Originally Posted by An Thropologist:
“BIB No precisely the opposite.
Michelle has made a big deal of saying she is on BB to represent the gay community (what she means by that or why she thinks of BB as a forum in which any social group needs to be represented particularly, is anyone's guess). Yet her representation through this medium (BB) has associated her quite clearly with one particular aspect of gay culture.
You are probably right about our different social circles. In my social circle gay people are ordinary people who are focussed on running their businesses, doing their jobs, sitting on residents' associations, charity, PTFA and other such committees, gardening, dancing, taking part in sport, raising families in some cases. In other words they are no different in most respects to straight people and their daily preoccupations are much the same. One or two are a little more flamboyant than average but the same is true of some straight people.
I am always keen to improve my knowledge. I wonder if you can say the same. As I hadn't seen the show referred to I attempted to find out more about it. But rather than answer my question you chose to assume that I was inferring something negative (which I wasn't) and went off on one based on your own prejudicial assumptions about who I am and what I know. Assumptions that were quite wrong.
When I find I haven't as much knowledge as I might have, my attitude is to find out more. It seems in that matter we differ too. I notice you weren't the one to give me greater insight into this show and I am grateful to Honestlee for his insights. It sounds as if this show does take a more sympathetic view than I had hitherto thought.
My original remark was based on the experience that a show focussed on a particular community tends not to do that community much good in terms of public perception. Most of these shows are designed to present which ever minority group they portray as an entertaining oddity for the general populous to point and laugh at. Thanks to the poster that took the trouble to respond to my query I now know that this programme has different aims. Nevertheless it may not stop the average viewer from drawing the most reductive of impressions from it.
I would suggest that if you have any interest in getting a fairer portrayal of a particular group that you put down you campaign banner occasionally. Instead of trying to corner people in order to accuse them erroneously of being prejudiced you may find building rapport, listening and explaining are more effective weapons in whatever war it is you are fighting.”
“BIB No precisely the opposite.
Michelle has made a big deal of saying she is on BB to represent the gay community (what she means by that or why she thinks of BB as a forum in which any social group needs to be represented particularly, is anyone's guess). Yet her representation through this medium (BB) has associated her quite clearly with one particular aspect of gay culture.
You are probably right about our different social circles. In my social circle gay people are ordinary people who are focussed on running their businesses, doing their jobs, sitting on residents' associations, charity, PTFA and other such committees, gardening, dancing, taking part in sport, raising families in some cases. In other words they are no different in most respects to straight people and their daily preoccupations are much the same. One or two are a little more flamboyant than average but the same is true of some straight people.
I am always keen to improve my knowledge. I wonder if you can say the same. As I hadn't seen the show referred to I attempted to find out more about it. But rather than answer my question you chose to assume that I was inferring something negative (which I wasn't) and went off on one based on your own prejudicial assumptions about who I am and what I know. Assumptions that were quite wrong.
When I find I haven't as much knowledge as I might have, my attitude is to find out more. It seems in that matter we differ too. I notice you weren't the one to give me greater insight into this show and I am grateful to Honestlee for his insights. It sounds as if this show does take a more sympathetic view than I had hitherto thought.
My original remark was based on the experience that a show focussed on a particular community tends not to do that community much good in terms of public perception. Most of these shows are designed to present which ever minority group they portray as an entertaining oddity for the general populous to point and laugh at. Thanks to the poster that took the trouble to respond to my query I now know that this programme has different aims. Nevertheless it may not stop the average viewer from drawing the most reductive of impressions from it.
I would suggest that if you have any interest in getting a fairer portrayal of a particular group that you put down you campaign banner occasionally. Instead of trying to corner people in order to accuse them erroneously of being prejudiced you may find building rapport, listening and explaining are more effective weapons in whatever war it is you are fighting.”
Wow what a great post. Well done
