The producers can try and make amends by showing these clips to the housemates.
BB's BIAS in favour of "The Gang".
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CH5 and BB have created a monster of a show where they have allowed bullying to be portrayed as entertainment. It is their responsability totally.
With bullying being a major problem especially since the internet and social media being a easy tool to the bully. One would have thought BB and CH5 and with certain of the H/Ms they put in this CBB have shown how wrong and ugly this trait is. All they have done is manipulated the viewers with editing in order to make money.
So, with the opportunity to show how wrong bullying is, they have now opened up the debate about themselves rather than the show.
CH5 and BB are now the story in my view.
They have a couple of days to change this situation. Lets wait and see.
With bullying being a major problem especially since the internet and social media being a easy tool to the bully. One would have thought BB and CH5 and with certain of the H/Ms they put in this CBB have shown how wrong and ugly this trait is. All they have done is manipulated the viewers with editing in order to make money.
So, with the opportunity to show how wrong bullying is, they have now opened up the debate about themselves rather than the show.
CH5 and BB are now the story in my view.
They have a couple of days to change this situation. Lets wait and see.
Originally Posted by humpty dumpty:
“I'm not 100% sure of this (if anyone does know they can let me know)....but I was sure It was mentioned that Katie H went to the diary room to tell them her plans for her new game? If this is the case, Its the drama that BB usually thrives on - a housemate spelling out her intention to ostracise a housemate and encouraging others to do the same. Surely more dramatic than listening to Callum in the diary room telling us how he's going to stay cool over the next few days and not let anything get to him?
It was dramatic and very relevant in every way to the dynamics of the house and explaining resulting behaviours, so you can only conclude that it was a deliberate decision to leave it out.”
“I'm not 100% sure of this (if anyone does know they can let me know)....but I was sure It was mentioned that Katie H went to the diary room to tell them her plans for her new game? If this is the case, Its the drama that BB usually thrives on - a housemate spelling out her intention to ostracise a housemate and encouraging others to do the same. Surely more dramatic than listening to Callum in the diary room telling us how he's going to stay cool over the next few days and not let anything get to him?
It was dramatic and very relevant in every way to the dynamics of the house and explaining resulting behaviours, so you can only conclude that it was a deliberate decision to leave it out.”
Absolutely. I vaguely remember that. How long ago was it?
Originally Posted by anne_666:
“Absolutely. I vaguely remember that. How long ago was it?”
“Absolutely. I vaguely remember that. How long ago was it?”
As far as I know it was 2 days ago (so should have been put in last nights edits)
Originally Posted by bootyache:
“I never seen that clip before.
It's interesting that KH would mention Maggie Thatcher and the poll tax. The poll tax was Maggie's downfall and led to riots because of it's unfairness. It had to be done away with. Yet KH mentions this as if it was some kind of achievement. It's a very blinkered view and already marked down in UK history as a massive fail but this seems to bypass KH completely.
Bullying is an ugly trait. I've experienced this myself. I did not give into it though. But the bully twists and turns things incessantly and especially when they are caught out. And when confronted, they never admit it. They will introduce anything into the conversation rather than own up.
I think bullying comes from childhood. If it's encouraged in the home then the bully knows no better. If a child is bullied by the parents, they may become bullies themselves. But many children who have suffered bullying will not stand for it and often help others who are bullied as they have experienced it themselves.
When my children were younger I have witnessed some parents (not many) encouraging their children to bully in school and in sports. So, unless the child has the wherewithal not to take notice of the parent, the child can be stunted in their growth mentally IMO.”
“I never seen that clip before.
It's interesting that KH would mention Maggie Thatcher and the poll tax. The poll tax was Maggie's downfall and led to riots because of it's unfairness. It had to be done away with. Yet KH mentions this as if it was some kind of achievement. It's a very blinkered view and already marked down in UK history as a massive fail but this seems to bypass KH completely.
Bullying is an ugly trait. I've experienced this myself. I did not give into it though. But the bully twists and turns things incessantly and especially when they are caught out. And when confronted, they never admit it. They will introduce anything into the conversation rather than own up.
I think bullying comes from childhood. If it's encouraged in the home then the bully knows no better. If a child is bullied by the parents, they may become bullies themselves. But many children who have suffered bullying will not stand for it and often help others who are bullied as they have experienced it themselves.
When my children were younger I have witnessed some parents (not many) encouraging their children to bully in school and in sports. So, unless the child has the wherewithal not to take notice of the parent, the child can be stunted in their growth mentally IMO.”
I totally agree. To have this offered up as entertainment for any age group and highly relevant clips omitted, simply to support the bullies, is completely unacceptable.
Originally Posted by humpty dumpty:
“As far as I know it was 2 days ago (so should have been put in last nights edits)”
“As far as I know it was 2 days ago (so should have been put in last nights edits)”
It was in a C5 website clip?
Originally Posted by anne_666:
“It was in a C5 website clip?”
“It was in a C5 website clip?”
I honestly can't remember ...I think Katie H either mentioned to the housemates in one of the VTs that she'd just been to diary room to tell them about her game, or I read it on here from someone who had read it in one of the news updates. It was definitely mentioned. However, regardless of the diary room, the VT scenes themselves should have been shown, and I'm convinced it would have knocked Katie H off her top spot if it had been shown as it would have put a lot of things into perspective.
Originally Posted by TenDollar:
“The producers can try and make amends by showing these clips to the housemates.”
“The producers can try and make amends by showing these clips to the housemates.”
I really don't think they will. After last night's show I was furious having seen the 3 clips from that day on their website left out completely. The two about Hopkins isolating Keith and KP and Perez outing Callum, after their row. They may show the Perez clip as it happened later. The other two were during the day so they won't be included. They are also too damning of the chosen one..
Originally Posted by bootyache:
“CH5 and BB have created a monster of a show where they have allowed bullying to be portrayed as entertainment. It is their responsability totally.
With bullying being a major problem especially since the internet and social media being a easy tool to the bully. One would have thought BB and CH5 and with certain of the H/Ms they put in this CBB have shown how wrong and ugly this trait is. All they have done is manipulated the viewers with editing in order to make money.
So, with the opportunity to show how wrong bullying is, they have now opened up the debate about themselves rather than the show.
CH5 and BB are now the story in my view.
They have a couple of days to change this situation. Lets wait and see.”
“CH5 and BB have created a monster of a show where they have allowed bullying to be portrayed as entertainment. It is their responsability totally.
With bullying being a major problem especially since the internet and social media being a easy tool to the bully. One would have thought BB and CH5 and with certain of the H/Ms they put in this CBB have shown how wrong and ugly this trait is. All they have done is manipulated the viewers with editing in order to make money.
So, with the opportunity to show how wrong bullying is, they have now opened up the debate about themselves rather than the show.
CH5 and BB are now the story in my view.
They have a couple of days to change this situation. Lets wait and see.
”
This is exactly what I'm thinking. Without a dramatic turn around bullying has been allowed and even lauded. I really believed BB would show the two Hopkins isolating K and KP clips as part of their own redemption process after weeks of nasty behaviour..
Originally Posted by JVS:
“I think Katie H is considered their 'prize' booking, they've given her a lot of leeway in the show. BB may be just anti-Perez rather than pro her arse-licking gang, though. BBBOTS makes no secret of the fact they hate Perez.”
“I think Katie H is considered their 'prize' booking, they've given her a lot of leeway in the show. BB may be just anti-Perez rather than pro her arse-licking gang, though. BBBOTS makes no secret of the fact they hate Perez.”
Why should they hate him? When he comes out of the house he is not going to be a shrinking violet. I cannot wait for his interview.
Originally Posted by mitacond:
“Why should they hate him? When he comes out of the house he is not going to be a shrinking violet. I cannot wait for his interview.”
“Why should they hate him? When he comes out of the house he is not going to be a shrinking violet. I cannot wait for his interview.
”
I' m really looking forward to seeing him in the studio, answering questions from the BBOTS audience
Can anyone make out what Michelle is saying here as she lies on the bed at the end of this?
Hilariously, they have named themselves the Fabulous 4. OMG.
http://bigbrother.channel5.com/day-2...nt-trust-perez
If that bunch of boring spineless bullies was all that was left I would switch off now, something my addiction has never allowed me to do. How dare they call anyone else boring?
Hilariously, they have named themselves the Fabulous 4. OMG.
http://bigbrother.channel5.com/day-2...nt-trust-perez
If that bunch of boring spineless bullies was all that was left I would switch off now, something my addiction has never allowed me to do. How dare they call anyone else boring?
The fatuous 4 more like, don't they ever get bored agreeing with each other and bitching, whinging and moaning about Perez all day, everyday?
Originally Posted by anne_666:
“Can anyone make out what Michelle is saying here as she lies on the bed at the end of this?
Hilariously, they have named themselves the Fabulous 4. OMG.
http://bigbrother.channel5.com/day-2...nt-trust-perez
If that bunch of boring spineless bullies was all that was left I would switch off now, something my addiction has never allowed me to do. How dare they call anyone else boring?”
“Can anyone make out what Michelle is saying here as she lies on the bed at the end of this?
Hilariously, they have named themselves the Fabulous 4. OMG.
http://bigbrother.channel5.com/day-2...nt-trust-perez
If that bunch of boring spineless bullies was all that was left I would switch off now, something my addiction has never allowed me to do. How dare they call anyone else boring?”
Couldn't catch it but I may have been too busy laughing they think themselves the fabulous 4 at that point
Originally Posted by molliepops:
“Couldn't catch it but I may have been too busy laughing they think themselves the fabulous 4 at that point”
“Couldn't catch it but I may have been too busy laughing they think themselves the fabulous 4 at that point
”
Gawd I know. A bunch of sad misfits, cowards and sheep. Michelle being the only moderately successful one (don't know or care really) in the bunch of talentless miserable wanabees.
Originally Posted by momoriro:
“The fatuous 4 more like, don't they ever get bored agreeing with each other and bitching, whinging and moaning about Perez all day, everyday?”
“The fatuous 4 more like, don't they ever get bored agreeing with each other and bitching, whinging and moaning about Perez all day, everyday?”
It's all too highbrow for me.
Originally Posted by humpty dumpty:
“I' m really looking forward to seeing him in the studio, answering questions from the BBOTS audience”
“I' m really looking forward to seeing him in the studio, answering questions from the BBOTS audience
”
Me too!
Originally Posted by molliepops:
“I agree Anne but this isn't first year it has happened IMO
Makes me wonder as you say what they think we want to see and what the people making the show are like ? I always imagine some quite disturbed people these days”
“I agree Anne but this isn't first year it has happened IMO
Makes me wonder as you say what they think we want to see and what the people making the show are like ? I always imagine some quite disturbed people these days
”
I agree, the bullying by some HM's and the bias of the producers has been evident for years, and that's why I always look forward to the end. It makes such uncomfortable viewing for me and I hope every year (with CBB) that there'll be a house full of people I'm not interested in, so that I'm not tempted to watch it. I don't mind confrontation, but not 24/7 and I find any form of bullying hideous to watch.
Originally Posted by anne_666:
“Can anyone make out what Michelle is saying here as she lies on the bed at the end of this?
Hilariously, they have named themselves the Fabulous 4. OMG.
http://bigbrother.channel5.com/day-2...nt-trust-perez
If that bunch of boring spineless bullies was all that was left I would switch off now, something my addiction has never allowed me to do. How dare they call anyone else boring?”
“Can anyone make out what Michelle is saying here as she lies on the bed at the end of this?
Hilariously, they have named themselves the Fabulous 4. OMG.
http://bigbrother.channel5.com/day-2...nt-trust-perez
If that bunch of boring spineless bullies was all that was left I would switch off now, something my addiction has never allowed me to do. How dare they call anyone else boring?”
No, I couldn't catch that.
But I did laugh. This is the thing though, laughing for the wrong reasons. The stupidity of the conversation.
The obsessive talking about themselves. It's like a comedy. A comedy show made and acted out for the sole purpose to laugh at this type of behaviour.
Originally Posted by humpty dumpty:
“I' m really looking forward to seeing him in the studio, answering questions from the BBOTS audience”
“I' m really looking forward to seeing him in the studio, answering questions from the BBOTS audience
”
I reckon he'll start arguing with them. And then when the audience start shouting at him he'll probaby wave his arm and say "I don't care"
He may upset a few.
Originally Posted by JVS:
“I think Katie H is considered their 'prize' booking, they've given her a lot of leeway in the show. BB may be just anti-Perez rather than pro her arse-licking gang, though. BBBOTS makes no secret of the fact they hate Perez.”
“I think Katie H is considered their 'prize' booking, they've given her a lot of leeway in the show. BB may be just anti-Perez rather than pro her arse-licking gang, though. BBBOTS makes no secret of the fact they hate Perez.”
On BBOTs they're ooing and ahhinng at 'Keith getting angry' and Graeme is wondering why Katie P isn't intergrating well, saying he wants to see more from her.
Perhaps if they had shown the clips of Katie P and Keith watching themselves being ostracised and laughed at and how cliquey, bitchy and uninterested in them the fabulous 4 are, they'd have their answers as to why Keith is annoyed and Katie hasn't integrated well!
Originally Posted by humpty dumpty:
“On BBOTs they're ooing and ahhinng at 'Keith getting angry' and Graeme is wondering why Katie P isn't intergrating well, saying he wants to see more from her.
Perhaps if they had shown the clips of Katie P and Keith watching themselves being ostracised and laughed at and how cliquey, bitchy and uninterested in them the fabulous 4 are, they'd have their answers as to why Keith is annoyed and Katie hasn't integrated well!”
“On BBOTs they're ooing and ahhinng at 'Keith getting angry' and Graeme is wondering why Katie P isn't intergrating well, saying he wants to see more from her.
Perhaps if they had shown the clips of Katie P and Keith watching themselves being ostracised and laughed at and how cliquey, bitchy and uninterested in them the fabulous 4 are, they'd have their answers as to why Keith is annoyed and Katie hasn't integrated well!”
Yes and just another example in a long list of BB's bias.
I wish I hadn't bothered with the clips on their website, it's not good for my blood pressure. So damned unfair.
Originally Posted by anne_666:
“Why are so many clips showing their behaviour missed from the main show?
Day 9 after Perez nommed Michelle, she starts the house divide and offers Callum a bribe to join her "family".
http://bigbrother.channel5.com/day-9...nds-perez-fake
Same day, pick a "side" Keith
http://bigbrother.channel5.com/day-9-pick-side-chegs
1.24 Hopkins wishing Perez and Kaite P pain.
http://bigbrother.channel5.com/day-2...r-letters-home
School yard time.
http://bigbrother.channel5.com/day-2...s-annoy-pricey
Michelle isn't happy with Hopkins nasty behaviour,but only for her own selfish reasons
http://bigbrother.channel5.com/day-2...py-katies-game
After last nights row between Callum and Perez and Callum being so hurt by Perez saying he's not his friend, this happened. Callum is well and truly outed by Perez for his backstabbing.
http://bigbrother.channel5.com/day-2...ologises-calum
There we have more of the "you've done nothing to me personally I leave rooms (bully you) because of what you've done to everyone else". So we've now had Callum, Kav and Michelle all say, in the last few days, he's done nothing personally to them, it's what he's done to "everyone else". 5 of them bully Perez, that leaves 2 as the "everyone else" KH and the sweet departed Cami.
I wonder if this makes it onto the main show tonight?
http://bigbrother.channel5.com/day-2...le-been-fooled”
“Why are so many clips showing their behaviour missed from the main show?
Day 9 after Perez nommed Michelle, she starts the house divide and offers Callum a bribe to join her "family".
http://bigbrother.channel5.com/day-9...nds-perez-fake
Same day, pick a "side" Keith
http://bigbrother.channel5.com/day-9-pick-side-chegs
1.24 Hopkins wishing Perez and Kaite P pain.
http://bigbrother.channel5.com/day-2...r-letters-home
School yard time.
http://bigbrother.channel5.com/day-2...s-annoy-pricey
Michelle isn't happy with Hopkins nasty behaviour,but only for her own selfish reasons
http://bigbrother.channel5.com/day-2...py-katies-game
After last nights row between Callum and Perez and Callum being so hurt by Perez saying he's not his friend, this happened. Callum is well and truly outed by Perez for his backstabbing.
http://bigbrother.channel5.com/day-2...ologises-calum
There we have more of the "you've done nothing to me personally I leave rooms (bully you) because of what you've done to everyone else". So we've now had Callum, Kav and Michelle all say, in the last few days, he's done nothing personally to them, it's what he's done to "everyone else". 5 of them bully Perez, that leaves 2 as the "everyone else" KH and the sweet departed Cami.
I wonder if this makes it onto the main show tonight?
http://bigbrother.channel5.com/day-2...le-been-fooled”
The producers probably realised that hostility was developing and that the entertainment couldn't be destroyed by removing the hostility halfway, or early on in the series. They will have wanted to keep it going for as long as possible.
Originally Posted by zx50:
“The producers probably realised that hostility was developing and that the entertainment couldn't be destroyed by removing the hostility halfway, or early on in the series. They will have wanted to keep it going for as long as possible.”
“The producers probably realised that hostility was developing and that the entertainment couldn't be destroyed by removing the hostility halfway, or early on in the series. They will have wanted to keep it going for as long as possible.”
Probably and it's a disgraceful representation of the truth.
Agree with this thread, also I really am not too keen on Michelle, as far as I can see if she likes you, then when you speak its 'your truth'.
If she doesn't like you then it doesn't matter what comes out of your mouth its not 'your truth' whatever that means!
If she doesn't like you then it doesn't matter what comes out of your mouth its not 'your truth' whatever that means!
Now we have a 'guest' going into the house - a guest who has very strong opinons of the housemates and has clear favourites and housemates he hates. Lets see how balanced and fair his 'questioning' is going to be.
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