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Old 03-02-2015, 13:53
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Offended or not Perez comment About AIDS says a lot about him.

If he had been handed a virtual Death sentence in the 1980 he would have time to be concerned about what people thought of him.

Not really the person he claims to be..not caring what other think..just going to be himself.
the man is self obsessed, desperate for attention and totally clueless of it.
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Old 03-02-2015, 13:55
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I guess they are running scared about his exit interview since he has such a foul disgusting mouth.
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Old 03-02-2015, 13:57
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It's funny no one was this appalled when Alex said he didn't want Perez breathing on his food, even though you could clearly see in the background Nadia was cooking the dinner was much closer to the food and indeed was leaning over the pot whilst stirring; Perez on the other hand was on the other side of the counter talking to Nadia.
The way Alexander was talking it was as if he could catch something by Perez being too near his food....hmmmmmmm
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Old 03-02-2015, 14:03
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It's funny no one was this appalled when Alex said he didn't want Perez breathing on his food, even though you could clearly see in the background Nadia was cooking the dinner was much closer to the food and indeed was leaner over the pot whilst stirring; Perez on the other hand was on the other side of the counter talking to Nadia.
The way Alexander was talking it was as if he could catch something by Perez being too near his food....hmmmmmmm
Agreed.
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Old 03-02-2015, 14:04
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It's funny no one was this appalled when Alex said he didn't want Perez breathing on his food, even though you could clearly see in the background Nadia was cooking the dinner was much closer to the food and indeed was leaner over the pot whilst stirring; Perez on the other hand was on the other side of the counter talking to Nadia.
The way Alexander was talking it was as if he could catch something by Perez being too near his food....hmmmmmmm
Yes, that actually is something to be offended about.
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Old 03-02-2015, 14:08
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Offended or not Perez comment About AIDS says a lot about him.

If he had been handed a virtual Death sentence in the 1980 he would have time to be concerned about what people thought of him.

Not really the person he claims to be..not caring what other think..just going to be himself.
the man is self obsessed, desperate for attention and totally clueless of it.
Even though I've not heard him say it yet, it was an incredibly daft thing to say. I'm sure Perez could have chosen a less offensive thing to say. People sometimes say daft things in the heat of the moment and then regret it later on.
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Old 03-02-2015, 14:14
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Even though I've not heard him say it yet, it was an incredibly daft thing to say. I'm sure Perez could have chosen a less offensive thing to say. People sometimes say daft things in the heat of the moment and then regret it later on.

Agree. I think this is what he's like.

I think it's odd that no one has mentioned the only time they've shown us Perez being selfless - during the letters from home task. He gave up his, and talked KP into giving up hers so Michelle could get hers.
(As it is KH ballsed it up, by trying to be over-clever and over- think it...)
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Old 03-02-2015, 14:19
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Offended or not Perez comment About AIDS says a lot about him.

If he had been handed a virtual Death sentence in the 1980 he would have time to be concerned about what people thought of him.

Not really the person he claims to be..not caring what other think..just going to be himself.
the man is self obsessed, desperate for attention and totally clueless of it.
It's funny how every little thing Perez says is jumped on, while other toxic tongues are overlooked.
He also said he has been made to feel like a leper.
So I suppose we can expect a myriad of threads such as this:
If he had been handed a virtual Death sentence in biblical times ect, ect !
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Old 03-02-2015, 14:22
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Agree. I think this is what he's like.

I think it's odd that no one has mentioned the only time they've shown us Perez being selfless - during the letters from home task. He gave up his, and talked KP into giving up hers so Michelle could get hers.
(As it is KH ballsed it up, by trying to be over-clever and over- think it...)
No surprise there. She's a sly and nasty bitch.
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Old 03-02-2015, 14:23
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Offended or not Perez comment About AIDS says a lot about him.

If he had been handed a virtual Death sentence in the 1980 he would have time to be concerned about what people thought of him.

Not really the person he claims to be..not caring what other think..just going to be himself.
the man is self obsessed, desperate for attention and totally clueless of it.
He did not make a statement about HIV the disease , he made a statement about Avoidance and Ostracizing and used it as an example. A very GOOD example as well. Unless you are over the age of 50 you likely have NO real idea of what it was like back then.

The suspicious and ostracizing of 'the gays' was blatant and harsh.

Kids and young adults who are making fun of perez for using this as an example .

name ONE other time in recent history that brutal and cruel ostracizing occurred to an individual that was 'different'. I cannot, nothing in my years of work comes close, not even herpes outbreaks (also incurable) in the 70s.

the comment was not about the disease and Michelle's response was ridiculous especially in line with her being one of the worst offenders.
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Old 03-02-2015, 14:25
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It's funny no one was this appalled when Alex said he didn't want Perez breathing on his food, even though you could clearly see in the background Nadia was cooking the dinner was much closer to the food and indeed was leaning over the pot whilst stirring; Perez on the other hand was on the other side of the counter talking to Nadia.
The way Alexander was talking it was as if he could catch something by Perez being too near his food....hmmmmmmm
dont forget alexander made a Snide comment about catching 'something', like winkwink Bird flu.

i think we all know which virus homophobic alexander was really suggesting.
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Old 03-02-2015, 14:33
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He did not make a statement about HIV the disease , he made a statement about Avoidance and Ostracizing and used it as an example. A very GOOD example as well. Unless you are over the age of 50 you likely have NO real idea of what it was like back then.

The suspicious and ostracizing of 'the gays' was blatant and harsh.

Kids and young adults who are making fun of perez for using this as an example .

name ONE other time in recent history that brutal and cruel ostracizing occurred to an individual that was 'different'. I cannot, nothing in my years of work comes close, not even herpes outbreaks (also incurable) in the 70s.

the comment was not about the disease and Michelle's response was ridiculous especially in line with her being one of the worst offenders.
I'm not sure you even have to have reached 50 to be honest. Even though I'm younger I was conscious of my sexuality from a very early age, and I basically grew up thinking I was automatically going to die horribly, alone and in effective exile.

While I may not have had a full and objective understanding of what was going on, I was very very aware of the fear, hatred and demonisation through terms like 'gay cancer', 'cesspit of their own making' and media outrage at Diana shaking the hands of AIDS sufferers etc. I'm fairly sure it had a massive impact on my psyche.
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Old 03-02-2015, 14:36
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dont forget alexander made a Snide comment about catching 'something', like winkwink Bird flu.

i think we all know
which virus homophobic alexander was really suggesting.
Don't know about anyone else, but I'm not a mind-reader.
Are you?
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Old 03-02-2015, 14:41
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He did not make a statement about HIV the disease , he made a statement about Avoidance and Ostracizing and used it as an example. A very GOOD example as well. Unless you are over the age of 50 you likely have NO real idea of what it was like back then.

The suspicious and ostracizing of 'the gays' was blatant and harsh.

Kids and young adults who are making fun of perez for using this as an example .

name ONE other time in recent history that brutal and cruel ostracizing occurred to an individual that was 'different'. I cannot, nothing in my years of work comes close, not even herpes outbreaks (also incurable) in the 70s.

the comment was not about the disease and Michelle's response was ridiculous especially in line with her being one of the worst offenders.
Excellent response.
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Old 03-02-2015, 14:43
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dont forget alexander made a Snide comment about catching 'something', like winkwink Bird flu.

i think we all know which virus homophobic alexander was really suggesting.
..........and was Keith suggesting the same when he asked him not to sit on the counters and actually nominated him because of it? Were the viewers implying the same thing when they voted him the Most Unhygienic Housemate? Perhaps Alexander was unsure of Perez's cleanliness issues too. Of course that wouldn't suit those who see homophobic insults around every corner ~ funny he didn't have those problems with any other housemates, including Kav....so maybe not homophobic, just that he found Perez unhygienic.
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Old 03-02-2015, 14:48
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I don't see how that comment is so bad. The first AIDS patients would have been ostracised. That's how he felt. What's wrong with that, sure it's not as bad. but then is it an insult every time someone says they are starving??
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Old 03-02-2015, 14:52
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..........and was Keith suggesting the same when he asked him not to sit on the counters and actually nominated him because of it? Were the viewers implying the same thing when they voted him the Most Unhygienic Housemate? Perhaps Alexander was unsure of Perez's cleanliness issues too. Of course that wouldn't suit those who see homophobic insults around every corner ~ funny he didn't have those problems with any other housemates, including Kav....so maybe not homophobic, just that he found Perez unhygienic.
Keith didn't follow up a few minutes later saying 'I'll get in your ass' and 'you want some, sonny' and 'bam bam boom'. Neither did Keith then go on to describe Perez's face as 'faggot-ass' or suggest he'd know what he'd get back in the States.

I'm sure you understand the concept of context?
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Old 03-02-2015, 14:55
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He did not make a statement about HIV the disease , he made a statement about Avoidance and Ostracizing and used it as an example. A very GOOD example as well. Unless you are over the age of 50 you likely have NO real idea of what it was like back then.

The suspicious and ostracizing of 'the gays' was blatant and harsh.

Kids and young adults who are making fun of perez for using this as an example .

name ONE other time in recent history that brutal and cruel ostracizing occurred to an individual that was 'different'. I cannot, nothing in my years of work comes close, not even herpes outbreaks (also incurable) in the 70s.

the comment was not about the disease and Michelle's response was ridiculous especially in line with her being one of the worst offenders.
You didn't really respond to my post which started "Offended or not Perez comment About AIDS says a lot about him."

i'm gay .. I'm over 50...i remember that time..

Perez comment showed he self obsessed and desperate for attention despite his denials...

Your comment (given with plenty of time to access and consider) trying to equate his totally voluntary situation...

"name ONE other time in recent history that brutal and cruel ostracizing occurred to an individual that was 'different'."

With "brutal and cruel ostracizing" of historical significance .. God only knows what that says about you.
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Old 03-02-2015, 15:10
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Even though I've not heard him say it yet, it was an incredibly daft thing to say. I'm sure Perez could have chosen a less offensive thing to say. People sometimes say daft things in the heat of the moment and then regret it later on.
Wait til you hear it. It says about perez is that he us an over the too drama queen -but we knew that about him already. Apparently it is "how he feels".

Getting offended by this is like having conniptions that a teen girl tells her mum she hates her durjng a tantrum . Yes it's bad but clearly it should be taken in the context of who says it and why.
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Old 03-02-2015, 15:15
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when he thought that Callum's mother was a poet.
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Old 03-02-2015, 15:43
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when he thought that Callum's mother was a poet.
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Old 03-02-2015, 16:03
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When he made comment about breathing germs on the food is was later on the same day which Perez had stood next to alexanders bed coughing for an hour with a supposed bug! Nothing to do with homophobia
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Old 03-02-2015, 16:27
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He did not make a statement about HIV the disease , he made a statement about Avoidance and Ostracizing and used it as an example. A very GOOD example as well. Unless you are over the age of 50 you likely have NO real idea of what it was like back then.

The suspicious and ostracizing of 'the gays' was blatant and harsh.

Kids and young adults who are making fun of perez for using this as an example .

name ONE other time in recent history that brutal and cruel ostracizing occurred to an individual that was 'different'. I cannot, nothing in my years of work comes close, not even herpes outbreaks (also incurable) in the 70s.

the comment was not about the disease and Michelle's response was ridiculous especially in line with her being one of the worst offenders.
Well said. Perfect example of taking words out of context. And disgusting of Michelle to deliberately take it out of context in a sickening attempt to raise her own profile.

Her biggest hatred of Perez seems to be because he's 'gay' but doesn't conform to being a 'nice, lovable gay'. It's all about how Perez is a 'disgrace' to the 'gay' community. eer, if he were heterosexual would somebody be announcing in the diary room that' he was a disgrace to the heterosexual community'? I think not! They wouldn't even think of making such a sweeping statement. The woman's an idiot. People can be obnoxious no matter which way they lean.

Perez's behaviour shouldn't be incorporated into the context of whether he is gay or not. It's obvious he has behavioural problems which are inherent and nothing to do with whether he's gay or not. Michelle however likes to project tolerance of ALL gays through a holier than though persona, but her treatment of Perez shows a bigotry that doesn't quite gell with what comes out of her mouth. This is because her main hatred of Perez doesn't seem to be completely based on is behavioural problems, they stem from him having these behavioural problems and being 'gay' .
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Old 03-02-2015, 16:30
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He did not make a statement about HIV the disease , he made a statement about Avoidance and Ostracizing and used it as an example. A very GOOD example as well. Unless you are over the age of 50 you likely have NO real idea of what it was like back then.

The suspicious and ostracizing of 'the gays' was blatant and harsh.

Kids and young adults who are making fun of perez for using this as an example .

name ONE other time in recent history that brutal and cruel ostracizing occurred to an individual that was 'different'. I cannot, nothing in my years of work comes close, not even herpes outbreaks (also incurable) in the 70s.

the comment was not about the disease and Michelle's response was ridiculous especially in line with her being one of the worst offenders.
I was about back then and have a real idea of what it was like.

It wasn't like Perez being a tw*t in the BB house and having no friends.
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Old 03-02-2015, 16:30
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It makes me sick that people want this man to win. He's an utter disgrace.
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