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Cami given free reign in her interview to slag off Perez endlessly
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themightypierre
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by bananaman_007:
“Just like Nadia was with Katie H”

Exactly. Nadia was not challenged either. But in truth who cares at this point? Nothing is really going to change my mind about KH or Perez at this point.
nattoyaki
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by sallystrawb:
“just saying oooh that's a tad over the line...isn't good enough, bit more than a tad I think.”

I'm astonished that's all she said, and that the production company weren't screaming down her earpiece to say something stronger.

Originally Posted by Vicky8675309:
“Alexander WALKED and that is a fact! Emma could of been professional and corrected Cami's lies/errors/delusions/brainwashing. Emma could of said, "Cami, since Alexander choose to walk and wasn't kicked out, does that change your opinion and if so then how"

Also Cami said Perez kissed her ass to avoid nominations before the last nominations BUT he is ETERNALLY nominated so Cami is just delusional

I wish BB had shown her saying she wanted to cut Perez's throat and her warning from BB back when this all happened.”

Absolutely.
Flo71
03-02-2015
Who cares she's gone, thankfully. Selfish bitch was how she came across and she was voted out! Yay.
radders2012
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by sallystrawb:
“Yeah also everyone knows this isn't fact at all as Alexander walked out by his own choice and wasn't thrown out.

She really needs to take a good long look at herself before going on about how vile other people are! ”

Did you actually watch the show? - yes Alex walked out but it was because he was pushed to the edge of doing something he didn't want to by Perez's targeted goading - so leaving was his only option.
radders2012
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by Vicky8675309:
“Alexander WALKED and that is a fact! Emma could of been professional and corrected Cami's lies/errors/delusions/brainwashing. Emma could of said, "Cami, since Alexander choose to walk and wasn't kicked out, does that change your opinion and if so then how"

Also Cami said Perez kissed her ass to avoid nominations before the last nominations BUT he is ETERNALLY nominated so Cami is just delusional

I wish BB had shown her saying she wanted to cut Perez's throat and her warning from BB back when this all happened.”

Man I am getting tired of this - Perez fans rewriting history - First Cami didnt say Alex was kicked out she said Perez caused HMs to be kicked out and leave then mentioned Alex.
I will repeat this - Alex left because of deliberate, targeted goading from Perez - whether I like Perez or not is irrelevant - that is what happened.
I also think you missed the point of ass kissing - its to avoid that person nominating you and has nothing to do with who you nominate.
Finally she didn't say that on the show she said she "thought it"
She was extremely rude and coarse but come on comment on what she said not your version of it.
sandy50
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by radders2012:
“Man I am getting tired of this - Perez fans rewriting history - First Cami didnt say Alex was kicked out she said Perez caused HMs to be kicked out and leave then mentioned Alex.
I will repeat this - Alex left because of deliberate, targeted goading from Perez - whether I like Perez or not is irrelevant - that is what happened.
I also think you missed the point of ass kissing - its to avoid that person nominating you and has nothing to do with who you nominate.
Finally she didn't say that on the show she said she "thought it"
She was extremely rude and coarse but come on comment on what she said not your version of it.”

This was how I saw it too, spot on.
calamity
03-02-2015
If Cami does have a boyfriend as was hinted..... what must his mother be thinking
mz fit
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by bananaman_007:
“Just like Nadia was with Katie H”

Exactly!!
Cranberryapple
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by Vicky8675309:
“Alexander WALKED and that is a fact! Emma could of been professional and corrected Cami's lies/errors/delusions/brainwashing. Emma could of said, "Cami, since Alexander choose to walk and wasn't kicked out, does that change your opinion and if so then how"

Also Cami said Perez kissed her ass to avoid nominations before the last nominations BUT he is ETERNALLY nominated so Cami is just delusional

I wish BB had shown her saying she wanted to cut Perez's throat and her warning from BB back when this all happened
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I agree.

Originally Posted by bananaman_007:
“Just like Nadia was with Katie H”

Originally Posted by Fairy Wings:
“Ditto Nadia.”

Originally Posted by Captain Kipper:
“Nadia was given an open ended platform to slag off Hopkins on Friday...and to blame her for everything that is wrong with the world.

This is just redressing the balance.”

Originally Posted by Captain Kipper:
“And was quickly shut down by Emma, so that was not tolerated.

But Nadia's insane rant last Friday was completely unchecked or challenged by Emma Willis.”

Originally Posted by themightypierre:
“Exactly. Nadia was not challenged either. But in truth who cares at this point? Nothing is really going to change my mind about KH or Perez at this point.”

The point is, Nadia was giving her opinions on KH as a house mate.

Cami Li was WRONG in her assumptions Perez got others kicked out. 2 were removed and Alexander walked. THIS is what Emma should've been correcting. She couldn't exactly say to Nadia, Eh stop giving us your opinon on KH.

Still, anything to keep having a go at Nadia eh
auntysplat
03-02-2015
That was her opinion on him after a couple of days, no-one checked Alicia or Nadia on their opinions of KH, That just proved my opinion that KH had nothing to do with other H/M disliking Perez, Calum and Michelle went off him after his show in the Garden,
Penny Crayon
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by radders2012:
“Did you actually watch the show? - yes Alex walked out but it was because he was pushed to the edge of doing something he didn't want to by Perez's targeted goading - so leaving was his only option.”

Well it wasn't really was it? He could have exercised a bit of self control. He was probably worried about missing the concert dates he was booked for last weekend. It was a convenient excuse I'd have thought.
molliepops
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“Well it wasn't really was it? He could have exercised a bit of self control. He was probably worried about missing the concert dates he was booked for last weekend. It was a convenient excuse I'd have thought.”

I didn't realise he had a reason to be out but that would explain why he was so easily angered to the point he left before he lost control. Always wondered why he was so quick to the point of want to be violent.
Veri
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by Silent Scream:
“Nice to see Emma's in control of the situation then.”

"Control" in this case seems to me "suppress anything negative about Perez".

Originally Posted by Ms Ann Thrope:
“She's had far longer than they usually get. I'm not liking it.”

How much longer? What's the average for other eviction interviews?

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“She really needs to take a good long look at herself before going on about how vile other people are! ”

Why? Perez is far worse than her. Should she not be allowed to say?
Veri
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“Well it wasn't really was it? He could have exercised a bit of self control. He was probably worried about missing the concert dates he was booked for last weekend. It was a convenient excuse I'd have thought.”

He did exercise a bit of self control. No one's self-control is endless.

If Perez had exercised some self-control, Alex might still be there.
sallystrawb
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by radders2012:
“Did you actually watch the show? - yes Alex walked out but it was because he was pushed to the edge of doing something he didn't want to by Perez's targeted goading - so leaving was his only option.”

Yes I did, did you actually read my comment? I was talking about Cami-li not getting her facts right. She said Perez got Alexander kicked out, but it was FACT he left by choice.

Also, i'm not defending Perez for taunting him, he was being an idiot there. But, before that happened I saw Alexander snapping at Perez for no reason, he wasn't even speaking to him...there are 2 sides to every story.
Penny Crayon
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by Veri:
“He did exercise a bit of self control. No one's self-control is endless.

If Perez had exercised some self-control, Alex might still be there.”

I doubt that very much. He has become a bit of a mythological figure - he was fed up, he'd had enough, he was boring. If he hadn't have walked at that point he probably would have done later (he was performing pre booked gigs the weekend just gone) or he would have been voted out.

Quite why he's become 'the big man' and the sacred cow is beyond me. He was a fish out of water in there.
rhizo_mania
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by Veri:
“He did exercise a bit of self control. No one's self-control is endless.

If Perez had exercised some self-control, Alex might still be there.”



And miss out on those prebooked concerts and the income from them I don't think so.....
OMGItsAnnie
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by bananaman_007:
“Just like Nadia was with Katie H”

Exactly
Veri
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by chachachavvy:
“It's annoying that she allowed to say things like 'Perez got Alexander thrown out of the house' as if it is fact and not just her perception.”

Perhaps it is fact. It's not like we know everything, and it's even possible Cami knows something we don't.

Originally Posted by sallystrawb:
“Yeah also everyone knows this isn't fact at all as Alexander walked out by his own choice and wasn't thrown out.”

"Walked" can be a face-saving cover story, or to avoid legal complications.

We don't know what happened behind the scenes. It could have been made clear that if he didn't go, he would be removed. That's essentially what happened to Coolio in UBB.

Originally Posted by Vicky8675309:
“Alexander WALKED and that is a fact! ”

It's a fact that that's how it was presented to us. We don't know what happened behind the scenes.

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“Emma could of been professional and corrected Cami's lies/errors/delusions/brainwashing. Emma could of said, "Cami, since Alexander choose to walk and wasn't kicked out, does that change your opinion and if so then how"”

Yes, that sounds very professional: telling a HM that what they said was lies, delusions, or brainwashing, along with "errors".

Originally Posted by Cranberryapple:
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The point is, Nadia was giving her opinions on KH as a house mate. ...”

Nadia was also making claims about what happened.

If everything Nadia said can be construed as opinion, the same goes for Cami. It was her opinion that Perez got Alex thrown out.

Perez certainly seemed to be trying to get HMs thrown out, with his stuff about fearing for his safety and citing of BB rules. He even called for a lawyer at one point. And his wind-up tactics often seem aimed at provoking a HM into doing or saying something that will get them removed.
Veri
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by sallystrawb:
“...

Also, i'm not defending Perez for taunting him, he was being an idiot there. But, before that happened I saw Alexander snapping at Perez for no reason, he wasn't even speaking to him...there are 2 sides to every story.”

Is that about the clip in which Alex says something to Perez about something Perez did earlier that isn't in the clip? That's the clip some were claiming "proved" Alex started it all.
OMGItsAnnie
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by sallystrawb:
“Yes I did, did you actually read my comment? I was talking about Cami-li not getting her facts right. She said Perez got Alexander kicked out, but it was FACT he left by choice.

Also, i'm not defending Perez for taunting him, he was being an idiot there. But, before that happened I saw Alexander snapping at Perez for no reason, he wasn't even speaking to him...there are 2 sides to every story.”

The fact that we didn't get to see the moment in the diary room when he 'walked' is very telling. It seems to me that he got kicked out but BB didn't want to cause any uproar with the fans.
radders2012
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by sallystrawb:
“Yes I did, did you actually read my comment? I was talking about Cami-li not getting her facts right. She said Perez got Alexander kicked out, but it was FACT he left by choice.

Also, i'm not defending Perez for taunting him, he was being an idiot there. But, before that happened I saw Alexander snapping at Perez for no reason, he wasn't even speaking to him...there are 2 sides to every story.”

Yes I did and if you read my other comments you will see that I said she didn't say that - the words "Perez got Alexander kicked out" were never spoken - she said that Perez was responsible for people being kicked out and a leaving then she said Alex name but Emma moved the subject on before she expanded.

Yes there are two sides to every story yet you seemed to be offended by Cami's side and inferring yours is right.
I don't really care what Alex did or Perez did before that point or who started - to me standing by someones bed at 6:30 coughing then following them round the house blowing kisses and simulating oral sex with a plastic rabbits ears towards another HM is inflammatory and completely uncalled for - something he would never have dared do outside the house - he purposely goaded someone to breaking point then smiled with glee when Alex said the unacceptable word before announcing how offended he was
Whoever had done that to another HM I would have found it unacceptable - I think it was disgraceful behavior and indefensible.
radders2012
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by OMGItsAnnie:
“The fact that we didn't get to see the moment in the diary room when he 'walked' is very telling. It seems to me that he got kicked out but BB didn't want to cause any uproar with the fans.”

Well said - no point in letting the facts get in the way of a good opinion
sallystrawb
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by Veri:
“Is that about the clip in which Alex says something to Perez about something Perez did earlier that isn't in the clip? That's the clip some were claiming "proved" Alex started it all.”

Yeah I think so, he says that Perez has been up all morning starting sh*t. I'm not saying it "proves" anything, but that Alexander isn't as innocent as some people are making out...that Perez just targeted someone for fun. Perez wasn't even saying anything bad at the time, just about Keith being the big brother of the house, then Alex buts in and tells him to give it a rest, and that he's been starting sh*t. I'd tell Alex to mind his own business if that were me!
sallystrawb
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by OMGItsAnnie:
“The fact that we didn't get to see the moment in the diary room when he 'walked' is very telling. It seems to me that he got kicked out but BB didn't want to cause any uproar with the fans.”

Well if it "seems to you" than it could be true!
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