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Nadia is back - Loose Women @ 12.30pm
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Toggler
02-02-2015
Originally Posted by Veri:
“I think she did come across pretty well, but on a show loaded in her favour and with no one effectively challenging her. She was self-deprecating at times, but justifying herself at others.”

Showed herself up as an awful person and as I have said before, managed to extract every ounce of pleasure or happiness from any given situation, constantly looking to be upset/outraged/whatever......
Penny Crayon
02-02-2015
Originally Posted by jojoeno:
“There was quite a lot of hand wringing and "you only have seen 24 hours out of 24 days" soundbites , but it was damage limitation in full flow . She is finished as a TV presenter as she even alluded to career suicide herself and " thankful to be asked to be there today" .

All very unedifying and cringeworthy”


I think you are wrong.

Lets make a date - this time next year. She will still be on the telly relatively regularly - she has done absolutely NOTHING to damage her career. She's just been a bit unpopular for a couple of weeks.

All this career suicide stuff is so OTT.
humpty dumpty
02-02-2015
Originally Posted by Bionic01:
“They were far too harsh and unfair on her, and had no need to read out the negative tweets. Very biased, especially from prim and proper Ruth, so outraged by Perez' antics in the window. Please.”

It's fair enough she was outraged at his antics, but I'm surprised she chose to focus on this rather than mentioning anything about Katie's behaviour. Considering she's her friend, I thought it was a bit harsh.

Ruth has every right to think Perezs actions were vulgar and attention seeking. But nasty, bitchy behaviour is worse than being an annoying show off IMO and she made little mention of that. I really like Ruth, but her line of questioning did seem a bit one sided, considering they're friends. Then again, hearing her hubby on BBOTS maybe it's not so surprising.
jojoeno
02-02-2015
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“I think you are wrong.

Lets make a date - this time next year. She will still be on the telly relatively regularly - she has done absolutely NOTHING to damage her career. She's just been a bit unpopular for a couple of weeks.

All this career suicide stuff is so OTT.”

Maybe so Pen but mud sticks and she hasnt done herself or her image any favours whatsoever
Bionic01
02-02-2015
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“I think you are wrong.

Lets make a date - this time next year. She will still be on the telly relatively regularly - she has done absolutely NOTHING to damage her career. She's just been a bit unpopular for a couple of weeks.

All this career suicide stuff is so OTT.”

It's ridiculous isn't it? She wasn't even that unpopular, saved twice in the top 2, and was evicted against probably the top 3 most popular. She clearly had a lot of support, they just glossed over that.
Darcyprincess
02-02-2015
Originally Posted by Veri:
“I wonder how much of the show will be devoted to her spin about CBB.

And whether any of her behaviour will be criticised.”

Nadia has nothing to feel bad about her behaviour, in being true to herself and not being a nasty bully who isolates others like the majority of the contestants. If Nadia had not been a friend to Perez she probably would have won the show and she knew this but stuck with her principals. I admire her and think she is very much the better person and if others cannot see through Hopkins and others games then they have the problem not Nadia!
Bionic01
02-02-2015
Originally Posted by humpty dumpty:
“It's fair enough she was outraged at his antics, but I'm surprised she chose to focus on this rather than mentioning anything about Katie's behaviour. Considering she's her friend, I thought it was a bit harsh.

Ruth has every right to think Perezs actions were vulgar and attention seeking. But nasty, bitchy behaviour is worse than being an annoying show off IMO and she made little mention of that. I really like Ruth, but her line of questioning did seem a bit one sided, considering they're friends. Then again, hearing her hubby on BBOTS maybe it's not so surprising.”

Very true, I wonder how close they really are, especially after how Eamon spoke to her. It's only a game show!
Penny Crayon
02-02-2015
Originally Posted by humpty dumpty:
“It's fair enough she was outraged at his antics, but I'm surprised she chose to focus on this rather than mentioning anything about Katie's behaviour. Considering she's her friend, I thought it was a bit harsh.

Ruth has every right to think Perezs actions were vulgar and attention seeking. But nasty, bitchy behaviour is worse than being an annoying show off IMO and she made little mention of that. I really like Ruth, but her line of questioning did seem a bit one sided, considering they're friends. Then again, hearing her hubby on BBOTS maybe it's not so surprising.”

They are not stupid enough to make it a Hopkins Hatefest. I suspect that they all can't stand the bigoted, bully, unfunny, stupid cow but they're not gonna fall into the trap of bad mouthing her.

I expect there are quite a few on here positively seething that they didn't fall into the trap.
trevor tiger
02-02-2015
Originally Posted by Playamonte:
“Well she laughed like a drain for hours (she said) on end with that muppet so it was all good.
They all had "amazing" meals and sat at the table for hours.
Etc.
Etc.
Of course she never saw any of the offending things that the muppet done & as she said she is not his mum so why should she get involved (implied that)

Ok Nadia we will be asking these questions & we suggest you give these type replies (yawn)”

So do you think she was lying about having fun with Perez and having nice meals Very odd, after all even you call him a muppet and muppets are funny aren't they

Originally Posted by jojoeno:
“Maybe so Pen but mud sticks and she hasnt done herself or her image any favours whatsoever”

Perhaps you don't like her but truly what has she done to prevent her having a career in TV I don't remember her murdering anyone or even hitting anyone. Oh I know she was friends with Perez guilty as charged
Penny Crayon
02-02-2015
Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“So do you think she was lying about having fun with Perez and having nice meals Very odd, after all even you call him a muppet and muppets are funny aren't they



Perhaps you don't like her and find her character not to your liking but truly what has she done to prevent her having a career in TV I don't remember her murdering anyone or even hitting anyone. Oh I know she was friends with Perez guilty as charged ”

Yeah - it's not as if anyone even watches Loose Women anyway
hicken
02-02-2015
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“I think you are wrong.

Lets make a date - this time next year. She will still be on the telly relatively regularly - she has done absolutely NOTHING to damage her career. She's just been a bit unpopular for a couple of weeks.

All this career suicide stuff is so OTT.”

I'd say more that this was a missed opportunity for her to do her career some good. She took a public image that was almost entirely favourable and tarnished it somewhat.

I was surprised at how dislikable she was actually.
Darcyprincess
02-02-2015
Originally Posted by jojoeno:
“There was quite a lot of hand wringing and "you only have seen 24 hours out of 24 days" soundbites , but it was damage limitation in full flow . She is finished as a TV presenter as she even alluded to career suicide herself and " thankful to be asked to be there today" .

All very unedifying and cringeworthy”

What utter tosh! Hand wringing my foot! As for Nadia being finished on TV, are you joking me, REALLY!!! We are talking about Nadia being on BB for goodness sake, being real to herself and sticking to her convictions and not wanting somebody to be ostracised from a group of bullies. Nadia was one of the very few people that was herself and a decent human being and if others cannot see that then they have big problems, not Nadia! As for being finished on TV, what total rubbish! We will see Nadia on our screens for a very long time, because we need decent, honest people like her, not false, nasty bigoted people like Katie Hopkins, that's for sure!
JVS
02-02-2015
Ruth Langsford slagging off Perez, what a surprise. I wonder if she's had her ear bent by her vitriolic husband.

Horrible to see Nadia's 'friends' telling her how wrong she was, I wish Nadia had bitten back.
Dr Z
02-02-2015
I really find this notion that Nadia was 'bundles of fun' but it was all edited out very hard to believe. There have been many references to her behaviour by other housemates, and many of them pointed out the contrast in the few days when Perez was not there.
Whotoldyouthat
02-02-2015
Originally Posted by patsylimerick:
“Well said Penny! The ridiculousness of the 'it's rubbish/you watch that?!?' contradiction really does need highlighting. What strikes me most about the routine criticism that LW gets on here is that it drips with misogyny. And no one ever calls that out.

As to the charges of salivating over young men, it's perfectly fine to have dozens of male dominated panel shows wherr women are leered over, apparently.”

As opposed to the Tsunami of misandry that is Loose Women.
LHolmes
02-02-2015
Was she pulled up over the way she kicked off at Calum for no reason and some of the ridiculous things she screamed in Kav's face? That was disgusting behaviour.

I bet any viewer feedback was positive.
john176bramley
02-02-2015
Originally Posted by hicken:
“I'd say more that this was a missed opportunity for her to do her career some good. She took a public image that was almost entirely favourable and tarnished it somewhat.

I was surprised at how dislikable she was actually.”

I like Nadia more after her stint in CBB.

*shrugs*
humpty dumpty
02-02-2015
Originally Posted by Dr Z:
“I really find this notion that Nadia was 'bundles of fun' but it was all edited out very hard to believe. There have been many references to her behaviour by other housemates, and many of them pointed out the contrast in the few days when Perez was not there.”

We'll never know....but I think that was more to do with them seeing her fun side, because they were spending time with her. I did see her laughing and seemed to often be having a little giggle with Perez and Keith. It was more down to the situation of them avoiding Perez and Nadia sticking by Perez, as she didn't want to leave him alone. Ridiculous as it is, I giggle at some of Perezs stuff, Keith giggles too.....and I quite believe Nadia when she says that she enjoyed being with him because he made her laugh. She said the same to Keith, when he was feeling down after Katie H had called his jokes boring. When someone tells you that, it must be a bit awkward and hard to come over as naturally funny after that, knowing what people have said. Nadia told him not to stop telling his jokes because she found them funny.
Cat-
02-02-2015
Originally Posted by humpty dumpty:
“It's fair enough she was outraged at his antics, but I'm surprised she chose to focus on this rather than mentioning anything about Katie's behaviour. Considering she's her friend, I thought it was a bit harsh.

Ruth has every right to think Perezs actions were vulgar and attention seeking. But nasty, bitchy behaviour is worse than being an annoying show off IMO and she made little mention of that. I really like Ruth, but her line of questioning did seem a bit one sided, considering they're friends. Then again, hearing her hubby on BBOTS maybe it's not so surprising.”

Was about to say the same about Eamon. He was shockingly one-sided on BBOTS. Not a peep about Katie H.
Darcyprincess
02-02-2015
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“They are not stupid enough to make it a Hopkins Hatefest. I suspect that they all can't stand the bigoted, bully, unfunny, stupid cow but they're not gonna fall into the trap of bad mouthing her.

I expect there are quite a few on here positively seething that they didn't fall into the trap.”

Yes, I agree Penny, I do think that Ruth was quite hard on Nadia but it was also to get Nadia to open up to why her reasons were to stick by Perez and when she said she never knew about the window incident with Perez that others were upset about and that there were many things that were edited out like all the fun and laughs and the cooking and great chats at meal times just showed us how bad the editing is and we only see what the producers of BB want us to see! It gave us chance to see more of why Nadia behaved as she did and would not bow down to the bully group of Hopkins. Personally I don't think Nadia done anything wrong, it was very notable that when Perez was in the secret room for two days that Nadia was up to 3rd place to win and had Perez gone Friday instead of Nadia I am sure she would have won because she would not have had to be constantly befriending Perez and watching his back. Nadia knew this but stayed herself the whole time and for that I think she was amazing!

As for Nadia committimg career suicide I think it is total nonsense, BB will be forgotten two weeks after the show finishes and Nadia will still have her career intact and going about her normal life. At least Nadia has a career, unlike most of the wannabes in the house this year!
Darcyprincess
02-02-2015
Originally Posted by john176bramley:
“I like Nadia more after her stint in CBB.

*shrugs*”

Me too John, she is a very compassionate lady that sticks by her principals! What a great interview she done on Friday too, lovely lady!
hicken
02-02-2015
Originally Posted by john176bramley:
“I like Nadia more after her stint in CBB.

*shrugs*”

Which implies that you liked her beforehand.

My point is really that her CBB performance has switched a lot of viewers from 'like' to 'dislike' whereas I doubt if the reverse is true. I imagine that means fewer doors opening career wise.
BellaRosa
02-02-2015
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“Yes some people do make snap decisions/judgements on very little.

Every day different topics are covered different guests are on.

According to some there is always some dishy male on that they are salivating over and making lewd comments.

Daft isn't it? I think they strike a balance between fun stuff, topical stuff and sometimes more serious issues.

I said it before and it was an instant thread killer .

I watch Loose women - I enjoy it.

I think a lot of people jump on a band wagon criticising it and have probably never watched a single episode.”


BIB Here you are 2 clips of what double standards they have.

http://youtu.be/Y6l256AgvuQ

http://youtu.be/6QNUXrehMRo


A group of screeching women and their sycophantic audience is not my cup of tea.

There is no band wagon to just on when a programme is cr@p to others. Remember clips get shown of certain programmes so some do not just judge on one episode.
Darcyprincess
02-02-2015
Originally Posted by JVS:
“Ruth Langsford slagging off Perez, what a surprise. I wonder if she's had her ear bent by her vitriolic husband.

Horrible to see Nadia's 'friends' telling her how wrong she was, I wish Nadia had bitten back.”

Yes and we are talking about the obnoxious Eaamon Holmes that has an opinion about everything and everyone and always thinks he's right, constantly putting his own wife down on This Mornimg! I think that Ruth listens to him too much and she just repeats a lot of what he thinks. But it was very notable that the Loose Women audience were behind Nadia and she got big applauds!
Eugenie
02-02-2015
Originally Posted by Darcyprincess:
“Nadia has nothing to feel bad about her behaviour, in being true to herself and not being a nasty bully who isolates others like the majority of the contestants. If Nadia had not been a friend to Perez she probably would have won the show and she knew this but stuck with her principals. I admire her and think she is very much the better person and if others cannot see through Hopkins and others games then they have the problem not Nadia!”

Totally agree and I actually like Nadia MORE since she was on the show.
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