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Nadia is back - Loose Women @ 12.30pm
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cazziekay
02-02-2015
I did like her before she went in but wasn't impressed with her on BB at all.

I have been on a thread earlier and saw a couple of fun clips that I hadn't seen. So I can believe there were many more we didn't see. It is a shame we didn't see that.

However, imagine how annoyed we would be if we had live feed and it really was funtime Nadia but it wasn't shown on the main show. I do prefer to make my own mind up but we are now left with HLS and what we perceive from that.

Nadia is out and back to her job and this will all be forgotten next week.
Petrolicious
02-02-2015
Originally Posted by patsylimerick:
“perfectly fine to have dozens of male dominated panel shows wherr women are leered over, apparently.”

Dozens...really??? Name me a Dozen then. Hey ask Harriet Harmann if it's fine.....
Penny Crayon
02-02-2015
[quote=Petrolicious;76775737]
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
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Hahaha”



what has Natalie Cassidy got to do with Loose Women?

Why the ha ha?
Veri
02-02-2015
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“OK

I'm not gonna stoop to justifying what I've said. I've said it - I believe it to be true.”



Unlike you, I'm discussing what happened on Loose Women, rather than insinuating that a forum member is biased. But I'm sure you do believe what you said is true, and I haven't said otherwise.

However, what I said in that post is correct. We aren't mind-readers. Entertainment is subjective. I really don't think she has been entertaining. The audience isn't impartial. Nadia was a bit self-deprecating at times, but self-justifying at others. And she hasn't given a great insight into what it's like in the BB house", because she didn't say all that much about it and hasn't told us anything we wouldn't already know from part series and other HMs.
Petrolicious
02-02-2015
[quote=Penny Crayon;76775781]
Originally Posted by Petrolicious:
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what has Natalie Cassidy got to do with Loose Women?

Why the ha ha?”

Oh Never mind Penny.. I cbf explaining but you did give me a chuckle
Philip_Clarke
02-02-2015
I liked Nadia. I didn't agree with everything she did (re. the Police overreaction with Ken) but ultimately she was a nice person and I was glad she looked after Perez when everyone treated him like shit
Veri
02-02-2015
Originally Posted by anne_666:
“How short sighted. She needs back up, she's a coward, all bullies are. ”

What, if anything, does that have to do with what I said?

Quote:
“She wasn't asked if Perez was grabbing camera time, I suspect her answer would be, yes.”

I think it's pretty clear by now that her answer would at least not be a simple "Yes" like it was for Katie. Nadia might acknowledge that Perez did some things for camera time, but she would add a bunch of other stuff that made it seem insignificant.
Veri
02-02-2015
Originally Posted by patsylimerick:
“Well said Penny! The ridiculousness of the 'it's rubbish/you watch that?!?' contradiction really does need highlighting. What strikes me most about the routine criticism that LW gets on here is that it drips with misogyny. And no one ever calls that out.

As to the charges of salivating over young men, it's perfectly fine to have dozens of male dominated panel shows wherr women are leered over, apparently.”

It seems the people who don't like the show "can't win". If the don't watch it, they'll get that sort of "contradiction" reply; but if the do watch it, they'd either get a reply saying they must not really think it's so bad, or they wouldn't keep watching it, or one of "just switch off then" or do you watch just to complain replies.

Anyway, I think it is rubbish. I seldom watch it, but I've watched it enough to know what it's like.

They're back to BB BTW, though only briefly. Nadia said her adrenaline was always up and it was hard to sleep at night (and they weren't allowed to during the day).
anne_666
02-02-2015
Originally Posted by Philip_Clarke:
“I liked Nadia. I didn't agree with everything she did (re. the Police overreaction with Ken) but ultimately she was a nice person and I was glad she looked after Perez when everyone treated him like shit”

I agree. They also got on very well and he like Nadia has many cultural interests and able to have an interesting conversation about something other than the trivial dross of life. I had to give up on live feed on Friday, the conversation was too inane to suffer.
anne_666
02-02-2015
Originally Posted by patsylimerick:
“Well said Penny! The ridiculousness of the 'it's rubbish/you watch that?!?' contradiction really does need highlighting. What strikes me most about the routine criticism that LW gets on here is that it drips with misogyny. And no one ever calls that out.

As to the charges of salivating over young men, it's perfectly fine to have dozens of male dominated panel shows wherr women are leered over, apparently.”

Yup...
RoadRover
02-02-2015
Originally Posted by anne_666:
“Yup...”

What are these dozens of male dominated shows that salivate over women????
anne_666
02-02-2015
Originally Posted by Veri:
“Viewer question does she think that what Katie does in BB is for camera time.

Nadia says "yes", and the audience applauds.

(No one points out that Katie wasn't doing such things before the clash with Perez developed or even suggests that Perez was about camera time.)”

Originally Posted by Veri:
“What, if anything, does that have to do with what I said?



I think it's pretty clear by now that her answer would at least not be a simple "Yes" like it was for Katie. Nadia might acknowledge that Perez did some things for camera time, but she would add a bunch of other stuff that made it seem insignificant.”

The BIB answers your question.

Too much mind reading going on now for me.
Veri
02-02-2015
Originally Posted by anne_666:
“I agree. They also got on very well and he like her is cultured and able to have an interesting conversation about something other than the trivial dross of life. I had to give up on live feed on Friday, the conversation was too inane to suffer.”

I don't think Nadia's shown much sign of being cultured. Why do you think she is? Or even that Perez is?

Interesting conversations are in any case extremely rare in BB or CBB, so it always seems strange to me when some HMs are criticised for not having one, since hardly any HM has ever had one. I'm not sure there's ever been even one BB conversation about anything cultural that was worth the time it took to listen to it.
Shantan
02-02-2015
I think she came across well, very self deprecating as some else mentioned. I think Ruth and Coleen were quite harsh on her which I'm surprised at because Coleen was so awful during her stint on BB.

All in all I think the reaction to Nadia has been over the top. She isn't the worst hm just bossy and a bit annoying.
RoadRover
02-02-2015
Originally Posted by Veri:
“I don't think Nadia's shown much sign of being cultured. Why do you think she is? Or even that Perez is?

Interesting conversations are in any case extremely rare in BB or CBB, so it always seems strange to me when some HMs are criticised for not having one, since hardly any HM has ever had one. I'm not sure there's ever been even one BB conversation about anything cultural that was worth the time it took to listen to it.”

Anne...is beyond deluded. Perez cultured? He is a 37 year old guy that listens to Ariana grande. ...
Veri
02-02-2015
Originally Posted by anne_666:
“The BIB answers your question.”

It does not. I said, commenting on the Loose Woman show I was watching that no one (meaning on the show) pointed out that Katie wasn't doing such things before the clash with Perez developed or even suggested that Perez was about camera time. No one did. (Your assertions about why Katie didn't are irrelevant.)
DiamondDoll
02-02-2015
Originally Posted by RoadRover:
“What are these dozens of male dominated shows that salivate over women????”

If there are 'dozens', I cannot even think of one.
Veri
02-02-2015
Originally Posted by Shantan:
“I think she came across well, very self deprecating as some else mentioned. I think Ruth and Coleen were quite harsh on her which I'm surprised at because Coleen was so awful during her stint on BB.

All in all I think the reaction to Nadia has been over the top. She isn't the worst hm just bossy and a bit annoying.”

I think she did come across pretty well, but on a show loaded in her favour and with no one effectively challenging her. She was self-deprecating at times, but justifying herself at others.
Glinny
02-02-2015
Originally Posted by Philip_Clarke:
“I liked Nadia. I didn't agree with everything she did (re. the Police overreaction with Ken) but ultimately she was a nice person and I was glad she looked after Perez when everyone treated him like shit”

What goes around comes around he was pretty vile and obnoxious to housemates or have you forgotten that. No way was he being bullied.
yenston
02-02-2015
She still thinks the only reason people didn't like her and she was voted out is because of Perez! It doesn't seem to have crossed her mind at all that people just didn't like her.
Veri
02-02-2015
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“Yes some people do make snap decisions/judgements on very little.

Every day different topics are covered different guests are on.

According to some there is always some dishy male on that they are salivating over and making lewd comments.

Daft isn't it? I think they strike a balance between fun stuff, topical stuff and sometimes more serious issues.

I said it before and it was an instant thread killer .

I watch Loose women - I enjoy it.

I think a lot of people jump on a band wagon criticising it and have probably never watched a single episode.”

Re "According to some there is always some dishy male on that they are salivating over and making lewd comments" -- I think the point they are making is that there's hypocrisy in salivating over dishy men but criticising men for salivating over dishy women.

I suspect that the main thing that's given many BB viewers their impression of Loose Women is the HMs who have been regulars on that show.
Bionic01
02-02-2015
They were far too harsh and unfair on her, and had no need to read out the negative tweets. Very biased, especially from prim and proper Ruth, so outraged by Perez' antics in the window. Please.
Penny Crayon
02-02-2015
Originally Posted by Veri:
“Re "According to some there is always some dishy male on that they are salivating over and making lewd comments" -- I think the point they are making is that there's hypocrisy in salivating over dishy men but criticising men for salivating over dishy women.

I suspect that the main thing that's given many BB viewers their impression of Loose Women is the HMs who have been regulars on that show.”

I think you may be right.

It just makes me laugh that Loose Women is sneered at and considered 'low brow' - people are mocked for watching it.

The same people who mock this show recoil in horror if you happen to say that you've never heard of a US import to the show famous for being on US reality TV and in all the gossip mags. The same people who know all the Geordie Shore, MIC, TOWIE house mates and the history of their love lives.

It's laughable IMO.
jojoeno
02-02-2015
Originally Posted by Veri:
“I wonder how much of the show will be devoted to her spin about CBB.

And whether any of her behaviour will be criticised.”

There was quite a lot of hand wringing and "you only have seen 24 hours out of 24 days" soundbites , but it was damage limitation in full flow . She is finished as a TV presenter as she even alluded to career suicide herself and " thankful to be asked to be there today" .

All very unedifying and cringeworthy
Playamonte
02-02-2015
Well she laughed like a drain for hours (she said) on end with that muppet so it was all good.
They all had "amazing" meals and sat at the table for hours.
Etc.
Etc.
Of course she never saw any of the offending things that the muppet done & as she said she is not his mum so why should she get involved (implied that)


Ok Nadia we will be asking these questions & we suggest you give these type replies (yawn)
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