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Sounds like Michelle makes a total ass out of herself on tonights show. Can't wait!
If she's meant to be a Voice why doesn't she used it to shut Hopkins and her prejudices up? |
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Well if she is representing the LGBT community, she's rubbish at it. She can't even get along and be nice to a gay housemate! Lol
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Gay man tells non gay non man gay men spokesman she doesn't represent him and she complains? Obviously Perez is homophobic and Michelle should carry on being king of the non straight world.
For the first week Michelle was my favourite - me imagining she's the sort of woman I'd like to be. But it's ![]() now. She has actually disappointed me more than Hopkins, who has been pretty much 'in character', but - and I have to half smile at this in view of Michelle's nationality - scorning Americans instead of her usual targets of Scots and others from the north. |
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What actually has she done in the house to help the "lgbt community" except for saying "I'm a voice for lgbt people"?
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Both Katie P and Nadia have attributed Perez's actions and demeanor to his gay sexuality by saying oh, he's just gay and that's how gay people are.
He can say he only represents himself and no one else but there are many out there that will still view him as representative of gays even unknowingly like Katie P and Nadia have done. |
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Perez is full of it. She doesn't have to be LGBT to represent the community. In the same way you can support PETA without being an animal etc... Sometimes, it's those who aren't part of a community who make the biggest impact.
And as for her wanting to win, they all want to. There is no shame in wanting to win or having a game plan. What I respect her for, she has said from the start she wants to win and has been honest about that. A lot of housemates have made reference to this. |
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As a Hopkins drone, Michelle ought to be appreciative of Perez's plain speaking, he was only being honest after all, or is it only Hopkins who has the right to speak the Truth, and only Hopkins' Truths that count?
He sees right through them all and gives their bullshit back to them, only without the sneering contempt that accompanies Hopkins polemics. |
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Both Katie P and Nadia have attributed Perez's actions and demeanor to his gay sexuality by saying oh, he's just gay and that's how gay people are.
He can say he only represents himself and no one else but there are many out there that will still view him as representative of gays even unknowingly like Katie P and Nadia have done. It's Michelle who wants to deny the flamboyant gay people and wants them all to be as dull as Kavana. |
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Both Katie P and Nadia have attributed Perez's actions and demeanor to his gay sexuality by saying oh, he's just gay and that's how gay people are.
He can say he only represents himself and no one else but there are many out there that will still view him as representative of gays even unknowingly like Katie P and Nadia have done. |
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You two have really made me smile today.
For the first week Michelle was my favourite - me imagining she's the sort of woman I'd like to be. But it's ![]() now. She has actually disappointed me more than Hopkins, who has been pretty much 'in character', but - and I have to half smile at this in view of Michelle's nationality - scorning Americans instead of her usual targets of Scots and others from the north. ![]() ![]() ![]() Quote:
Both Katie P and Nadia have attributed Perez's actions and demeanor to his gay sexuality by saying oh, he's just gay and that's how gay people are.
He can say he only represents himself and no one else but there are many out there that will still view him as representative of gays even unknowingly like Katie P and Nadia have done. ![]() Anyway it's a very stupid thing to say and Perez can hardly be held responsible for stupid people existing. |
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Good, at last.
If she's meant to be a Voice why doesn't she used it to shut Hopkins and her prejudices up? |
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There are flamboyant people, gay straight or whatever. Michelle used his sexuality against him, they didn't. They were also speaking after hearing all about and no doubt incessantly, Michelle's judgemental isolating tripe. Will she ever let it go? They'd all do well to listen to Perez, he's got most of them correctly worked out.
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Didn't have much of a voice when Alexander called Perez a f*ggot right in front of her either.
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I think Perez was spot on. Who made her spokesperson? Is her title of "spokesperson" official or made up by herself? He called her out on it and she didn't like it one bit. Anyway, surely he was just "telling it like it is" and "to your face and not behind your back" like the mean girls in there are always saying they do?
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Well if she is representing the LGBT community, she's rubbish at it. She can't even get along and be nice to a gay housemate! Lol
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Oh shut up Michelle you annoying miserable woman.
Did anyone notice the words "own it" in her complaint to Big Brother ? I see she is copying Hopkins again. |
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Well if she is representing the LGBT community, she's rubbish at it. She can't even get along and be nice to a gay housemate! Lol
I don't know what I think of Michelle. I agree her whole 'LGBT spokesperson' thing is patronising and also seems old-fashioned... I also agree there isn't a "community" to represent - gay people are all living different lives doing different things - the only thing they have in common is sleeping with someone of the same sex and they don't need a Z-lister to insist on waving a flag for them. "Some people are gay - get over it." as they say. |
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Oh shut up Michelle you annoying miserable woman.
Did anyone notice the words "own it" in her complaint to Big Brother ? I see she is copying Hopkins again. |
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Perez is full of it. She doesn't have to be LGBT to represent the community. In the same way you can support PETA without being an animal etc... Sometimes, it's those who aren't part of a community who make the biggest impact.
. Michelle should show her support by standing behind them, and not rushing forward to hog their microphone. |
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But PETA believes all animals are equal, Michelle thinks some are more equal than others.
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I think I would be fine with her being A voice in support of LGBT issues, if she actually used it but claiming to be something and actually being something are two very different things. I'll be honest, at this point I'd struggle to believe her even if she did start to make true her claims after her behaviour in there. She hates people playing the victim? Then perhaps she should stop victimising people!
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We can be feminist without forcing ourselves to get along with every woman. She's perfectly entitled to dislike a man who's been making them all miserable in there - him being gay is nothing to do with it. It doesn't weaken her support for the "LGBT community".
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I thought (wrongly it would appear) that Michelle was a strong, tough woman who would have seen and heard just about everything in her time. I really cannot believe that what Perez said to her upset her so much that she is now bleating about it in the diary room. Where's her backbone?
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What a ridiculous comparison. PETA is a group of people protecting animals from exploitation. The operative word being people.
. Still it was an absolutely ridiculous comparison to make.
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Where's her backbone?
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I have been confused from the beginning about Michelle. She claims to represent a 'community' (as if all LGBT join a group and get together to chat about LGBT stuff!) and that she was coming on the show to promote the rights of that community. I am not aware of her once talking about that 'community' in a way other than to tell a story about herself. She came into the house with the reputation as a strong, independent woman and has shown herself to be a weak, spineless sheep. She literally repeats everything that Hideous Hopkins says and has treated many of the HM dreadfully.
I am disappointed in her....and I am not her father. |
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I don't like Perez but he was right in what he said to Michelle last night ,and she's just pissed off that he not only had the balls to say it to her face ,but because by doing so he has now put it out there into peoples consciousness
Even that show she's on had to apologise to the trangender community ffs!
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I suppose you're correct
But she does have the biggest voice at the moment as it's on national TV ![]() Given that this is a very big platform for her to speak on. |
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