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Having an opinion or generalising or making stereotypical comments..
Does not have to equate to bullying.
In my view, we can by way too sensitive about an opinion even if they seem extreme. Bullying is victimisation and can take all sorts of forms. Having an opinion is not. That's just my opinion
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Who said it was?
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If it's your opinion it's bullying
![]() It would depend what the opinion is to be honest. If the opinion is "Isolate the B******"...then I'd class that as bullying. Just my opinion
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That's just my opinion
![]() ![]() Not sure what you're referencing, but I agree with the sentiment. |
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If it's your opinion it's bullying
![]() It would depend what the opinion is to be honest. If the opinion is "Isolate the B******"...then I'd class that as bullying. Just my opinion ![]() |
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If it's your opinion it's bullying
![]() It would depend what the opinion is to be honest. If the opinion is "Isolate the B******"...then I'd class that as bullying. Just my opinion ![]() |
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Having an opinion such as "Everyone should isolate X person" is harmful and bullying.
Having an opinion such as Katie Hopkins is a bigot, on the other hand, is not bullying. It's not difficult. |
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Now this one is slightly tricky - granted. I believe Katie thought this was the best way to handle a bully in her opinion.
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Bingo Rabidwolverine!
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And that's why black is white, eh?
![]() Not saying she was right to say that.. Just they had got to a point they didn't know how to handle Perez's bullying. |
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Now this one is slightly tricky - granted. I believe Katie thought this was the best way to handle a bully in her opinion.
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If it's your opinion it's bullying
![]() It would depend what the opinion is to be honest. If the opinion is "Isolate the B******"...then I'd class that as bullying. Just my opinion ![]() Not just your opinion, mine too. |
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Eh?
Not saying she was right to say that.. Just they had got to a point they didn't know how to handle Perez's bullying. They did. Paranoia was rife. They really did believe Perez's pronouncements that he called all the shots. That he would break them one by one. Katie herself didn't isolate him, she took him on - full on wrecking ball stylee. Just my opinion
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Eh?
Not saying she was right to say that.. Just they had got to a point they didn't know how to handle Perez's bullying. |
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If it's your opinion it's bullying
![]() It would depend what the opinion is to be honest. If the opinion is "Isolate the B******"...then I'd class that as bullying. Just my opinion ![]() There are so many isolations placed by our government, communities and even at personal levels that it is frightening..... What about teachers that have affairs with their pupils, criminal records that cause an effective halt to any meaningful career, muslims being intimidated and isolated due to events that have no other connection than they share the same basic religeon, single white males being refused entry to public parks, women made to feel uncomfortable breast feeding.... the list goes on and on... Not all of these are universally accepted but they do happen and many enforce the isolations.. |
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Bullies generally operate from a position of power - individual physical strength is the classic school bully, for instance, or influence over weaker willed subservients who will do their bidding for them. Their primary weapon is intimidation in some form or another. I don't think you can say any of those things about Perez. You can, however, ascribe at least one of them to Hopkins.
I think maybe the housemates (led by Katie) couldn't be arsed with it after it became apparent. |
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Now this one is slightly tricky - granted. I believe Katie thought this was the best way to handle a bully in her opinion.
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Having an opinion is not bullying - yep, I don't think there would be many who would say that it was. They'd be quite strange if they did.
Generalising and stereotyping - while usually done negatively, and can be inaccurate and show laziness (sometimes even ignorance) I would agree thats not bullying either. I'd find it very strange to hear anyone suggesting stereotyping was bullying? Bullying can come in many forms but usually involves the harassing or intimidation of an individual, (usually to one who is seen as being more being more vulnerable than them or the most vulnerable in the group) constantly picking on them/goading them/insulting them for no good reason other than to make them feel bad (particularly in front of others) and can also include victimising/ostracising them from a group and trying to get others to do the same. |
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Perez's bullying? I didn't see it that way. Anyway, Hopkins doesn't need an excuse, as we're seeing now with her treatment of Pricey and Cheggers.
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Having an opinion such as "Everyone should isolate X person" is harmful and bullying.
Having an opinion such as Katie Hopkins is a bigot, on the other hand, is not bullying. It's not difficult. |
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It might be harmful and bullying in some people's opinion but it didn't happen so argument is mute
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If it's your opinion it's bullying
![]() It would depend what the opinion is to be honest. If the opinion is "Isolate the B******"...then I'd class that as bullying. Just my opinion ![]() |
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Having an opinion is not bullying - yep, I don't think there would be many who would say that it was. They'd be quite strange if they did.
Generalising and stereotyping - while usually done negatively, and can be inaccurate and show laziness (sometimes even ignorance) I would agree thats not bullying either. I'd find it very strange to hear anyone suggesting stereotyping was bullying? Bullying can come in many forms but usually involves the harassing or intimidation of an individual, (usually one to be seen as more being more vulnerable than them or the most vulnerable in the group) constantly picking on them/goading them/insulting them for no good reason other than to make them feel bad (particularly in front of others) and can also include victimising/ostracising them from a group and trying to get others to do the same. ![]() Also I would add I have seen some people shouting bully at some of Katie's sweeping generalisations.. |
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I agree with this post
![]() Also I would add I have seen some people shouting bully at some of Katie's sweeping generalisations.. Quite a few of her generalisations that shes made outside of the house have been ignorant, inaccurate, insulting and unecessary, but I wouldn't consider any of it to resemble bullying.In the house however, I have seen her exhibiting bullying behaviour on more than one occasion. |
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