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Michelle Visage speaks to Big Brother about Perez's LGBT insult
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Joni M
04-02-2015
Originally Posted by rapscallion.:
“Sounds like Michelle makes a total ass out of herself on tonights show. Can't wait!”

Good, at last.
If she's meant to be a Voice why doesn't she used it to shut Hopkins and her prejudices up?
MargMck
04-02-2015
Originally Posted by danyell:
“Well if she is representing the LGBT community, she's rubbish at it. She can't even get along and be nice to a gay housemate! Lol”

Originally Posted by Dave_62:
“Gay man tells non gay non man gay men spokesman she doesn't represent him and she complains? Obviously Perez is homophobic and Michelle should carry on being king of the non straight world.”

You two have really made me smile today.
For the first week Michelle was my favourite - me imagining she's the sort of woman I'd like to be. But it's now.
She has actually disappointed me more than Hopkins, who has been pretty much 'in character', but - and I have to half smile at this in view of Michelle's nationality - scorning Americans instead of her usual targets of Scots and others from the north.
AaronWx
04-02-2015
What actually has she done in the house to help the "lgbt community" except for saying "I'm a voice for lgbt people"?
Kelley18644
04-02-2015
Both Katie P and Nadia have attributed Perez's actions and demeanor to his gay sexuality by saying oh, he's just gay and that's how gay people are.

He can say he only represents himself and no one else but there are many out there that will still view him as representative of gays even unknowingly like Katie P and Nadia have done.
Javed
04-02-2015
Originally Posted by JayUK69:
“Perez is full of it. She doesn't have to be LGBT to represent the community. In the same way you can support PETA without being an animal etc... Sometimes, it's those who aren't part of a community who make the biggest impact.

And as for her wanting to win, they all want to. There is no shame in wanting to win or having a game plan. What I respect her for, she has said from the start she wants to win and has been honest about that. A lot of housemates have made reference to this.”

What a ridiculous comparison. PETA is a group of people protecting animals from exploitation. The operative word being people.
Ms Ann Thrope
04-02-2015
As a Hopkins drone, Michelle ought to be appreciative of Perez's plain speaking, he was only being honest after all, or is it only Hopkins who has the right to speak the Truth, and only Hopkins' Truths that count?

He sees right through them all and gives their bullshit back to them, only without the sneering contempt that accompanies Hopkins polemics.
Javed
04-02-2015
Originally Posted by Kelley18644:
“Both Katie P and Nadia have attributed Perez's actions and demeanor to his gay sexuality by saying oh, he's just gay and that's how gay people are.

He can say he only represents himself and no one else but there are many out there that will still view him as representative of gays even unknowingly like Katie P and Nadia have done.”

Well some gay people are as flamboyant as Perez. That's just a fact.

It's Michelle who wants to deny the flamboyant gay people and wants them all to be as dull as Kavana.
anne_666
04-02-2015
Originally Posted by Kelley18644:
“Both Katie P and Nadia have attributed Perez's actions and demeanor to his gay sexuality by saying oh, he's just gay and that's how gay people are.

He can say he only represents himself and no one else but there are many out there that will still view him as representative of gays even unknowingly like Katie P and Nadia have done.”

There are flamboyant people, gay straight or whatever. Michelle used his sexuality against him, they didn't. They were also speaking after hearing all about and no doubt incessantly, Michelle's judgemental isolating tripe. Will she ever let it go? They'd all do well to listen to Perez, he's got most of them correctly worked out.
trevor tiger
04-02-2015
Originally Posted by MargMck:
“You two have really made me smile today.
For the first week Michelle was my favourite - me imagining she's the sort of woman I'd like to be. But it's now.
She has actually disappointed me more than Hopkins, who has been pretty much 'in character', but - and I have to half smile at this in view of Michelle's nationality - scorning Americans instead of her usual targets of Scots and others from the north.”

That's not allowed unless she's your Dad apparently. She's not is she

Originally Posted by Kelley18644:
“Both Katie P and Nadia have attributed Perez's actions and demeanor to his gay sexuality by saying oh, he's just gay and that's how gay people are.

He can say he only represents himself and no one else but there are many out there that will still view him as representative of gays even unknowingly like Katie P and Nadia have done.”

I have NEVER heard Nadia or Katie P say that

Anyway it's a very stupid thing to say and Perez can hardly be held responsible for stupid people existing.
rapscallion.
04-02-2015
Originally Posted by Joni M:
“Good, at last.
If she's meant to be a Voice why doesn't she used it to shut Hopkins and her prejudices up?”

Didn't have much of a voice when Alexander called Perez a f*ggot right in front of her either.
Joni M
04-02-2015
Originally Posted by anne_666:
“There are flamboyant people, gay straight or whatever. Michelle used his sexuality against him, they didn't. They were also speaking after hearing all about and no doubt incessantly, Michelle's judgemental isolating tripe. Will she ever let it go? They'd all do well to listen to Perez, he's got most of them correctly worked out.”

That's what I've been the most disappointed about.
Originally Posted by rapscallion.:
“Didn't have much of a voice when Alexander called Perez a f*ggot right in front of her either.”

Ah, in fairness she did, she jumped up and said 'No' to Alex.
missfrizzy
04-02-2015
Originally Posted by PERILLA:
“I think Perez was spot on. Who made her spokesperson? Is her title of "spokesperson" official or made up by herself? He called her out on it and she didn't like it one bit. Anyway, surely he was just "telling it like it is" and "to your face and not behind your back" like the mean girls in there are always saying they do?”

Originally Posted by danyell:
“Well if she is representing the LGBT community, she's rubbish at it. She can't even get along and be nice to a gay housemate! Lol”

Correct. She is such a hypocrite. Jumping on the LGBT bandwagon just to be famous for something. She can't even do that properly.
SegaGamer
04-02-2015
Oh shut up Michelle you annoying miserable woman.

Did anyone notice the words "own it" in her complaint to Big Brother ? I see she is copying Hopkins again.
hihopes
04-02-2015
Originally Posted by danyell:
“Well if she is representing the LGBT community, she's rubbish at it. She can't even get along and be nice to a gay housemate! Lol”

We can be feminist without forcing ourselves to get along with every woman. She's perfectly entitled to dislike a man who's been making them all miserable in there - him being gay is nothing to do with it. It doesn't weaken her support for the "LGBT community".

I don't know what I think of Michelle. I agree her whole 'LGBT spokesperson' thing is patronising and also seems old-fashioned... I also agree there isn't a "community" to represent - gay people are all living different lives doing different things - the only thing they have in common is sleeping with someone of the same sex and they don't need a Z-lister to insist on waving a flag for them. "Some people are gay - get over it." as they say.
Joni M
04-02-2015
Originally Posted by SegaGamer:
“Oh shut up Michelle you annoying miserable woman.

Did anyone notice the words "own it" in her complaint to Big Brother ? I see she is copying Hopkins again.”

She also said Perez wasn't her father, not long after Hopkins had told Keith she didn't care if he was disappointed in her as he wasn't her father.
pope_tart
04-02-2015
Originally Posted by JayUK69:
“Perez is full of it. She doesn't have to be LGBT to represent the community. In the same way you can support PETA without being an animal etc... Sometimes, it's those who aren't part of a community who make the biggest impact.
.”

People in PETA support animal causes and speak for them because animals don't have a voice themselves...totally different to the gay community, who, in my experience have a great big belting voice and can speak very eloquently for themselves.

Michelle should show her support by standing behind them, and not rushing forward to hog their microphone.
xynaria
04-02-2015
Originally Posted by Joni M:
“But PETA believes all animals are equal, Michelle thinks some are more equal than others.
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Indeed if LGBT is seen as equal which in theory they want and should be then she's totally irrelevant innit......................
bohoboy
04-02-2015
I think I would be fine with her being A voice in support of LGBT issues, if she actually used it but claiming to be something and actually being something are two very different things. I'll be honest, at this point I'd struggle to believe her even if she did start to make true her claims after her behaviour in there. She hates people playing the victim? Then perhaps she should stop victimising people!
xynaria
04-02-2015
Originally Posted by hihopes:
“We can be feminist without forcing ourselves to get along with every woman. She's perfectly entitled to dislike a man who's been making them all miserable in there - him being gay is nothing to do with it. It doesn't weaken her support for the "LGBT community".”

Quite Perez is being a ******** because it's congenital to him not because he's gay so how can he be an embarrassment to and a weakening of LGBT?
PERILLA
04-02-2015
I thought (wrongly it would appear) that Michelle was a strong, tough woman who would have seen and heard just about everything in her time. I really cannot believe that what Perez said to her upset her so much that she is now bleating about it in the diary room. Where's her backbone?
CrashDavis
04-02-2015
Originally Posted by Javed:
“What a ridiculous comparison. PETA is a group of people protecting animals from exploitation. The operative word being people.”

Jay was wrong from the start there because people are animals too . Still it was an absolutely ridiculous comparison to make.
xynaria
04-02-2015
Originally Posted by PERILLA:
“ Where's her backbone?”

Just guessing mind but possibly in a little puddle below the Katieraptors bottom...........
Karen_Bremner
04-02-2015
I have been confused from the beginning about Michelle. She claims to represent a 'community' (as if all LGBT join a group and get together to chat about LGBT stuff!) and that she was coming on the show to promote the rights of that community. I am not aware of her once talking about that 'community' in a way other than to tell a story about herself. She came into the house with the reputation as a strong, independent woman and has shown herself to be a weak, spineless sheep. She literally repeats everything that Hideous Hopkins says and has treated many of the HM dreadfully.

I am disappointed in her....and I am not her father.
momoriro
04-02-2015
Originally Posted by cah:
“I don't like Perez but he was right in what he said to Michelle last night ,and she's just pissed off that he not only had the balls to say it to her face ,but because by doing so he has now put it out there into peoples consciousness”

He's not a good person is she ripping the pish right out of it and that two faced, back stabbing toxic bitch from hell Hatie is I suppose on planet Michelle.
Even that show she's on had to apologise to the trangender community ffs!
Alrightmate
04-02-2015
Originally Posted by SpyInsider:
“I suppose you're correct But she does have the biggest voice at the moment as it's on national TV ”

What has this voice said?
Given that this is a very big platform for her to speak on.
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