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Katie H is worse than Perez
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wildpark
03-02-2015
Perez is such a revolting species of humanity (even though the points he made in tonight's episode were all spot on) this has distracted me from Katie H. He is a repellant narcissist, who does evil out of indifference to others feelings, but she goes out of her way to form little gangs, needle people, and try to humiliate them. Life seems to have no meaning to her other than upsetting people. There is no morality there just a bitch with no redeeming features.
Helsbels46
03-02-2015
I don't like Perez particularly but Hopkins is far worse IMO. She is the type of person I would least like to meet in my life.
LurkingGood
03-02-2015
Anyone who thinks Hopkins is worse than Perez either has not been watching the show or decided before BB started.
SegaGamer
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by Helsbels46:
“I don't like Perez particularly but Hopkins is far worse IMO. She is the type of person I would least like to meet in my life.”

Definitely, but i would equally like to put her in her place in an argument. She deserves to be made a fool of for the things she says. Actually, it's already happened, Phillip Schofield of all people made her look stupid
Captain Kipper
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by LurkingGood:
“Anyone who thinks Hopkins is worse than Perez either has not been watching the show or decided before BB started.”

I think a bit of the former but it's a hell of a lot of the latter.
Deb Arkle
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by LurkingGood:
“Anyone who thinks Hopkins is worse than Perez either has not been watching the show or decided before BB started.”

Perez is a complete & utter WUM, pain in the arse & I'd hate to share a house with him - but Katie H has gone out of her way to isolate & intimidate him, which IMO is a worse thing to do.
Sasparella
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by LurkingGood:
“Anyone who thinks Hopkins is worse than Perez either has not been watching the show or decided before BB started.”

BIB Six of one and half a dozen of the other.
Flowes
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by LurkingGood:
“Anyone who thinks Hopkins is worse than Perez either has not been watching the show or decided before BB started.”

I have been watching the show, and I didn't decide before BB started, KH is worse than Perez.
Mrs Teapot
03-02-2015
They are both of the same ilk hence I don't want either of them to win.
JVS
03-02-2015
I don't see Perez as being evil, just annoyingly opinionated. Most of his rants have been a response to some provocation.

On the other hand, Katie Hopkins is a nasty piece of work who delights in upsetting those she perceives to be her inferiors.

My main criticism of Perez is that he is constantly letting Hopkins off the hook. It happened this week over her ADHD opinions and again by diverting attention to himself during Keith's rant towards her.
oathy
03-02-2015
she did it again. I think it was patsy wasn't it? who said she starts a row gets everyone angry then toddles off to bed "nothing to do with me guv".

I actually don't think she's intelligent enough to realise what Cheggars was actually saying
didn't help of course one of her lesser minions was given the boot but then if she started ranting at the public that's her winning out the window so Keith was the next option the same with Calum they were so Angry Cami was evicted and not one of the other lot.

Problem Katie H has because she talks posh and knows enough long words she learned from the dictionary she uses that = look how very clever I am. But what actually comes out of her mouth is grade A Bull plops.

I posted In another thread she is just one big caricature knowing she causes enough offence that's going to give her enough TV work for the next 6 months easily and maybe a few shows on Channel 5.

Katie Hopkins = Living on the dole
Katie Hopkins = by god you've got ugly kids and they are Ginger
Katie Hopkins =Fat again and hating it.

her entire stint is just like others since it moved to channel 5 one long audition
Sasparella
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by Deb Arkle:
“Perez is a complete & utter WUM, pain in the arse & I'd hate to share a house with him - but Katie H has gone out of her way to isolate & intimidate him, which IMO is a worse thing to do.”

Has she managed it ? No she hasn't. Has he manged to get people to walk by harrassing them constantly or waving a rulebook ? Yes he has, so who's worse ?
sheila blige
03-02-2015
Are the housemates (or were they up until the show we've just seen) under the impression that they have one more round of nominations left? If so KH is in for a bit of a surprise - no sooner had Cami left than she was steering the remainder of the house into nominating Keith - but its out of her hands now though isn't it?
Purple.
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by LurkingGood:
“Anyone who thinks Hopkins is worse than Perez either has not been watching the show or decided before BB started.”

This.

And I really disliked Katie before the show.
Helsbels46
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by SegaGamer:
“Definitely, but i would equally like to put her in her place in an argument. She deserves to be made a fool of for the things she says. Actually, it's already happened, Phillip Schofield of all people made her look stupid ”

Enlighten me...what did Philip Schofield do?

I really wish that somebody really could put her in her place...
sheila blige
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by Sasparella:
“Has she managed it ? No she hasn't. Has he manged to get people to walk by harrassing them constantly or waving a rulebook ? Yes he has, so who's worse ?”

Yes she HAS managed to isolate people - I don't know how you can say that she hasn't.
Deb Arkle
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by Sasparella:
“Has she managed it ? No she hasn't. Has he manged to get people to walk by harrassing them constantly or waving a rulebook ? Yes he has, so who's worse ?”

Alex walked because he couldn't control his temper, so IMO that's 50/50 Alex/Perez.
SegaGamer
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by Helsbels46:
“Enlighten me...what did Philip Schofield do?

I really wish that somebody really could put her in her place...”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Adddd7Hhqqg
Sasparella
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by sheila blige:
“Yes she HAS managed to isolate people - I don't know how you can say that she hasn't.”

Who ? Perez has always had others to talk to, and he couldn't care less if they don't talk to him, he talks at them still anyway.
Helenbemerry
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by Deb Arkle:
“Perez is a complete & utter WUM, pain in the arse & I'd hate to share a house with him - but Katie H has gone out of her way to isolate & intimidate him, which IMO is a worse thing to do.”

Did you watch the show tonight? Prez has admitted that he doesn't give a shit about anyone in the house except for Katie P, he doesn't want to be friends with anyone so he has isolated himself. As for Katie H intimidating him, when has that happened? He seems more than happy to stand up to her, insult her and have an argument with her so doesn't look very intimidated to me.
Sasparella
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by Deb Arkle:
“Alex walked because he couldn't control his temper, so IMO that's 50/50 Alex/Perez.”

Alex walked because Perez wouldn't leave him be, 100% Perez.
OMGItsAnnie
03-02-2015
Can't believe how many people are blinded by Perez, he's 100 more times worse than Katie.
B_grizzle
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by Captain Kipper:
“I think a bit of the former but it's a hell of a lot of the latter.”

Nah Mr Kipper, you're bang off the mark again. Totally agree with OP.

The main distinction between the two is malicious intent.

Katie H consistently demonstrates more malicious intent than Perez and shows herself to be the real bully.

- They say a true bully goes for the weak.....and that's exactly what Hopkins does, time and time again.
- They say a true bully surrounds themselves with strong and popular people and that's exactly what Katie H does with Michelle
- They say a true bully delights in isolating and punishing others, and that's exactly she does.

There are numerous examples inside the house attacking, calling Alicia stupid and attacking her parenting, turning on Keith and attempting to turn the group against him (because she sees him as her biggest competition)

There are numerous examples outside the house, attacking ginger, overweight, minority groups and those going through suffering,

I'm sure she has her history, I'm sure she has reasons for turning out the way she has, but she is one nasty piece of work.

Perez might be attention seeking, loud, rude, provocative and even a game player but he's no bully.

And that is why he is by far the lesser of 2 evils.
OMGItsAnnie
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by Deb Arkle:
“Alex walked because he couldn't control his temper, so IMO that's 50/50 Alex/Perez.”

He got him kicked out.
Helsbels46
03-02-2015
Originally Posted by SegaGamer:
“https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Adddd7Hhqqg”

Class!!!

How stupid did she look...her neck (which tends to go very red when she's under pressure) was positively crimson!!
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