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Old 04-02-2015, 19:13
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I think Katie H has deliberately pushed certain housemates’ button to get the best out of them and to get the public behind them. I think her arguments with Alicia, Nadia and Keith (excluding Perez) are all by her design while keeping up her hard exterior persona intact. I think she’s banking on that she doesn’t win; a win would damage her credibility. Katie H learned from the time that she was on the Apprentice what her USP was and has been very successful at it. Katie H has created a niche for herself in a lucrative market and she will want to keep that intact.

I think Katie H secretly wants Keith to win, but doesn’t just it to be handed over on a plate, she wants him to earn it. What I’ve seen her doing is pushing Keith to go for it, and knock her out of the running ensuring that Keith is seen as an all round good guy (which she knows he is) but also as a fighter when pushed to his limited. Keith over the first two weeks had started to fade in to the background but within the last week Keith has been tested, stoked, poked and prodded by Katie H into potentially being this years’ winner.

Keith or Katie H FTW
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Old 04-02-2015, 19:18
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I dont think being rude and making someone angry brings out the best in anyone.
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Old 04-02-2015, 19:22
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I dont think being rude and making someone angry brings out the best in anyone.
Yes but it got him noticed which put him in contention for winning
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Old 04-02-2015, 19:22
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Totally disagree, she can't bear losing at anything. I could see her walking more than anything, because that's not guaranteed, but she's desperate for the money. Where she will go from here is a complete mystery to me.
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Old 04-02-2015, 19:22
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Being disliked is part of her job, if people start liking her she looses the panto villain part. If she wants to be liked, she is intelligent and controlled enough to have kept to the fun side. Strange woman.
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Old 04-02-2015, 19:24
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Uh oh, is this the moment where her fans start getting cold feet about her chances? Is this where they start posting fall back arguments in the event of her cold hard loss?
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Old 04-02-2015, 19:25
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I think the OP could not be more wrong. She is a nasty, spiteful and self centred woman.

She is nasty to the other housemates because it makes her feel superior and better about herself. She wants to bring the worst out in them to make them look bad.

She is highly competitive and is desperate to win (whilst being scornful about others wanting to win).

End of.
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Old 04-02-2015, 19:25
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Yes but it got him noticed which put him in contention for winning
Keith didnt need her to get him noticed, none of them did. Maybe if it had been more of a 'fun' house everyone could have been seen in a more positive light.
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Old 04-02-2015, 19:26
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She wants to win....of that I have no doubt. She's only provoked Keith because he's a nice guy and she wants to destroy that image by getting him into an arguement in the hope she can take some votes off him. She sees him as a threat to the title, thats why she's provoking him.
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Old 04-02-2015, 19:27
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Yes but it got him noticed which put him in contention for winning
No she was trying to demean him in the public eye as she does with all the non gang who won't do as she tells them. She was also the one who introduced talking about the next stage of CBB as quickly as possible because she doesn't give a fig about Cami or anyone else. Deflecting the attention to Keith was a major part of that nasty display.
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Old 04-02-2015, 19:28
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Katie is a fantastic lady and I really hope she wins. If she doesn't win then it makes no difference to my life! People need to chill and remember it's a tv programme there for entertainment!
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Old 04-02-2015, 19:28
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Are you kidding me? She is desperate to win it. I think she wants it more than any other house mate in there.
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Old 04-02-2015, 19:28
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I think the OP could not be more wrong. She is a nasty, spiteful and self centred woman.

She is nasty to the other housemates because it makes her feel superior and better about herself. She wants to bring the worst out in them to make them look bad.

She is highly competitive and is desperate to win (whilst being scornful about others wanting to win).

End of.
Didnt i see somewhere today that she'd 'accused' Keith of wanting to win? She said the same about Michelle in the diary room but doesnt say it to her face. She wants to win more than anyone and suggest other people 'own it' the minute they open their mouth.
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Old 04-02-2015, 19:31
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I think the OP could not be more wrong. She is a nasty, spiteful and self centred woman.

She is nasty to the other housemates because it makes her feel superior and better about herself. She wants to bring the worst out in them to make them look bad.

She is highly competitive and is desperate to win (whilst being scornful about others wanting to win).

End of.
Absolutely this.

She's projecting her desperation to win onto others. She's trying to deflect, it's part of the way she operates.
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Old 04-02-2015, 19:32
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Am I reading you right. You think her behaviour in the house has been altruistic towards Keith...that she thinks he's so wonderful that she's doing all she can to make sure he wins.

Off for a little lie down >>>>>>>>>>>>
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Old 04-02-2015, 19:34
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yeah right *cough Bull S*** cough*
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Old 04-02-2015, 19:34
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Am I reading you right. You think her behaviour in the house has been altruistic towards Keith...that she thinks he's so wonderful that she's doing all she can to make sure he wins.

Off for a little lie down >>>>>>>>>>>>
i know, you couldnt make it up. Its all been said for his own good and out of the kindess of her heart.
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Old 04-02-2015, 19:36
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Anyone familiarwith her MO pre-CBB will know that that her raison d'être is to be seen as the 'outsider', bravely voicing unpleasant truths. Without that, she has no living. So winning is really not important to her.
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Old 04-02-2015, 19:38
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I think Katie H has deliberately pushed certain housemates’ button to get the best out of them and to get the public behind them. I think her arguments with Alicia, Nadia and Keith (excluding Perez) are all by her design while keeping up her hard exterior persona intact. I think she’s banking on that she doesn’t win; a win would damage her credibility. Katie H learned from the time that she was on the Apprentice what her USP was and has been very successful at it. Katie H has created a niche for herself in a lucrative market and she will want to keep that intact.

I think Katie H secretly wants Keith to win, but doesn’t just it to be handed over on a plate, she wants him to earn it. What I’ve seen her doing is pushing Keith to go for it, and knock her out of the running ensuring that Keith is seen as an all round good guy (which she knows he is) but also as a fighter when pushed to his limited. Keith over the first two weeks had started to fade in to the background but within the last week Keith has been tested, stoked, poked and prodded by Katie H into potentially being this years’ winner.

Keith or Katie H FTW
Completely disagree.
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Old 04-02-2015, 19:39
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I think she is worn out and wants to get back to her own home environment where she can rule with a rod of iron and no fear of insubordination.
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Old 04-02-2015, 19:39
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I think Katie H has deliberately pushed certain housemates’ button to get the best out of them and to get the public behind them. I think her arguments with Alicia, Nadia and Keith (excluding Perez) are all by her design while keeping up her hard exterior persona intact. I think she’s banking on that she doesn’t win; a win would damage her credibility. Katie H learned from the time that she was on the Apprentice what her USP was and has been very successful at it. Katie H has created a niche for herself in a lucrative market and she will want to keep that intact.

I think Katie H secretly wants Keith to win, but doesn’t just it to be handed over on a plate, she wants him to earn it. What I’ve seen her doing is pushing Keith to go for it, and knock her out of the running ensuring that Keith is seen as an all round good guy (which she knows he is) but also as a fighter when pushed to his limited. Keith over the first two weeks had started to fade in to the background but within the last week Keith has been tested, stoked, poked and prodded by Katie H into potentially being this years’ winner.

Keith or Katie H FTW

Interesting theory . I don't think she is bothered about winning but I'm not sure about her being so altruistic. Tho I think she is more complex than the impression she creates.
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Old 04-02-2015, 19:41
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Am I reading you right. You think her behaviour in the house has been altruistic towards Keith...that she thinks he's so wonderful that she's doing all she can to make sure he wins.

Off for a little lie down >>>>>>>>>>>>
I'm stunned, all I could muster in response was that I disagreed. Words have literally failed me
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Old 04-02-2015, 19:41
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I think she is worn out and wants to get back to her own home environment where she can rule with a rod of iron and no fear of insubordination.
I think it's got to be exhausting being her and the way she's chosen to earn her living. I'm sure she's not remotely as obnoxious as she'd like people to think she is when she's 'off duty'.
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Old 04-02-2015, 19:42
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I think the OP could not be more wrong. She is a nasty, spiteful and self centred woman.

She is nasty to the other housemates because it makes her feel superior and better about herself. She wants to bring the worst out in them to make them look bad.

She is highly competitive and is desperate to win (whilst being scornful about others wanting to win).

End of.
Nope, I think you're completely wrong and writing "end of" at the end of your point makes you seem silly.

I think, she went in there, said outrageous things, expecting to be hated, and was quite happy for that to happen. She realises that if she wins, her brand will be tarnished as she will be quite popular - she makes money of being hated. I dont think she wants to win, but I think she would love final 3!
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Old 04-02-2015, 19:42
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Katie is a fantastic lady and I really hope she wins. If she doesn't win then it makes no difference to my life! People need to chill and remember it's a tv programme there for entertainment!
Firstly she's not at all a fantasatic lady and at a risk of a ban, I won't tell you what I think you're really doing.

Secondly, a lot of us CBB /BB viweres have a moral compass and a level of decency that abhorrs everything that grotesque, repugnant and repulsive woman stands for.

Entertainment she most certainly is not.
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