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NOW can you see what a knob Perez is???
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BellaRosa
04-02-2015
Originally Posted by Noush:
“Calling all Perez fans, do you seriously still like this guy and want him to win after that rant and Calum and Michelle?

He said Katie P is the only one he will be friends with once he leaves the house. Ouch! I bet that hurt, Nadia!!!!! He soon forgot about her didn't he?!?

He is off his head and has serious mental health issues! Unhinged ain't even the word!

Vile.”


Poor Nadia ......
BlueStreak
04-02-2015
Originally Posted by anne_666:
“Listening to some of his observations, I struggle to believe he's actually watched much of this series. His comments about Michelle, in particular, were so far from the truth of most of her behaviour.”

Exactly! His comments were tantamount to sticking a wet finger in the air to see which way the wind is blowing.

It was pretty obvious he dislikes Perez which is his prerogative but you know what it's like, just because someone is classed an 'expert' some will always take whatever drivel comes out of their mouth as gospel.

Don't even get me started on Dr. Dance lol.

BellaRosa
04-02-2015
Originally Posted by zabe:
“On last nights BBOTS I heard the most sense and straight talk spoken by a psychologist. He critiqued all the HMs (imo fairly and constructively) and when asked about a winner he said that a win for Perez would validate the appalling behaviour he has exhibited on CBB....and that for me speaks volumes.”

I think this show has lost all it's morals. Denise Welsh and Charlotte were winner. What awful role models they are. Perez as a winner will suit very well with them 2.
Karen_Bremner
04-02-2015
Originally Posted by Noush:
“Calling all Perez fans, do you seriously still like this guy and want him to win after that rant and Calum and Michelle?

He said Katie P is the only one he will be friends with once he leaves the house. Ouch! I bet that hurt, Nadia!!!!! He soon forgot about her didn't he?!?

He is off his head and has serious mental health issues! Unhinged ain't even the word!

Vile.”

I want him to win even more! Why is he not allowed to be honest when Hideous Hopkins uses this as her excuse to be vile to everyone? He told the truth; when he leaves the house, the only person (in there) he will stay friends with is Katie. He doesn't like anyone else. He is told on a daily basis that he is hated; not disliked, hated. Why is it okay to say that to him but not to anyone else?

As for Michelle, I have never once heard her talk about her 'cause' or reason to be in there. All she has said is that she wants to win and agree with everything Hopkins has said; often to the point of bullying. She claims to be a strong character but she appears very weak.
zabe
04-02-2015
Your 1st Post

Appalling behaviour has been supported in the past and those that have behaved in an appalling manner have gone on to win. Why should it be condoned now?

Go figure.

Your 2nd Post
[quote=BlueStreak;76812728]It's pretty simple really.

Graham said that if Perez won it would be condoning bad behaviour.

I was merely pointing out that bad behaviour hadn't been condoned in the past ie take a look at previous winners.


So those that show bad behaviour (call it what you will) have indeed won in the past, so if Perez won CBB that would make it no different to some previous winners.

Which of these statements do you actually support?

My point was that validating bad behaviours allows people to think that is an acceptable way to behave.........I DON'T believe t is....therefore I would not like Perez to win.
the_chef
04-02-2015
Originally Posted by Karen_Bremner:
“I want him to win even more! Why is he not allowed to be honest when Hideous Hopkins uses this as her excuse to be vile to everyone? He told the truth; when he leaves the house, the only person (in there) he will stay friends with is Katie. He doesn't like anyone else. He is told on a daily basis that he is hated; not disliked, hated. Why is it okay to say that to him but not to anyone else?

As for Michelle, I have never once heard her talk about her 'cause' or reason to be in there. All she has said is that she wants to win and agree with everything Hopkins has said; often to the point of bullying. She claims to be a strong character but she appears very weak.”

Going to ask a very simple question here - why do you think he is hated?
zabe
04-02-2015
Originally Posted by anne_666:
“Listening to some of his observations, I struggle to believe he's actually watched much of this series. His comments about Michelle, in particular, were so far from the truth of most of her behaviour.”

and of course you would know so much more than a trained professional like Graham Stanier......

Graham Stanier is a qualified and highly experienced practicing psychotherapist known for his excellent therapeutic skills, compassion, and good humoured warmth. He is a Psychology Graduate with a Masters degree in psychotherapy and counselling, and has diplomas in hypno psychotherapy and humanistic counselling and supervision.

perhaps you'd care to show us your qualifications?
BlueStreak
04-02-2015
Originally Posted by zabe:
“and of course you would know so much more than a trained professional like Graham Stanier......

Graham Stanier is a qualified and highly experienced practicing psychotherapist known for his excellent therapeutic skills, compassion, and good humoured warmth. He is a Psychology Graduate with a Masters degree in psychotherapy and counselling, and has diplomas in hypno psychotherapy and humanistic counselling and supervision.

perhaps you'd care to show us your qualifications?”

I don't think anne has said she's a qualified psychotherapist has she?

Even you must agree that Graham wasn't that good with the painting thing. He was convinced the first one was Perez's which was wrong for starters.

Just because you are qualified in something doesn't mean you excel at it.

As for my posts, you are totally missing my point, and possibly not actually digesting what point I am trying (and failing it would appear) to make.

BlueStreak
04-02-2015
[quote=zabe;76813258]Your 1st Post

Appalling behaviour has been supported in the past and those that have behaved in an appalling manner have gone on to win. Why should it be condoned now?

Go figure.

Your 2nd Post
Originally Posted by BlueStreak:
“It's pretty simple really.

Graham said that if Perez won it would be condoning bad behaviour.

I was merely pointing out that bad behaviour hadn't been condoned in the past ie take a look at previous winners.


So those that show bad behaviour (call it what you will) have indeed won in the past, so if Perez won CBB that would make it no different to some previous winners.

Which of these statements do you actually support?

My point was that validating bad behaviours allows people to think that is an acceptable way to behave.........I DON'T believe t is....therefore I would not like Perez to win.”

BIB. It certainly doesn't make me think it's an acceptable way to behave. Nor do I think many forum members on here would think so either.

DiamondDoll
04-02-2015
Originally Posted by zabe:
“and of course you would know so much more than a trained professional like Graham Stanier......

Graham Stanier is a qualified and highly experienced practicing psychotherapist known for his excellent therapeutic skills, compassion, and good humoured warmth. He is a Psychology Graduate with a Masters degree in psychotherapy and counselling, and has diplomas in hypno psychotherapy and humanistic counselling and supervision.

perhaps you'd care to show us your qualifications?”

Thanks for that.
I didn't know GS was so well qualified.
Viridiana
04-02-2015
Originally Posted by zabe:
“On last nights BBOTS I heard the most sense and straight talk spoken by a psychologist. He critiqued all the HMs (imo fairly and constructively) and when asked about a winner he said that a win for Perez would validate the appalling behaviour he has exhibited on CBB....and that for me speaks volumes.”

Not Really, A win for Perez is a massive slap in the face in the vicious Katie H, and that's enough for me.

Big Brother should be won by whoever plays the game best, it's always a balance between giving good television and being liked, it was never about finding the "better" person. This year almost everyone has been hideous for different reasons, so i see no point of singling out Perez for viciousness when he at least gives good TV ( the only reason why he's still there).
DiamondDoll
04-02-2015
Originally Posted by Viridiana:
“Not Really, A win for Perez is a massive slap in the face in the vicious Katie H, and that's enough for me.

Big Brother should be won by whoever plays the game best, it's always a balance between giving good television and being liked, it was never about finding the "better" person. This year almost everyone has been hideous for different reasons, so i see no point of singling out Perez for viciousness when he at least gives good TV ( the only reason why he's still there).”

Sorry Viridiana I cannot and will not share your view.

I have seen a revolting, foul-mouthed, attention-seeking moron and he has totally ruined my experience of this CBB...........so much so that I may never watch another series.
amyawake
04-02-2015
Originally Posted by DiamondDoll:
“Imho he is a horrible, foul-mouthed and revolting HM who has totally ruined my experience of CBB. ”

Ruined? Really? Not amused by his more outlandish activities? Oh well....many here were

As for revolting...someone else in the house deserves that title more.
amyawake
04-02-2015
Originally Posted by zabe:
“On last nights BBOTS I heard the most sense and straight talk spoken by a psychologist. He critiqued all the HMs (imo fairly and constructively) and when asked about a winner he said that a win for Perez would validate the appalling behaviour he has exhibited on CBB....and that for me speaks volumes.”

As does a win for the bigot and bully Hopkins! If she won it would be a ringing endorsement that such behaviour is OK.
amyawake
04-02-2015
Originally Posted by zabe:
“Fraid I have to disagree with you...........Helen Wood won in the summer, so people have already condoned bullying, foul mouthed, duplicitious behaviour and then rewarded her for it..........I'd hate Perez to feel that his behaviour was equally condone.........God knows what he'd do, say or write next!”

But Helen Wood does not have a voice as such, i.e. Hopkins writes for a newspaper.
amyawake
04-02-2015
Originally Posted by BellaRosa:
“Poor Nadia ......”

No...several FMs have pointed out that Perez was referring to who was left in the house.
Dangermoose
04-02-2015
Originally Posted by amyawake:
“But Helen Wood does not have a voice as such, i.e. Hopkins writes for a newspaper.”

But Helen is a journalist who writes for The Daily ...... umm .... thingy, in case you hadn't heard
zabe
04-02-2015
Originally Posted by BlueStreak:
“I don't think anne has said she's a qualified psychotherapist has she?

Even you must agree that Graham wasn't that good with the painting thing. He was convinced the first one was Perez's which was wrong for starters.

Just because you are qualified in something doesn't mean you excel at it.

As for my posts, you are totally missing my point, and possibly not actually digesting what point I am trying (and failing it would appear) to make.

”

I have to disagree once more............you aren't making a coherent point when you contradict yourself in 2 posts on the same subject on the same page.

Turning to your points about Anne......If Anne has no qualifications then why presume to dismiss his qualified opinion with a unqualified one of her own which simply enhanced her support for Perez and dislike of Michelle ..............".His comments about Michelle, in particular, were so far from the truth of most of her behaviour.". As for Anne....perhaps you'd allow her to use the right of reply for herself rather than you posting what you suppose she might think or say, I think that would be fairer.
Tracy
04-02-2015
Originally Posted by Noush:
“Calling all Perez fans, do you seriously still like this guy and want him to win after that rant and Calum and Michelle?

He said Katie P is the only one he will be friends with once he leaves the house. Ouch! I bet that hurt, Nadia!!!!! He soon forgot about her didn't he?!?

He is off his head and has serious mental health issues! Unhinged ain't even the word!

Vile.”

He's a huge gigantic knob the biggest knob in the world.

That's why he a great housemate.

Perez to win.
GreenEyes8
04-02-2015
Anyone with an ATOM of Intelligence will have see The Knob for what he is on Day 1 !!
BellaRosa
04-02-2015
Originally Posted by amyawake:
“No...several FMs have pointed out that Perez was referring to who was left in the house.”

Really!! They must be Nadia fans.

She is no use to him now and don't see him keeping in touch with her tbh.
zabe
04-02-2015
Originally Posted by Tracy:
“He's a huge gigantic knob the biggest knob in the world.

That's why he a great housemate.

Perez to win.”

There are hundreds of thousands of nobheads, for example homophobes, racists and rapists who all feel that their bigoted vile behaviours and beliefs are valid, does that mean they should be celebrated, feted and allowed to think that their behaviours are acceptable?
anne_666
04-02-2015
Originally Posted by zabe:
“and of course you would know so much more than a trained professional like Graham Stanier......

Graham Stanier is a qualified and highly experienced practicing psychotherapist known for his excellent therapeutic skills, compassion, and good humoured warmth. He is a Psychology Graduate with a Masters degree in psychotherapy and counselling, and has diplomas in hypno psychotherapy and humanistic counselling and supervision.

perhaps you'd care to show us your qualifications?”

Why, would seeing my qualifications help you understand my point?

I have my opinion and you disagree.

I am not the topic of this thread. Neither myself nor my qualifications in this field are up for discussion.

Your two posts discussing and attacking me are wholly inappropriate.

Please stop it.
Tracy
04-02-2015
Originally Posted by zabe:
“There are hundreds of thousands of nobheads, for example homophobes, racists and rapists who all feel that their bigoted vile behaviours and beliefs are valid, does that mean they should be celebrated, feted and allowed to think that their behaviours are acceptable?”

Rreally homophobes, racists and rapists are ****ing nobheads cant believe you have tried to lump him in with them you need to take a deep breath.

Hes a great pantomime villain perfect for a show like this.
amyawake
04-02-2015
Originally Posted by Dangermoose:
“But Helen is a journalist who writes for The Daily ...... umm .... thingy, in case you hadn't heard ”

Oh really? Are you sure? I could find nothing on this.
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