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One of us has misunderstood the definition of meme. It could be me,but I'm not sure.
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The quintessential definition of an internet meme is "cat videos".
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The Luckiest Ones Left First
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True but not as much as the word 'meme'.....unfortunately.
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Another narcissist? Join the club.
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It's all me me....me me....me me with you.
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BB is like a secondary school. You're forced into these associations and you work with what you've got. The most domineering and potentially abusive individuals are always popular. Think back. It's not affection as we understand real adult relationships, it's a combination of admiration for the resilience of the person, recognition of their ability to damage and fear of the consequences of being on their wrong side. I wish it were more like school in some ways. Perez might have been expelled by now; and at least HMs could get away from his tactics when they went home. |
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My main problem with Katie Hopkins is that we don't get to see enough of her. BB concentrate far too much on Hilton.
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This 21st century thing of calling anyone that somebody dislikes a narcissist is a very interesting meme. They all seem to quote from the same internet entry as well.
I do agree about pop psychology memes popping up everywhere, 'sociopath' is the one I've noticed the most. Thanks to Patsy Limerick for starting a great thread, I've actually come out from the shadows because of her OP - I'm a lurker on my occasional visits. I think my last post on here was about biscuits. 😊 |
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Repeatedly tonight the fact that Katie H was the most popular HM was cited as, variously, justification for her ISOLATE HIM commands and proof that there's another side to KH that the hls don't show. Let's, for the moment ignore the fact that the one contradicts the other, and examine the jist of the point.
BB is like a secondary school. You're forced into these associations and you work with what you've got. The most domineering and potentially abusive individuals are always popular. Think back. It's not affection as we understand real adult relationships, it's a combination of admiration for the resilience of the person, recognition of their ability to damage and fear of the consequences of being on their wrong side. Is it the HMs or the viewers? BIB Was cited by who?
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I may have missed something on tonight's show but to whom do you direct this fallacy?
Is it the HMs or the viewers? BIB Was cited by who? ![]() OP went to a tough school though. Edit: Superbowl over. I'm out. |
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I'm a bit lost in this thread full of vague, meandering suppositions and pseudo- psychological profiling.
It's told me nothing about Katie and everything about the mass projections of her antagonists. Most revealing. |
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I may have missed something on tonight's show but to whom do you direct this fallacy?
Is it the HMs or the viewers? BIB Was cited by who? ![]() |
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Me too. repeated reading didn't help. Is this in favour of or against Katie Hopkins?
OP went to a tough school though. Edit: Superbowl over. I'm out. |
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If Hopkins wins there are many that will be very disappointed .
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I'm a bit lost in this thread full of vague, meandering suppositions and pseudo- psychological profiling.
It's told me nothing about Katie and everything about the mass projections of her antagonists. Most revealing. |
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One of us has misunderstood the definition of meme. It could be me,but I'm not sure.
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What's a 'mass' projection?
![]() The fallacy that popularity equates worth - the story of the rise of Katie Hopkins really. She appears on a reality TV show, gobs off at Lord Sugar, becomes noticed by some people. The press make a big issue about her gobbiness and the viewers enjoy it, they start printing all the nasty things she says. People who read that press start following her on Twitter and reading about her more in the media. She gobs off more, people take note - cause if the media are paying her attention, she MUST be saying something of note, something important, surely? It snowballs from there and she ends up on CBB. Within the confines of the BB house, I think the reason she's popular is because of her conflict with Perez and the fact that she can use long words in a sentence make her seem like the intelligent choice, the right horse to back in the Perez/Hopkins race. She keeps telling them she's smart, she keeps telling them she's open and honest, eventually many of them start believing it was their opinion to begin with. Along with all that 'isolate him' mantra, they can see clearly that she would isolate them at the drop of a hat, they don't want that so they toe the line and do as they are told. Not sure, with all your long words Patsy, that that is even relevant to your OP but there you go, that's my tuppence worth.
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We are all narcissists, we just didn't know it yet.
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I'm a bit lost in this thread full of vague, meandering suppositions and pseudo- psychological profiling.
It's told me nothing about Katie and everything about the mass projections of her antagonists. Most revealing. |
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One problem is that genuinely 'nice' people often lack the venom to stand up to someone like KH in language that she understands. Therefore, it reinforces her perspective that she is in the right and others are weaker whereas in truth she is one hundred times more emotionally backward than the people she sneers at.
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KH - self described battered daffodil = a c@@t like a narcissus.
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Serfs and drones submit with pleasure to dominating dictators.
Meanwhile Price reminisces on a lifetime of phalluses. |
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I think it's a combination of the perceived popularity of Hopkins aligned with the notion that Perez is universally hated (though he has done nothing in the house to deserve that) that encourages weak people to hide under the shadow of Hopkins.
And it is indeed a shadow. Only dark, no light. When the sheep leave the house to be questioned by rational, normal human beings only then will they understand how they have collectively, completely f***ed up. |
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One problem is that genuinely 'nice' people often lack the venom to stand up to someone like KH in language that she understands. Therefore, it reinforces her perspective that she is in the right and others are weaker whereas in truth she is one hundred times more emotionally backward than the people she sneers at.
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I think it's a combination of the perceived popularity of Hopkins aligned with the notion that Perez is universally hated (though he has done nothing in the house to deserve that) that encourages weak people to hide under the shadow of Hopkins.
And it is indeed a shadow. Only dark, no light. When the sheep leave the house to be questioned by rational, normal human beings only then will they understand how they have collectively, completely f***ed up. |
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but there you go, that's my tuppence worth.
