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What It Means If Hopkins Wins.....
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amyawake
03-02-2015
I realise those that vote for Hopkins may not necessarily like her but be anti Perez and, so, support her in her vindictiveness towards him, e.g. "isolate the bastard" and declaring that she will persecute him until he leaves. However, she also has her supporters who like her views and behaviour (more worrying). I wonder how much they know about her, i.e. her hatred of all kinds of people is a very long list. Not for nothing is she hailed as the most hated woman in UK).

There can be no doubt that Hopkins is both a bully and also a bigot. Therefore, if she wins, it gives a huge endorsement for this behaviour, i.e. sends out the message that such behaviour is OK.
supergran0606
03-02-2015
I totally agree with everything you say, she is a nasty vile person with nothing nice to say about anyone - she is totally insincere and cannot imaging for one moment that Michelle will be on her speed dial as they are so different from each other. Unfortunately those who voted for that nasty bully Helen Wood are probably voting for her too. I hope she does not win, either Keith, Kate P or Perez to win. I would actually like Perez to win apart from the fact he is a complete idiot, just to get up Hatie's nose because she is so up herself she is convinced she is going to win
amyawake
03-02-2015
I was just thinking....voting is looking like polar opposites i.e. voting for Keith represents a vote for niceness, whilst voting for Hopkins = nastiness.
RabidWolverine1
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by amyawake:
“I realise those that vote for Hopkins may not necessarily like her but be anti Perez and, so, support her in her vindictiveness towards him, e.g. "isolate the bastard" and declaring that she will persecute him until he leaves. However, she also has her supporters who like her views and behaviour (more worrying). I wonder how much they know about her, i.e. her hatred of all kinds of people is a very long list. Not for nothing is she hailed as the most hated woman in UK).

There can be no doubt that Hopkins is both a bully and also a bigot. Therefore, if she wins, it gives a huge endorsement for this behaviour, i.e. sends out the message that such behaviour is OK.”

Don't need to add anything, perfectly put ...although its upsetting that there is cause for posts like this.

The fact some people are championing such behaviour is beyond baffling
supergran0606
03-02-2015
Totally baffling - the mindset of these people beggars belief, like I said above, Helen Wood voters all over again
OMGItsAnnie
03-02-2015
If parasite Perez wins then it's basically saying it's okay to threaten someone with rape.
Sharona68
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by OMGItsAnnie:
“If parasite Perez wins then it's basically saying it's okay to threaten someone with rape.”

Perez isn't the subject matter on this thread.
rhizo_mania
03-02-2015
Ohhhh not again.....
RabidWolverine1
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by OMGItsAnnie:
“If parasite Perez wins then it's basically saying it's okay to threaten someone with rape.”

As opposed to someone criticizing a nurse who was giving Aid to people suffering from Ebola and picked it up herself through that amazing work.

As opposed to someone who thinks its okay to tell a country to restart a bombing campaign on another country of "Filthy Rodents"

As opposed to someone who promotes class exists in someones name.


Yeah what Perez said was stupid but it was heat of the moment. But id take him over Hopkins any day.

Hopkins is a S*** Stirrer for hire, she says things in her own time without being in an argument. Shes a disgrace to all 5 senses.
Arcana
03-02-2015
All sorts of hysterical and highly questionable claims can be made about what it means but undeniably it means that Hilton loses.
Helenbemerry
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by supergran0606:
“Totally baffling - the mindset of these people beggars belief, like I said above, Helen Wood voters all over again”

I didn't like Katie H before she went into the house but having seen her in there, my point of view has changed - she does actually talk a lot of sense in some things.

I couldn't stand Helen Wood and would never have voted for her
vald
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by Arcana:
“All sorts of hysterical and highly questionable claims can be made about what it means but undeniably it means that Hilton loses.”

I don't think for a moment that anyone expected Perez to win. TBH I'm surprised he's got this far, so good on him.
amyawake
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by Helenbemerry:
“I didn't like Katie H before she went into the house but having seen her in there, my point of view has changed - she does actually talk a lot of sense in some things.

I couldn't stand Helen Wood and would never have voted for her”

So how do you feel about the OP, i.e. what it means if she wins - its repercussions? Does that not bother you at all or do you not see that she is a bully and a bigot? (I could provide more evidence if need be to back this up).
Dr Z
03-02-2015
Considering this is a gameshow, the similarity to the current political situation in the UK is quite astounding.

We have people that vote for their favourite (as it should be), and then we have people whose entire drive appears to be telling other people who they shouldn't vote for.

Similarly to politics, the side that would like people to think they oppose oppression, bullying, fascism etc. are actually the ones that excel in fascism and pushing people around themselves by telling people who they should and shouldn't vote for.

Fascinating.
lynzee
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by OMGItsAnnie:
“If parasite Perez wins then it's basically saying it's okay to threaten someone with rape.”

What a pathetic statement. Are you for real????
BubbaRitter
03-02-2015
It is a shame that some people are so blinkered and humourless that they do not have the capacity to see beyond the sound bites. Katie has tapped into the feeling of the silent majority who, whilst not agreeing with everything she says, admire her for stimulating debate and exposing the utter hypocrisy of some people who claim to stand up for people and take offence on their behalf, yet live their lives very differently. Just look at Perez with his rule book.
postit
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by OMGItsAnnie:
“If parasite Perez wins then it's basically saying it's okay to threaten someone with rape.”

Oh for goodness sake. You know perfectly well that wasn't a threat by any stretch of the imagination.
l0velylady
03-02-2015
I couldn't stand Helen Wood and would never have voted for her either.

I didn't like Katie H before she went into the house but having seen her in there, my point of view has changed - she does actually talk a lot of sense in some things although I sometime don't agree with the way she executes it.

How many warnings for threatening, inappropriate behavious has Katie H had - None - how many has Perez had - 3. Enought said !
Jules_Thornley
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by BubbaRitter:
“It is a shame that some people are so blinkered and humourless that they do not have the capacity to see beyond the sound bites. Katie has tapped into the feeling of the silent majority who, whilst not agreeing with everything she says, admire her for stimulating debate and exposing the utter hypocrisy of some people who claim to stand up for people and take offence on their behalf, yet live their lives very differently. Just look at Perez with his rule book.”

Good post.

If Katie wins it says that we are open to different opinions/debate with an element of satire and humour from time to time. It would also say that we don't take everything in life too seriously. We don't have to agree with what's said but we are happy to debate it.
supergran0606
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by l0velylady:
“I couldn't stand Helen Wood and would never have voted for her either.

I didn't like Katie H before she went into the house but having seen her in there, my point of view has changed - she does actually talk a lot of sense in some things although I sometime don't agree with the way she executes it.

How many warnings for threatening, inappropriate behavious has Katie H had - None - how many has Perez had - 3. Enought said !”

yes and we are left wondering why she has not had warnings
amyawake
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by Dr Z:
“Considering this is a gameshow, the similarity to the current political situation in the UK is quite astounding.

We have people that vote for their favourite (as it should be), and then we have people whose entire drive appears to be telling other people who they shouldn't vote for.

Similarly to politics, the side that would like people to think they oppose oppression, bullying, fascism etc. are actually the ones that excel in fascism and pushing people around themselves by telling people who they should and shouldn't vote for.

Fascinating.”

I am merely pointing out the consequences of voting for her...perhaps you have not realised that. Your odd statement about those opposing bullying excel in fascism is patently flawed and laughable. Can you substantiate it at all and give an example of this? Very peculiar.
l0velylady
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by supergran0606:
“yes and we are left wondering why she has not had warnings”

About what ... talking behind peoples backs and being direct. She has never threatened anyone in there !
amyawake
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by Jules_Thornley:
“Good post.

If Katie wins it says that we are open to different opinions/debate with an element of satire and humour from time to time. It would also say that we don't take everything in life too seriously. We don't have to agree with what's said but we are happy to debate it.”

No...the whole point about a bigot is that they are NOT open to debate!!! Hopkins admits to seeing everything in black and white and she is VERY serious about her views, i.e. the opposite of what you are saying here.
Ms Ann Thrope
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by Dr Z:
“Considering this is a gameshow, the similarity to the current political situation in the UK is quite astounding.

We have people that vote for their favourite (as it should be), and then we have people whose entire drive appears to be telling other people who they shouldn't vote for.

Similarly to politics, the side that would like people to think they oppose oppression, bullying, fascism etc. are actually the ones that excel in fascism and pushing people around themselves by telling people who they should and shouldn't vote for.

Fascinating.”

Typically you are only seeing what you want to see. There are plenty of Hopkins fans out there telling people not to vote for Perez.

Does David Cameron not tell people not to vote Labour? Of course he does. That's politics.
MACTOWIN
03-02-2015
Oh dear. If she wins she wins its only a tv show.
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