I could understand if it was someone who was naive to the subject but he's a gay man and knows all about the virus and how many people have suffered. If anyone I feel sorry for him! Thank you for understanding though and I do completely see where your coming from.

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Perhaps that is why he used it, it was first thing he thought of, I don't think he did it to hurt anyone just a thoughtless comment.


No problem it happens

He thinks the trauma of the house was worse than the death of his father; now he thinks he shares the plight of AIDS suffferers. The man is histrionic.
I can well understand why the others want nothing to do with him.

Someone with sense using the word 'sufferers' rather than 'Victims'.

It's called trolling I believe.

You would wonder how do people deal with Perez in the real world? Does he have any friends.

He comes across as very unpalatable.

He is such a selfish idiot. Me me me

Absolutely.

The amount of posters choosing to completely ignore why he said it is laughable.

He feels he is being ostracised / left out / shunned. The same way AIDS sufferers were treated in the 80's.

What is so hard to understand about his analogy?

Nothing.

It's very simple.

Yes I think it's pretty obvious he used it because it's familiar to himself and of course Michelle. I think it's also worth stressing that he compared his alienation by others to the alienation of AIDS victims in the 80s. It wasn't so much about the disease but society's reaction.

I think if you take these 2 things into consideration you can see it was a bit crass but not deeply malicious.

This from someone who feels that Perez can do no wrong! Before you make those sort of ill informed misjudged comments.....why not look at what Perez has actually said but I guess comparing his suffering to being an AIDS victim, being more traumatised by Nadia leaving and others showing their distaste for his behaviour, than the death of his father. Oh and of course wanting Cami and Chloe to have a lesbian relationship for the cameras, him wanting to shove his "huge dick" up Calum's arse, calling his HM's, BB and the viewers "mother****ers" to name but a few instances is the height of manners?

While I am at it........actually writing that people are gobshites and shit comes out of their mouths.....I see you must have got your money back from the same charm school as Perez

I don't think anyone has said he is well mannered or charming even, but people are taking what he says rather more seriously than he means it when he says it and misconstruing what he means when he says it.

How do you know what he means?

I can understand why it might. I don't think that his intention was such though.
I am sorry your friends have to go through it still.
Sometimes though, right or strong a strong and maybe ill advised statement like those two get people talking, thinking and understanding to a point.

HIV isn't just the 'gays' virus as it was once thought to be, it's everyone's virus and we're all capable of getting it.

Maybe in a small way and unbeknown and unintended way to Perez, he has opened up a small debate. (no he need not take credit for it) You were able to vent your frustration that you feel for your friends and we were able to remind people just how dreadful people can be to people who have diseases that others fear and more to the point don't understand.

Perhaps if it was one isolated incident but it isn't. He uses phrases, words and analogies that are deliberately inflammatory to cause as much antagonism and bad feeling as he can......and then tries to mitigate it by saying "I didnt mean it like that" or "its the way I felt" while all the time complaining that he is unhappy because people don't like him. Quite honestly, and this is only my opinion, everything he says is designed to have exactly that effect because he thrives on attention. Attention like publicity in his eyes is all good, no matter who it hurts or offends and I am fearful that one day he will take it too far and a black eye will be the least of his problems.

Well I think it was quite clear that he wasn't comparing it to actually having the disease.

He was comparing peoples reactions towards him. It's really only like saying 'I was treated like a Leper' - which is quite a common analogy isn't it? I have never heard anyone getting irate on behalf of people with Leprosy.

It was a tad dramatic. That is all.

Same way others do by watching the show and listening to what they say.

Exactly !

hear, hear.
especially when you take into account Alexander's comments about not wanting Perez "breathing all in my food" as i have said in another thread, at the time Alexander said this, you could clearly see it was Nadia who was cooking and in fact leaning over the pot of food to stir it, Perez was the other side of the counter talking to Nadia. Alexander saying he doesn't want the "ass-faggot" breathing on his food suggests he's worried he might catch something from Perez in particular, after all Nadia was closer and he wasn't bothered about her "breathing all in my food" was he?

eta bbcrzy just reminded me about Alexander's comment about not wanting to catch Perez's "bird flu or something"

If anyone else had said that he would have gone into meltdown!

read my post above yours no one went into "meltdown" after Alexander's comments.

Spot on.

I am fed up with the constant excuses for his shocking behaviour.

Me me me. He is just the worst

Precisely the same argument that was used in the 1980s to ostracize people with AIDS.