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Michelle asking, has she been fooled By Katie Hopkins?
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anne_666
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by bootyache:
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I can imagine them married to each other, hanging from a chandelier and killing each other.

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Except he's gay! That would be a feather in her very proftable sexual cap of male conquests.
anne_666
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by ksmiggy:
“It's probably as much to do with the fact he is not behaving the same way he did at the start.
It does amaze me that people still assume anything they see in the big brother house from anyone is them actually being them, they all hold back to some degree”

He's gone nuts a few times in the last few days and they've certainly locked horns.
mmpfb
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by anne_666:
“Except he's gay! That would be a feather in her very proftable sexual cap of male conquests.”

She's not bothered about shagging married men. I'm not sure she'd see him being gay much of a hindrance...
Alrightmate
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by anne_666:
“Mmm, it doesn't. She told KP the other night in the bedroom that it's KH who is annoyed by Perez. She said she loves his stories and thinks he's funny and he's done nothing to personally offend her. Callum in this clip being outed for yacking behind Perez's back, also says he had done nothing personally to offend him until the row the other night. It's ""everyone else" he's offended' Then we had Kav in the bathroom http://bigbrother.channel5.com/day-2...-hes-miserable

Saying exactly the same thing. So who exactly is everyone else he's offended?
Why do grown adults decide it's ok to bully people because Hopkins orders it? Because she was cheered and she'll isolate them if they don't do as she commands?
And of course the rest of the gang will nom them.”

That's a very interesting point you make. That housemates are against him because of the offense he causes to others. But pin them down as individuals and ask them how he's offended them personally and they appear to say that he doesn't offend them, they're against him because of how he offends others.

I think that this suggests the possibility that they are acting as a group, acting within the safety as a group, and that their thoughts are more as a group rather than as their individual selves.

Quote:
“Because she was cheered and she'll isolate them if they don't do as she commands?
And of course the rest of the gang will nom them
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This quote of yours is what I believe to be the most significant reality within that house.
nitpikkin2
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by anne_666:
“Her wanabee gang have all benefited. However seeing her as some kind of "cheered" hero and best mate, was a huge mistake. I would bet that none of them will ever see her again. Not that they'll want to when they find out about her backstabbing. How many of them has she slagged off in the Sun so far? You would think the American at least would cotton on to what she thinks about them. She told them she was more skilled as a Brit than they are last night. Another foot in mouth, are they dense?”

If you were devising a villain for a novel you couldn't do better than base it on Hopkins. She was supposed to be the anti-hero who moves into the light (that was Davidson's journey) but she has just got darker and darker.
o0Autumn0o
03-02-2015
Hopkins does what's in her best interests, it's not hard to work out
nitpikkin2
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by mmpfb:
“She's not bothered about shagging married men. I'm not sure she'd see him being gay much of a hindrance...”

Even with Perez's teeny weeny penis that she liked to mock?
Dave_62
03-02-2015
Just like Perez has told her, she will look at herself very differently when she gets out. Her husband was almost apologising for her yesterday.

What has Perez been wrong about?
nitpikkin2
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by o0Autumn0o:
“Hopkins does what's in her best interests, it's not hard to work out”

True except this might not work in her best interest as there's still the fact that her friends are smarting from her her becoming a turncoat in a cause she enrolled them in

*clenches teeth in anticipation of the fallout*
chipbuttie1
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by anne_666:
“http://bigbrother.channel5.com/day-2...le-been-fooled

Seems a new game is afoot.

KH chumming up with Perez.

Is she allowing anyone else in her gang to do this, I wonder?”

Michelle shouldn't have had her head up KH's bumhole for the past three weeks then. Too late she has shown herself to be a gullible, easily manipulated little lap dog. Hope she's out first on Wednesday.

Oh and I hope KP has nothing to do with her after the show.
Alrightmate
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by humpty dumpty:
“Which is why I admire Nadia (faults and all) a lot more than Michelle. She showed courage and integrity and her opinion was not dependent on what she thought made her look good on the outside, or kept her in favour in the house, or altered depending on how others opinons changed, in order to keep in with them. The irony of Nadia being accused of backing the wrong horse. Even if people believed she had, she did it for her own right reasons. Michelle not only backed the wrong horse, but did so out of cowardly reasons, in a bid to be popular.”

I do too. I think that she went far too early and delivered a lot more than others in there.
I agree with the rest of your post that she appeared to have more conviction than the vast majority of the house even if her choices weren't popular. And out of all the 'Loose Women' who have appeared on CBB I easily prefer her over all the others.
Kelley18644
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by bootyache:
“


I can imagine them married to each other, hanging from a chandelier and killing each other.

”

How very Kathleen Turner-Michael Douglas War of the Roses of you.
MargMck
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by mmpfb:
“She's not bothered about shagging married men. I'm not sure she'd see him being gay much of a hindrance...”

But no dejected wife to smirk about. However, it's possible that 'Orrible 'Opkins could be catnip to some as yet to be defined sub-section of the gay male population.
After all look at Thatcher's cabinet, some definite closet inhabitants there, all slavering over her.
o0Autumn0o
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by nitpikkin2:
“True except this might not work in her best interest as there's still the fact that her friends are smarting from her her becoming a turncoat in a cause she enrolled them in

*clenches teeth in anticipation of the fallout*”

I didn't think of that
anne_666
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by nitpikkin2:
“True except this might not work in her best interest as there's still the fact that her friends are smarting from her her becoming a turncoat in a cause she enrolled them in

*clenches teeth in anticipation of the fallout*”

There aren't any further nominations. She's got nothing to lose, no-one matters to her but herself and doesn't care about upsetting anyone.
Alrightmate
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by anne_666:
“I've come across one woman who behaved exactly like this.

I wish they could all see what's she's written in her Sun column.

They will and probably feel stupid but they won't see Hopkins for dust.”

Have you got any links to what Katie H has written about her 'friends' in her Sun column?

If they didn't know that Hopkins has been playing them for fools, imagine how stupid they're going to feel if they're reminded that Perez told them this and they didn't believe him?
On that Perez will have been vindicated, and oh how they're going to absolutely hate that.
CrashDavis
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“I do too. I think that she went far too early and delivered a lot more than others in there.
I agree with the rest of your post that she appeared to have more conviction than the vast majority of the house even if her choices weren't popular. And out of all the 'Loose Women' who have appeared on CBB I easily prefer her over all the others.”

Loved Nadia, despite her minor flaws, but sure nobody's perfect! Strong willed, intelligent and loyal, even in the face of a pack of numpties and a hostile audience. Compare how she acted and reacted within the house to these two planks now.... red alert time for the two of them since Cami got evicted. Priceless stuff, but I worry that the general public are as thick as the two of them hope.
anne_666
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“Have you got any links to what Katie H has written about her 'friends' in her Sun column?”

They're all in the forum somewhere but I have no idea which threads. The Sun has a pay wall and I can't access them.
humpty dumpty
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“I do too. I think that she went far too early and delivered a lot more than others in there.
I agree with the rest of your post that she appeared to have more conviction than the vast majority of the house even if her choices weren't popular. And out of all the 'Loose Women' who have appeared on CBB I easily prefer her over all the others.”

yep, me too
oathy
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by planets:
“wait, Michelle is upset Hopkins isn't still ostracising Perez?
She's angry that Hopkins is talking to Perez?
QED Michelle is advocating ostracising people.
Nice.....how does that fit with "i'm here for the outcasts" exactly?”

LOL Exactly given her background I somehow don't think Perez is the most annoying person she's met

Hopkins isn't an idiot she must have realised last night was a perfect time for Perez to go. And Given KP is having her hair done in the house like she isn't being told the KH/Perez saga is a Core element of the series.

Michelle needed to stand back and do her own thing what she actually did was latch onto Katie Hopkins and devoid herself of any responsibility.
nitpikkin2
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by anne_666:
“There aren't any further nominations. She's got nothing to lose and no-one matters to her but herself.”

Right but how will this play out with the audience? It looks so two-faced and I'm not sure Michelle is going to bite her tongue and politely smile to the final night.
mmpfb
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by MargMck:
“But no dejected wife to smirk about.”

This is very true. And I suspect that stealing a man from another woman is part of the initial attraction for Hopkins.
Alrightmate
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by vald:
“It could also be seen as her dropping her alliance now that nominations are over. She has no need for them now.”

True, it could.
cah
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by vald:
“It also shows that if KH and her gang had engaged Perez from the start they might have seen there is more to him. KH actually looks as if she's enjoying the conversation.”

As i've said on other Threads Days ago Katie.H and Perez have been in cahoots from the beginning and were doing what they were cast and paid for

Now the end is in sight they've been told to go on to the next stage of making friends as it were and be Civilish to one another ..that way the Win is left open for whoever was supposed to Win from the start

It's all made up shite in there and i'm surprised more people can't see it
sheila blige
03-02-2015
If the final two were to be Katie Horse and Michelle - as much as I loathe Katie Horse - I'd rather she won than Michelle. If there's one thing worse than a bully - its a bully's weak, lily-livered bezzie mate! Which Michelle was more than happy to be when it suited her.
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