We do need the live feed back so the public can trust BB again this is why I do not vote.
Was Perez telling the truth yes to a certain extent I think so, put into the mix any info that he may have gained from KP. When she entered the house she said to the HM this was the most watched BB or words to that effect.

Love or hate Perez it was the Perez show until the end, even in his interview he played the Perez show. To me some seemed as though he had gone over it in his mind as he kept making the point on certain issue. The main one being the sleeping tablets that he repeated several times to get the point across.

Perez may have done the public a favour as I feel BB have to win back the viewers and the only way they can do that is to go back to basics and give us the live feed.

, as people went into the house, and were saying most talked about in BB history etc..I expect it slipped out, or was picked up on - plus Perez.iggest tell tale/stirrer ever- he seems to thrive on telling other people what happened or was said behind theier backs..and really exaggerating it -

If Perez had to see a doctor in there then shame on them for keeping him in , when I heard the very first time Perez was booed by the crowds I thought that maybe it was a setup by BB. I really did it shattered his confidence terrible and after that he wanted out.. he had never seen BB he said and didnt know what he was supposed to do .. so I think there too hes been told or asked to be completely off the wall and crazy and that the British public would love him.... whos to say about the votes last night to get him out... that could be fiddled too shame on the lot of you at BB.. and I dont think we saw the whole thing with Perez and Alexander at all... there was much more to that and probably another deal struck..

But they have no need to do that, I'm afraid. They can get improved big enough ratings by putting out scripted panto tosh. Look at many of the highlights shows... "8.55am The HMs are awake"- ADS - programme restarts fastforward to.... "9.35pm Perez and Calum are arguing in the kitchen".
All very cheap to make.

well said... it has always been manipulated. it became more obvious to more people the shorter the coverage.. but the fact they were "confused" by the extra tv time is not a problem with BB but with those viewers not comprehending what it is they are watching.

also, as the risk of the cost goes up, the makers need to get more of a guaranteed hit for their investment... this is tv...

then again, most people cant see, that shows like TOP GEAR are completely planned and scripted... many viewers just cant see, its an expensive show that "has to deliver" entertainment every single show... and random events do not happen to the guarantee that the shows viewers expect to happen...

the show is manipulated.. the people are paid to play the character they have said they will be...

occasionally peope do not live up to casting expectations.. like Patsy this CBB series and Sophie in BB14 but that is why BB adds the tasks and the games, to keep the slush puppy mixing...

voting... (also applies to x-factor which runs on very planned rails too) should be thought of as "interactive playing along with the show" not actually voting like an election... after all these years when will that sink in?

some people are very scary in their understanding of what the show they have been watching for years is actually about and how it is actually made...

Have they then immediately made sure that the person who wanted to walk was whisked away into a secret room and not around for the next round of nominations? I think not. All too convenient. I believe what Perez said.

Totally agree with you. Anyone would think it was a scientific social experiment. I think they only series that could be considered close to a social experiment was the first series. But, even then, the whole Craig and Nick 'showdown' was overplayed to gain Craig favour with the public. No-one knew how popular it would become or that any winner or ex-housemates would go on to a certain level or success or celebrity. The whole fame hungry wannabe's started with series 2.

I don't mind at all if they manipulate the show. I watch it solely for entertainment purposes. I see each housemate as a character, some I really like, some I really dislike. My favourites rarely win, but then again, plots in films or TV shows don't always go the way I want them to. Big Brother is no different, it's all scripted to a certain degree.

Don't get me wrong I agree, I have watched since BB started, this is why I said back to basics live feed and let the show write itself. With Ipads and phones more people would pay to watch the live feed. Get rid of the models and half celebs. Just ordinary people and make it hard no soft touch nanny state. grow your own veg , make the tasks hard.

Last nights show 15 mins of live feed then the vote , bots gets more time than the live show.

Alex had work commitments lined up in the UK which he couldn't have fulfilled if he'd stayed. He expected to be voted out early.

I'm done with it now. Take out repeats from the night before and still to comes, the ads and what is left now, out of 24 hours? The eviction shows are now only 1 hour. It's drifted further and further away from a unique social experiment to this farce. A nasty mess with their chosen storyline manipulated whichever way they choose. It's a joke and as far from reality as it can get.

not really, the show is already heavily manipulated and this part was because of an exceptional position in which two people have been carrying the show and neither was very much Without the other.

I think theywill be very wary of introducing a 'Perez' type character again - or a Katie Hopkins for that matter....

Way too difficult to manage!

Good point. BB had to have seen what was going on, but it made good TV, got them in the press and the drama was really to be found in the housemates confronting Nick about it. It made Big Brother, of course BB loved how it panned out.

I've been saying it isn't the show it was for years, it hasn't stopped me watching and I see it as a game show now I am unsure why anyone is saying they are shocked and won't now watch because it was clear since Nikki Graham went back in they will do whatever they want to keep ratings up. That was the year I stopped voting, so I can understand people not voting but not watching ?

Makes you wonder about this show thats back in time, out in the wilderness... Do they get McDonalds delivered.

bib - but points have been clearly made to show that it was always controlled and manipulated Let's face it, even in simplest terms, doing a food task is a form of control and manipulation - people in the real world don't do a shopping task in order to get food (other than going to work to earn the money, obviously ).

BB could see Nick Bateman was cheating, they didn't do anything about it as they could see it was much better for the show, viewing figures, etc. (they were receiving some press, it's what got me into watching BB after all), and waited until the confrontation by his other housemates before they acted.

There is no doubt there's always been manipulation for dramatic purposes, they are making a TV show, they want the ratings, the advertising revenue, the voting money. It's a business, it was never down to the 'social experiment' - the only thing they couldn't control was what the housemates said to each other, but even that was influenced by tasks and events created by BB, always has been and always will be.

If I could be bothered, I'd write down the names of all the users on here who say they'll never watch it again and then tick their names off the list when they start commenting on the next series

Can't beat a bit of faux-outrage.

Surely 'hardcore BB fans' will have known this for years--just nice to have some of it confirmed, and by the Producers' Wet Dream, Perez, who's cashed their cheque and is now sticking it up 'em like he's done to everyone else! LOL.

I found it very weird when he walked out the back door and then was suddenly in a secret room and we were shown footage of him being told it was a secret task AFTER the event. Hmm it felt all wrong to me - not genuine.

I believe him walking out the emergency door was REAL and the producers panicked and decided to put him in the secret room at that point because they didn't want to lose him.

Total farce in that respect

Yes, please--people interacting as themselves--esp in the CBB format--was the Interesting Bit. Even from this travesty CBB, I was amazed Kav turned out to be witty, funny, and have a really sensible brain, and self-awareness to admit Vodka turns him into A Devil! Who KNEW?? And the tasks are ridiculously easy now. Boo!

BB has been manipulated from it's very beginning, it's just that up until around 2006 it never really stood out to a large majority of people.

Yes, what's happening today is that a few more are catching on, while others are sticking their fingers in their ears harder than ever. It must hurt.

I agree with this! I'm confused how people are getting so angry. It has presumably been this way for countless years - they're not just going to open the door for a HM to leave without doing what they can to get them to stay. Every HM's who's threatened to walk will have had long talks with the producers....

And yes, I'm sure they did come to an agreement with Alex whereby he leave so they can keep Perez. I thought that was pretty obvious too

It's a television show. For entertainment. The producer's are going to work to keep the most entertaining HM's in and if that means begging with them to stay, so what? What does that change exactly?

Indeed you can put my name down the year Nikki left and went back and the year Aaron was treated so badly. I see names here this year who said never again after Helen's win too !

I honestly haven't seen a CBB or BB since the year Denise Welch won. I was drawn to watch this series only because of Perez, now he's out of the house I will be tuning out. If CBB can cast a character as fascinating and off the wall as him in the future then I would watch, but I doubt we will ever see his like again.

I was not sure wether to believe him or not but he did say he could name the producer, also made me think was that why he kept singing its the Perez show.