Speculation that Vodafone are going to be using BT FTTC and the old C&W fibre for their fibre broadband, with TV delivered over the internet.

assume this mean no need for an aerial or sat dish.

could be quite interesting depending on the content they will have, will look at this service if i get some sort of discount for being a mobile customer.

http://www.digitaltveurope.net/31641...band-tv-plans/

*re-enter

I assume it will be similar to Dish's offering in America called SlingTV or SkyGo that Sky offers.

sounds like a disaster in the making...

How so?

Surprising that they would be using the Cable and Wireless network for Home broadband does that mean they are considering FTTP? Else it seems odd to mention it as you might as well just use BT FTTC and do what Sky and Talk do.

And that sums up the problem with quad play. In the countries where it has caught on like France or perhaps Spain, it has only done so because of the big discounts offered to punters to go quad play. In countries where it hasn't been associated with big discounts (like Virgin in the UK) it hasn't been a success.

Now deep discounts shaking up the market might have been a workable quad play strategy for BT with its MVNO plans given it had no existing mobile business and so could afford to take a few risks. Of course many of the networks then think they might have to choose the least worst option which is to compete in the market themselves and so we get the defensive moves from the likes of Vodafone.

But if BT buys EE suddenly everything changes. They become one of the incumbent players who don't want to see margins erode in their mobile business and this I think cuts the legs off quad play to a large extent in the UK. Sure there will be quad play offerings but they won't be anything like as exciting as they would have been for consumers if BT hadn't decided to buy EE.

That's the one. Looks like some journalists have short memories. Yet more evidence that Vodafone is lacking imagination and like O2 has spent the last 10 years resting on their laurels.

C&W own DSLAMS in a LOT of BT exchanges. Not as many as Sky or TalkTalk, but quite a few. They used to market as "Bulldog" LLU for a long time offering services faster than BT offered. So in theory Vodafone now own those DSLAMs and the backhaul fibre network from the exchanges - just need to increase that footprint.

Openreach FTTC is open to other backhaul providers through GEA (Generic Ethernet Access) so Vodafone can offer FTTC with their own backhaul at the exchange - this is how Sky and TalkTalk use it.

Ah that makes a lot of sense then thanks for clearing it up have never heard of Bulldog before.

Funny I was just reading something about this yesterday.

Vodafone's TV service will be an over the top style similar to BT YouView or TalkTalk offering.

They will be offering multiple services, ranging from Netflix to NowTV. "Apparently" the cloud based storage will be fairly dynamic in that as you record it is automatically uploaded to the cloud as the recording takes place.

There are some other things they are trying, interestingly however if you wanted to take the TV package you wouldn't need to be a broadband customer of theirs. The service will be available to the consumer no matter who their ISP is.

I think Vodafone is about to splash in a big way, we may finally see the cost of bills come down in relation to FTTC and line rental. Eve & Wknd call plans will come as possibly come as standard, unlike the weekend only options that are currently in place with the big boys now.

They are working on FTTP plans for some areas although that is very much on the QT if you will, I don't believe it will be a massive rollout, more an experiment to see how they can best use their infrastructure.

I think the only away Vodafone is going to be able to compete and differentiate themselves, on price and features. They are going to be very aggressive in this area, the big 4 (ISPs) will be watching to see which way the wind blows.

The one thing Vodafone has in its favour if we may call it that, is their mobile tariffs are usually seen as expensive compared to say Three or O2, but with that also comes a better ARPU to some extent. So the cross selling will be massive, but the subsidy quite restrained.

I am toying with the idea of moving, the only thing that keeps me with BT is the deal I have for my broadband, I hate the fact line rental is £16.99 a month. At least when Vodafone does launch it will have a compelling alternative.

Ive never found any of Vodafone's offers as compelling I doubt their re-entry into this market to be much different to the last time yawn zzzz

Why do you bother posting on vodafone related threads. You never add anything to the discussion

Firstly as has already been pointed out Vodafone have been in this market before. Vodafone at Home got sold to PlusNet with customers migrating over in 2012.


http://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/4...uary-2012.html

They already have Sky on certain plans.

http://www.vodafone.co.uk/shop/pay-m...rts-mobile-tv/

Does this sound familiar at all?

Hmmm to be a tit?


Please explain to me the relevance of an article that is over 3 years old, and baring no influence to what is happening now?

I could whip out an article showing BT Wireless being spun off into mmO2 and later Telefonica. BT left the mobile industry and as already mentioned in another thread have agreed terms and now wait for the closure of the EE deal.

I would understand if what you said offered anything substantive to the discussion. However it isn't, just plain hyperbole.

Why would Vodafone go to the lengths it has already done (to sell off a share in an American business), annouce it is going back into the fixed line/broadband market? As it stands there are few large companies that have both the capital and determination to make deals of this kind. Vodafone and BT are going to upset the market, not in some much of falling prices, more in the vain of value added features.