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really felt for Perez tonight..
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Rhumbatugger
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by paralax:
“Playing the victim seems to be working, he has brought it on himself, if he talks to any of them they talk to him, it is when he is being obnoxious they don't want to know.”

But they should LOVE him when he's being horrible to them, otherwise if they just leave him to it they're sending him to Coventry, and all that crap.

KH and possibly Michelle are the only ones not talking to him as far as I can see.

And Calum after yesterday I can't blame him.
kellylennon18
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by Flora_McDonald:
“He hasn't taken the blame at times because he has been given all the blame for everything from the start, and is now is sick of it.

As for playing "the victim" - he has bounced back from every adverse circumstance and nasty behaviour for weeks now, but he hasn't bounced back this time. He's had enough and wants to go.

I cannot believe how many hard-hearted and callous people there are on this forum who'd believe that Perez couldn't have felt hurt by all the spite heading his way, and that his feelings are fake.

Yes, he's a bit over the top, but he has kept everyone entertained for weeks, while the rest mooched around bitching because they were pea-green with envy that they weren't as inventive, original, funny or as zany a character is him. It's pure envy and spite, and it was pretty apparent from the start that the only people who hated him were those who resented him for stealing "their" camera time.

I don't know about anyone else, but now Perez is depressed, we're seeing what the rest of them have to offer, and it's hardly enthralling viewing.”

^^^
Exactly this....Could tell when he started to talk about realising everyone hated him that it had really gotten to him..I would say Im a good judge of character and I know Perez has his faults and is probably a absolute nightmare to be in a house with,but he's a human and he's hurt and I for one don't like seeing anyone feeling hurt like that.
Jennyuk
01-02-2015
I'm certain a lot of gullible people will have fallen for his oscar winning victim performance. Considering he keep's saying he doesnt care what other's say or do about and toward's him, he sure pretended to care. Katie Hopkins was correct in saying he knows that act will go out Monday night, let's hope the so called BOMBSHELL tomorrow night doesnt involve Herman Munster being saved.
mitacond
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by postit:
“It's being effectively sent to coventry. Typical bully behaviour from Hopkins.”

I know but what I cannot understand is why the others let her dictate what they should do, how they should treat other hms and then to denigrate those who don't agree with her.
mitacond
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by kellylennon18:
“^^^
Exactly this....Could tell when he started to talk about realising everyone hated him that it had really gotten to him..I would say Im a good judge of character and I know Perez has his faults and is probably a absolute nightmare to be in a house with,but he's a human and he's hurt and I for one don't like seeing anyone feeling hurt like that.”

I agree however I worry about those dictating that he should be ostracized.
longinthetooth
01-02-2015
It's almost as though Perez is 'normal.....

He isn't... he is a man with some serious issues, not least with his own identity

He's a 36yr old man still trying to work out who or what he is... and flits between competing persona's throughout the day depending on the situation he is facing...

They are all there for you to see from Bullish and overaggressive when confronted.... all the way down to ..... tearful and full of self pity when he needs your emotional support

The thing is none of them are real emotions and once the situation changes, within an instant so will Perez's, He will have spent a life pissing people off, then turning the tears on when people don't understand that he is the one that's been hurt, so don't worry about him... this is normal in his world

I only hope that in time Perez will come to understand what are real emotions and what are generated for a purpose... until then he will be someone who is your friend, but only if you are useful!!
Helenbemerry
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by postit:
“Hyperbolic overload much? Let me spell it out in words of one or two syllables. Yes, he was isolated. It was Hopkins command that he be isolated. Get it now?”

You reap what you sow and he deserved an Oscar for that performance.

Katie and Keith were fine with him, Cami and Kav were fine with him, everyone was involved in the task and all (including Katie H) were giving him encouragement in the eating task. Calum cooked for him and he refused to eat it so isolated himself from the meal.

I might have felt a bit of sympathy for him if he'd admitted that he may have contributed to the treatment of him in the house and was sorry for what he'd done but he didn't and chose to act the innocent victim.
Ferilatgatr
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by Helenbemerry:
“You reap what you sow and he deserved an Oscar for that performance.

Katie and Keith were fine with him, Cami and Kav were fine with him, everyone was involved in the task and all (including Katie H) were giving him encouragement in the eating task. Calum cooked for him and he refused to eat it so isolated himself from the meal.

I might have felt a bit of sympathy for him if he'd admitted that he may have contributed to the treatment of him in the house and was sorry for what he'd done but he didn't and choose to act the innocent victim.”

This!!
Rhumbatugger
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by Helenbemerry:
“You reap what you sow and he deserved an Oscar for that performance.

Katie and Keith were fine with him, Cami and Kav were fine with him, everyone was involved in the task and all (including Katie H) were giving him encouragement in the eating task. Calum cooked for him and he refused to eat it so isolated himself from the meal.

I might have felt a bit of sympathy for him if he'd admitted that he may have contributed to the treatment of him in the house and was sorry for what he'd done but he didn't and choose to act the innocent victim.”

Exactly - there was NO drunken self blame, no 'I didn't mean it, I know I can be a bit of a prick' NOTHING.

Apart from to reiterate 'I'm a VICTIM' KH is a BULLY' several times.

Calculated, seriously inauthentic and not well acted either. And still people fall for it.
boy_number_8
01-02-2015
I don't feel sorry for him.

You can not piss people off and then decide to act the victim once you've finally realized that the people you have pissed off dont like you.
Life does not work like that.

And now that Nadia isnt in the house hes having a reality check.
sandy50
01-02-2015
Perhaps it's worth looking back at what he does to others, gets warnings from BB and acts as if it's BB overreacting and what's the problem ? But when the tables turn,he cries. hmmm he's very good.
sandy50
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by Jennyuk:
“I'm certain a lot of gullible people will have fallen for his oscar winning victim performance. Considering he keep's saying he doesnt care what other's say or do about and toward's him, he sure pretended to care. Katie Hopkins was correct in saying he knows that act will go out Monday night, let's hope the so called BOMBSHELL tomorrow night doesnt involve Herman Munster being saved.”

Yes, this was what she was referring to in a VT I watched, she said he's up to something because he knows what he does will go 'out on Monday' ---- Perez is playing them, that's why Katie H and Michelle are reacting the way they are - they've got him sussed.

I wonder if BB will ensure .............Perez goes ????
If they bring back the ex housemates and ask them to decide,,,,,,,,,,,he will go. Just a thought.
BellaRosa
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by kellylennon18:
“No matter what anyone thinks of him it must be horrible to feel alone in a house with no one that can even be bothered listening to him(now that Nadia is gone). Don't think that was a act at all in the DR,its upset him ”


He is acting for the sympathy vote. Don't fall for it.

Why do you think he has no friends?!
Whitiamin
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by Dexter Fan1:
“Every HM (except Keith and Pricey) are horrible to him. They should be ashamed. Perez to win!”

sod Perez he is an absolute manipulating depraved insult of a man, fgs he aint a child he is a grown man....not that you would notice, He really is a user he obviously knows how to use the media and to think people are being dragged into his falseness and lies is a shame because it gives credence to this objectionable idiot.
Vicky8675309
01-02-2015
I don't like to see any human (or any animal) in pain or suffering. Sometimes you can't see the pain & suffering due to defense mechanisms but sometimes they drop and you can see the pain (like with Perez).

I wouldn't want any of the housemates to suffer like that. I can't believe people are saying he deserves it. The lack of empathy/humanity is sad. For those who are saying he is faking it, how do you know? I always give benefit of the doubt since you don't really know and it is better to err on the side of caution.
QuiteInterested
01-02-2015
Horrible man. If being is the house is so isolating, traumatic and worse than his dad's death, why is he still there? Come to think of it, he keeps going on about wanting to leave, so why doesn't he? According to him, he doesn't need the money and doesn't care what the British public think of him, so again, why is he still there?

If you believe any of what he said in the DR tonight, he's fooled you hook, line and sinker.
kellylennon18
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by boy_number_8:
“I don't feel sorry for him.

You can not piss people off and then decide to act the victim once you've finally realized that the people you have pissed off dont like you.
Life does not work like that.

And now that Nadia isnt in the house hes having a reality check.”

But this isn't normal life...they know that after the show they don't have to ever speak to Perez again if they don't want to,they can see he's feeling hurt and alone,wouldn't kill them just to give him a bit of companionship for a few days.
amyawake
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by Jennyuk:
“I'm certain a lot of gullible people will have fallen for his oscar winning victim performance. Considering he keep's saying he doesnt care what other's say or do about and toward's him, he sure pretended to care. Katie Hopkins was correct in saying he knows that act will go out Monday night, let's hope the so called BOMBSHELL tomorrow night doesnt involve Herman Munster being saved.”

Yes he did say he didn't care in the beginning....many days have gone by since then and, what with now losing his support (Nadia, Patsy and - to some extent - Alicia) the hostility towards him in the house has taken its toll. Is that so hard to see?

I truly believe some FMs here cannot detect some fake from genuine emotion on CBB e.g. when it comes to being upset. Their bias clouds their ability to perceive accurately. He didn't quietly sob on camera in the DR; he waited until he descended the stairs, with the hood up before doing that. It was real.

Cheap jibe about his appearance by the way. Shallow.
Jennyuk
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by kellylennon18:
“But this isn't normal life...they know that after the show they don't have to ever speak to Perez again if they don't want to,they can see he's feeling hurt and alone,wouldn't kill them just to give him a bit of companionship for a few days.”

BIB https://twitter.com/BBUKLive/status/...386945/photo/1
Jennyuk
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by amyawake:
“Yes he did say he didn't care in the beginning....many days have gone by since then and, what with now losing his support (Nadia, Patsy and - to some extent - Alicia) the hostility towards him in the house has taken its toll. Is that so hard to see?”




HERMAN MUNSTER is acting he is reaping what he sowed, he looks fine here
https://twitter.com/BBUKLive/status/...386945/photo/1
Jennyuk
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by amyawake:
“Yes he did say he didn't care in the beginning....many days have gone by since then and, what with now losing his support (Nadia, Patsy and - to some extent - Alicia) the hostility towards him in the house has taken its toll. Is that so hard to see?

I truly believe some FMs here cannot detect some fake from genuine emotion on CBB e.g. when it comes to being upset. Their bias clouds their ability to perceive accurately. He didn't quietly sob on camera in the DR; he waited until he descended the stairs, with the hood up before doing that. It was real.

Cheap jibe about his appearance by the way. Shallow.”

BIB Have you ever seen Herman Munster and Perez Hilton in the same room together.
Vicky8675309
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by Flora_McDonald:
“He hasn't taken the blame at times because he has been given all the blame for everything from the start, and is now is sick of it.

As for playing "the victim" - he has bounced back from every adverse circumstance and nasty behaviour for weeks now, but he hasn't bounced back this time. He's had enough and wants to go.

I cannot believe how many hard-hearted and callous people there are on this forum who'd believe that Perez couldn't have felt hurt by all the spite heading his way, and that his feelings are fake.

Yes, he's a bit over the top, but he has kept everyone entertained for weeks, while the rest mooched around bitching because they were pea-green with envy that they weren't as inventive, original, funny or as zany a character is him. It's pure envy and spite, and it was pretty apparent from the start that the only people who hated him were those who resented him for stealing "their" camera time.

I don't know about anyone else, but now Perez is depressed, we're seeing what the rest of them have to offer, and it's hardly enthralling viewing.”

well said!!!!!!

sometimes his defense mechanisms are up and he can play or appear unfazed but after living for 3 weeks as the fall guy for everything, I'm sure he is hurting. No one likes to be hated by anyone much less the majority.
Jennyuk
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by sandy50:
“Yes, this was what she was referring to in a VT I watched, she said he's up to something because he knows what he does will go 'out on Monday' ---- Perez is playing them, that's why Katie H and Michelle are reacting the way they are - they've got him sussed.

I wonder if BB will ensure .............Perez goes ????
If they bring back the ex housemates and ask them to decide,,,,,,,,,,,he will go. Just a thought.”

If they bring back the one's evicted they will save him.
Rhumbatugger
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by Vicky8675309:
“well said!!!!!!

sometimes his defense mechanisms are up and he can play or appear unfazed but after living for 3 weeks as the fall guy for everything, I'm sure he is hurting. No one likes to be hated by anyone much less the majority.”

Oh I don't know, it suits someone who plays Victim very well indeed.
sandy50
01-02-2015
Originally Posted by Jennyuk:
“If they bring back the one's evicted they will save him.”

So much has happened involving Perez since Jeremy, Ken,Cloe , Alexander and Alicia left, and we know Nadia would vote him out as she knows he wants to go !
(nearly forgot Cloe, she's so...........forgettable)
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