If you watch it as trash TV for a laugh and dont waste your money voting its ok. Why people get outraged I dont know. Helen was set up for the win last summer aside from the pass to the final that whole Helen V Asheligh court with Judi James set it up as an eithier or choice. I will give the civilian BB a miss this year as it goes on too long and I really think I wasted alot of the summer watching what really is a load of nonsense but l will still watch the celeb version. I know its fake and manipulated but if you take it with a pinch of salt and waste your money voting its ok IMO.

There's manipulation, then there's Channel 5 manipulation, to me it's on a very different scale than those you speak of on Channel 4 and mostly 4 could be held to account, there was a live feed 24/7. I remember in 2011 Ford and co going on about cost etc. It was never about cost, it was about manipulation they could never do with a live feed 24/7. If the Shilpa incident took place on 5, I wonder how watered down it would've been, Channel 5 could've chosen not to show it at all. Fight night, all of them infamous incidents on live feed that 4 couldn't hide from, 5 can. That is the difference for me.

Because Eamonn Holmes mentioned it during yesterdays task when he went into the house.

It's the Perez Show & the most talked about BB series EVER .... All Due to Perez.

Christan Howes "Social Media Expert Statistician" also went into the house & confirmed what Eamonn told the HMs.

Apparently Ch5 will be releasing a statement later today .....

@bigblaggeruk
There will be a statement from @channel5_tv on Perez's comments about the producers coming later today #cbb

Cripes! When were stage crew spotted in the house with cue cards?

Hahaha
I love BB sad if it ended but I'm glad all this has happened
They won't cancel it tho we all need to move on and see it as it is
The Perez show

Try this one...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...am-Faiers.html

I'm still chucking at after he was saying this, the heckles from the "audience", when I am pretty sure the boos were coming from the crew.

And then notice after the break, when Perez joined the panel again, the panel were quite subdued and Luisa then said (after saying she disliked him and was happy he was out), that Perez shouldn't be out of the house that was the quickest change of heart. So maybe, the panel was scared that he would reveal more things?

The story editing side of thing is just logical. 24 hours a day filming, team of people watching it all - present situations to the team -

"A argued with B at this time." -
"B told C about the argument at this time." -
"A and B and C all had a massive fight over it at this time."

That's todays story - for it to work we need to show all three points in order, that takes up 40 minutes of our 60 minute show - we'll need to lose other things that happened.

All makes sense to me. Less about manipulation, more about simply making a television show that's not just a series of unconnected random instances with no flow.

That's the type of 'manipulation' I expect... Hell, that's the type of 'manipulation' I want!

What I don't like is the implication of what apparently transpired outside of the diary with Perez and the producer. The way Perez tells it is that he was informed the show was the highest rated ever, that the viewers were all tuning in to see him and that it was 'The Perez show' (a catchphrase Perez seems to suggest he adopted from that conversation).

This, alongside the fact Perez then went on to skip an entire nominations process (if we are to assume the 'taken out the diary room to see the producer' instance occurred when we think it did) does not sit well with me at all. In particular I am uncomfortable with the fact that Perez was convinced into staying by some kind of implication that he was popular and was effectively the star of the show. We know that's not true, we know the producers knew that wasn't true - he's been incredibly unpopular with the viewing public, he's been described in the press as 'the most hated housemate ever' - they were obviously well aware he was going to go the second he was nominated against anyone who wasn't of the non-entity Kav variety.

It feels like they lied to him - and it feels like they treated the viewers badly - knowing we didn't like him, knowing we wanted him out and were prepared to pay for it - and choosing to drag it out as long as possible because our hatred was generating a lot of social media chatter that in turn equals free advertising.

Perhaps it was naïve of me to not believe they would do something like this. No, actually forget that, there's no 'perhaps' about it. It WAS naïve of me.

It's all a bit disappointing.

to be honest we have known for years since live feed was axed that the show has been fixed even more so since it's move to C5 , The has become a parody of itself you only have to look at the presenters to know that , Davina was right in going when she did

Why is everyone surprised what Perez said last nite, we all said that was the reason why they gave Perez the secret room task to keep him in the house.

This is no longer Big Brother, just another scripted reality show ..... The Real Big Brother died years ago.

its going to be more BS.
they know once Friday arrives its all forgotten again.

I believe they were scared he would reveal more. Same when Rylan nearly had a heart attack when Perez first spoke the truth about wanting to leave. All this talk about the truth of the secret room will be spinned in such a way for us to believe that's the only issue. Nip the whole truth in the bud. Whole truth being any out of scripting, editing, manipulating/conspiring things with the knowledge of any particular HM.

Although from a U.S. gossip site and I don't necessarily believe the whole blind as such, it's still food for thought.

http://www.foxella.com/when-the-came...et-along-fine/

I will repeat again what I said last night as this is a simple answer At no point has Channel 5 or Endemol (can't really blame Viacom yet) come out and said the format of this show has now changed. It has been presented as the same format as Big Brother 2000 is to Big Brother 2015. Iregardless of what we think or "people shouldn't be surprised", people who have been paying to vote have been voting on a non-scripted, real reality show and that's where it all slips up. If you don't describe a product anywhere else in life properly legally you're entitled to a refund. It's the same logic here. No one from the companies has said "this is now a TOWIE scripted show, now vote".

Maybe that is why Katie H. chose him as the most boring, so he'd be up for eviction.

I think thats what the main problem is. I mean all TV is fake in some way or another, even the news, thats just the way TV works but then charging people to vote on a show like this where its basically TOWIE style fake reality, is simply wrong.

Channel 4 looked a golden age.

Everyone thought it was real, but just scripted.

I noticed that too. That was very strange.



^^^^
These.

Tape it on C5+24 tonight I will

They should be worried. An excellent and furthermore, revealing interview from Perez today too. Sorry it's on Loose Women! but it's scary how much the extreme editing can alter your perception of someone. Not excusing Perez, but there were genuine reasons behind the coughing incident for example and much of his mad and bad behaviour too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSb1V4uw6p4

Anyone not thinking that is common practice is an idiot. That's a producer's job.

Of course it's happened before. The only difference this time is that someone has admitted that it happened.

I couldn't stand Perez, but I honestly don't know what the fuss is all about.

Indeed. It's sad, but no point in pretending otherwise.

It sounded truthful to me, he even knew who had spoken to him about leaving, he had the sense not to name and shame. don't think there was any doubt about what he was saying though.

That's the whole point of a live feed. When something kicks off viewers know it's real as they've seen the build up in real time. Problem is that they may have to watch a lot of hours of boring interaction to get to that point. And some series nothing much might happen at all ...