Amazed at the "Poor Perez" posts!

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Mastes1

05-02-2015

Originally Posted by Dr Z:
“I don't agree. The reason I say KH is the most normal, is because normal people have, and express opinions, some nice, some nasty, some out-of-order, some crazy.

On TV, or on even the slightest element of a public stage, people behave differently - no one dares to express an opinion without carefully censoring themselves as offending anyone is seen as the ultimate Sin. If you wan't to pretend this is 'reality' you are deluding yourself. It is nothing but a charade.

KH, by design or otherwise, simply doesn't conform to this charade. She expresses her opinions without prejudice - just like a normal person does when they talk to another normal person.”

Listen i agree that its refreshing to see someone who doesn't give a shit about 'PC' and says what they want, that imo is a GOOD thing for this day and age BUT that doesn't mean she should come out with some of the stuff she does, there is still 'right and wrong' that she doesn't seem to understand or care about.

She has said some nasty stuff, she has started a lot of the arguments. Most of the ridiculous antics by Perez was in retaliation to something she started. I mean she really was obsessed with Perez up unitl the last 3 or 4 days, i mean almost stalking him.
I feel if Perez hadn't acted so over the top and self obsessed, Katie H would almost certainly be the villain of this series, not Perez.

Dr Z

05-02-2015

But thats the thing about REAL people, you get some negatives along with the good stuff, there is no law requiring us all to agree with each others opinions despite the narrative that teaches us otherwise.

Of course you could fabricate a persona that is all good with no faults (like most people try to present) but its all very fake.

Give me a warts and all real person over a fabricated persona any day.

liam_williams

05-02-2015

people are just biased against perez eg. if calum was dancing half naked in front of the window, the house would have egged him on. not that he would because the kid is dull

Concretepigsy

05-02-2015

Originally Posted by bealze:
“Perez Hilton has always been a spectacularly vile little man. He went into the house to show people he had changed. He really only confirmed that leopard will never change his spot.”

Excellent post, and he will continue to be just as vile, let's not forget the three, count them three warnings he got for his vile behaviour

I think a lot of the housemates controlled themselves very well. I would not have gauche same restraint if he spoke or acted towards me like he did with others

I suggest a quick look at his Wikipedia page too would give you an idea how "nice" he is

Flowes

05-02-2015

Originally Posted by Dr Z:
“Yes, I understand why mischievous people might want him to win in the interest of winding people up.

But now he's gone, the sheer number of "What did he do wrong?" posts is alarming, and I think its very indicative of a society that doesn't want to take responsibility for their actions.

My advice? Watch the series from the start, and when the part in your brain clicks that his behaviour was not acceptable, rewind and watch it again, eventually your brain will click a second time and you'll realise that when you behave in this way there WILL be consequences, people are entitled to, and WILL hold it against you!

If you are very lucky, people may give you another chance in the future, but you have to accept that this will be on their terms, you can't expect easing up being a ****tard to be like flicking a switch.

I am actually pleased to see an example of someone lying in the bed they've made themselves, rather than avoiding in on the basis of a BS half assed repentance.”

Thanks for the advice but I prefer not to follow the bandwagon of negativity. I prefer to have a mind of my own and not be afraid to stand up for myself - actually rather like Perez did.

johnan

05-02-2015

Originally Posted by postit:
“You really should have made this thread about the despicable hopkins, not Perez.”

This just does not make sense.
It is not worth trying to point out why.

griffin5779

05-02-2015

Originally Posted by amyawake:
“Yes he brought a lot of it on himself....however, he was desperate to leave so behaved provocatively in order to get nominated. Unfortunately that did not happen.

Can you doubt that the man really suffered in there? I guess whether you have the ability to admit that (or detect it) may rest on the level of bias you have towards him. I can tell genuine from fake...there are giveaways, i.e. the look in the eyes, the tone of the voice. Many here have also witnessed that Perez was indeed suffering.”

My God he wasn't held hostage by extremist. He was a PAID contestant on a TV show and could of left at any time if he demanded to.

griffin5779

05-02-2015

Originally Posted by amyawake:
“The key point is that he provoked HMs in order to get nominated because he was suffering and wanted to leave!
”

NOOO...the key point is that he could have left at any time

griffin5779

05-02-2015

Originally Posted by liam_williams:
“people are just biased against perez eg. if calum was dancing half naked in front of the window, the house would have egged him on. not that he would because the kid is dull”

Some people are Biased FOR Perez....And as far i'm concerned you are wrong about calum..If he had acted like perez i would found it just as offensive and obnoxious.

anne_666

05-02-2015

Originally Posted by Dr Z:
“But thats the thing about REAL people, you get some negatives along with the good stuff, there is no law requiring us all to agree with each others opinions despite the narrative that teaches us otherwise.

Of course you could fabricate a persona that is all good with no faults (like most people try to present) but its all very fake.

Give me a warts and all real person over a fabricated persona any day.”

Any youth club will have a few members just like her. Hopefully for the other sake of the other adolescents' enjoyment, personal freedom and choices, they would be in the minority. She is an obnoxious bully.

Jules_Thornley

05-02-2015

Originally Posted by Flowes:
“Thanks for the advice but I prefer not to follow the bandwagon of negativity. I prefer to have a mind of my own and not be afraid to stand up for myself - actually rather like Perez did.”

Perez did try to stand up for himself or rather ahem.. Justify his behaviour. If you consider when he stood up for himself it was just really a case of 'I did this because I don't give a sh*t and it was all because me me me was threatened and really everyone should be thinking about me. Because it is the Perez show after all'.

Yeah he did stand up for himself and occasionally it was quite funny.

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