no one deserves to feel hated.
I'm glad at least KatieP and cheggers aren't obeying Hopkins orders.
Rhumbatugger
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by jobielad:
“Ist bold - public sympathy and not being voted out
2nd bold - KH being voted out”

Yep, mission accomplished.

And people feel so sorry for him. I bet he despises them.
hansue
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by Addisonian:
“It's an act. He's playing the victim as he thinks it'll win the show for him. Which, sadly, it probably will.
Wake up, people!”

Youre spot on. He has planned this all along. Hopefully people wont be sucked in by his game playing.
Kay2000
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by Shane_Coupe_Art:
“If u lot believe that then ur fools .. just because bb showed 5 minute highlight of him pissed up feeling sorry for himself it doesn't mean he is a lovely man, also he knows he can walk out of bb house anytime”

And neither does seeing the few minutes we see make him bad. Hes acted childish, but so have the others, sending a grown man to Coventry is very immature.
Flora_McDonald
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by Ferilatgatr:
“He is as bad as the others, but I don't think he has ever taken any of the blame. For example, with that thing with Callum. When he was given a warning, he just sounded really arrogant and turned it back around about how he was offended. Even though he didn't mean it literally, he couldn't see how other people could be offended by that. I could be wrong, but I am just going off what I remember. He shouldn't be isolated from everyone else, but he needs to stop playing the victim.”

He hasn't taken the blame at times because he has been given all the blame for everything from the start, and is now is sick of it.

As for playing "the victim" - he has bounced back from every adverse circumstance and nasty behaviour for weeks now, but he hasn't bounced back this time. He's had enough and wants to go.

I cannot believe how many hard-hearted and callous people there are on this forum who'd believe that Perez couldn't have felt hurt by all the spite heading his way, and that his feelings are fake.

Yes, he's a bit over the top, but he has kept everyone entertained for weeks, while the rest mooched around bitching because they were pea-green with envy that they weren't as inventive, original, funny or as zany a character is him. It's pure envy and spite, and it was pretty apparent from the start that the only people who hated him were those who resented him for stealing "their" camera time.

I don't know about anyone else, but now Perez is depressed, we're seeing what the rest of them have to offer, and it's hardly enthralling viewing.
bajanqueen
01-02-2015
Say what you like,but the hm can't stop talking about him,what would they talk about if he wasn't there.....a bit like on here !!
Rhumbatugger
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by Kay2000:
“And neither does seeing the few minutes we see make him bad. Hes acted childish, but so have the others, sending a grown man to Coventry is very immature.”

Again, why do you say that? Kav and Cami Li were there for him, he insulted them.

That's not being sent to Coventry Don't just believe what he says for God's sake.

Think.
jobielad
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by kellylennon18:
“No I just don't like to see anyone isolated and feeling sad and alone...im not a fan of Katie Hopkins but i wouldn't like to see her in that position either...think its called caring”

He isn't isolated. He was involved with the group chat in the kitchen, KP and Keith have paid him attention today. The group task was in a group so he wasn't isolated. Perez chooses to isolate himself at the moment. Every member of that house has been ok with him according to the highlights today. It serves his purpose to appear to be isolated.
Rhumbatugger
01-02-2015
There are an astonishing number of mugs about, have to say.
postit
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by Rhumbatugger:
“But he wasn't and Kav and Cami Li were trying to help him.

And they were all normal with him during the task

He deliberately engineered being on his own at the end and that was the only time he was alone.”

Well we all see what we want to see. I saw a man hurting, and I am voting to save him. More than anything I want Hopkins out before him.

She is malice personified and has zero redeeming qualities. That's what I see
Rhumbatugger
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by jobielad:
“He isn't isolated. He was involved with the group chat in the kitchen, KP and Keith have paid him attention today. The group task was in a group so he wasn't isolated. Perez chooses to isolate himself at the moment. Every member of that house has been ok with him according to the highlights today. It serves his purpose to appear to be isolated.”

Spot on.

I think people just blindly believe what he SAYS, because he was all sad or something. They don't THINK about the EVIDENCE in front of their eyes.

Perhaps BB audience deserves Perez.
sandy50
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by Philip_Clarke:
“I just wanted to hug him ”

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postit
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by Rhumbatugger:
“Again, why do you say that? Kav and Cami Li were there for him, he insulted them.

That's not being sent to Coventry Don't just believe what he says for God's sake.

Think.”

My cognitive facilities are just fine thank you, and I don't need to insult other FMs. Hopkins intent was to isolate aka sending Perez to Coventry.
Rhumbatugger
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by postit:
“Well we all see what we want to see. I saw a man hurting, and I am voting to save him. More than anything I want Hopkins out before him.

She is malice personified and has zero redeeming qualities. That's what I see”

So you AGREE he wasnt' isolated then?

Or does that not matter really, you just want to get KH out and bugger Perez being a lying lowlife manipulative drama queen you'll just pretend to believe him?
Rhumbatugger
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by postit:
“My cognitive facilities are just fine thank you, and I don't need to insult other FMs. Hopkins intent was to isolate aka sending Perez to Coventry.”

She hasn't succeeded and they were all fine during the task.

Just vote him in to get KH out, you don't have to make such a song and dance about the reasons being true.
postit
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by Flora_McDonald:
“He hasn't taken the blame at times because he has been given all the blame for everything from the start, and is now is sick of it.

As for playing "the victim" - he has bounced back from every adverse circumstance and nasty behaviour for weeks now, but he hasn't bounced back this time. He's had enough and wants to go.

I cannot believe how many hard-hearted and callous people there are on this forum who'd believe that Perez couldn't have felt hurt by all the spite heading his way, and that his feelings are fake.

Yes, he's a bit over the top, but he has kept everyone entertained for weeks, while the rest mooched around bitching because they were pea-green with envy that they weren't as inventive, original, funny or as zany a character is him. It's pure envy and spite, and it was pretty apparent from the start that the only people who hated him were those who resented him for stealing "their" camera time.

I don't know about anyone else, but now Perez is depressed, we're seeing what the rest of them have to offer, and it's hardly enthralling viewing.”

Excellent post. Applause.
sandy50
01-02-2015
Anyone would think this 37 year old man, wasn't a 37 year old man
It's not as if he's been the best housemate 'ever' til now is it !

And even after Perez had his vile spat at Calum, Calum cooked for him and he refused to eat his food - so Perez does bring things on himself. He's being dramatic , and using his drama skills to compound the victim. Perez gets a hell of a lot more negative reactions to what he does in the US ! and that's his daily life and has been for years !
paralax
01-02-2015
Playing the victim seems to be working, he has brought it on himself, if he talks to any of them they talk to him, it is when he is being obnoxious they don't want to know.
SULLA
01-02-2015
He wants to leave but all the people who feel sorry for him, are voting to keep him in.

What's all that about ?????
postit
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by Rhumbatugger:
“So you AGREE he wasnt' isolated then?

Or does that not matter really, you just want to get KH out and bugger Perez being a lying lowlife manipulative drama queen you'll just pretend to believe him?”

Hyperbolic overload much? Let me spell it out in words of one or two syllables. Yes, he was isolated. It was Hopkins command that he be isolated. Get it now?
amyawake
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by CBFreak:
“Careful OP. Real feelings beneath the showy exterior would be accused as game playing by some.”

Not when he waits until he leaves the DR with hood up before he starts sobbing quietly....come on, some FMs can never detect genuine emotion it seems.

I predicted this would happen and also that there will be a backlash on the Hopkins vendetta against him, i.e. saying she will persecute him until he leaves.
Ferilatgatr
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by Flora_McDonald:
“He hasn't taken the blame at times because he has been given all the blame for everything from the start, and is now is sick of it.

As for playing "the victim" - he has bounced back from every adverse circumstance and nasty behaviour for weeks now, but he hasn't bounced back this time. He's had enough and wants to go.

I cannot believe how many hard-hearted and callous people there are on this forum who'd believe that Perez couldn't have felt hurt by all the spite heading his way, and that his feelings are fake.

Yes, he's a bit over the top, but he has kept everyone entertained for weeks, while the rest mooched around bitching because they were pea-green with envy that they weren't as inventive, original, funny or as zany a character is him. It's pure envy and spite, and it was pretty apparent from the start that the only people who hated him were those who resented him for stealing "their" camera time.

I don't know about anyone else, but now Perez is depressed, we're seeing what the rest of them have to offer, and it's hardly enthralling viewing.”

I agree that he has taken a lot of blame, but there are numerous times when he has been in the wrong. Entertainment is subjective I suppose, and his entertainment value wore off long ago for me. Am I saying his feelings are fake and that he couldn't be hurt? No. But I think he is exaggerating. It is a game show. It was obvious from the get go that his aim in there was to piss people off and to play the game. He is still playing the game, but going about it in a different way.
hansue
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by SULLA:
“He wants to leave but all the people who feel sorry for him, are voting to keep him in.

What's all that about ?????”

Yes its beyond belief that these people who are saying he is isolated and depressed want to keep him in. I would say that is cruelty.
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