exactly no one can come up with anything bad that he said. now list katie hopkins
List the hurtful nasty thing Perez said or did to anyone
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Originally Posted by Flowes:
“He stole the spotlight from everyone.”
“He stole the spotlight from everyone.”
That's what it's all about frankly
Originally Posted by white tigress:
“It's called 'tough love' and is how one excludes anti-social, aggressive, selfish people from gaining the benefits of normal, decent, respectful general Society without resorting to violence. Perez's behaviour DID change 99% for the better once his idiotic co-enabler Nadia left; even Katie H had many good connections with him, bringing out his true OK 'Mario' side, which he'd been encouraged by Nadia NOT to show for reasons of her own.”
“It's called 'tough love' and is how one excludes anti-social, aggressive, selfish people from gaining the benefits of normal, decent, respectful general Society without resorting to violence. Perez's behaviour DID change 99% for the better once his idiotic co-enabler Nadia left; even Katie H had many good connections with him, bringing out his true OK 'Mario' side, which he'd been encouraged by Nadia NOT to show for reasons of her own.”
That's not tough love, it's an excuse for the bullies to feel superior over someone by ganging up on them. If they were really offended by Perez's behaviour there were other ways they could have handled him besides acting like a bunch of nasty schoolkids then picking on anyone who wouldnt fall into line with them like Nadia, Alicia and Katie P who refused to isolate Perez because Katie H and her cronies told them to.
The reason you haven't many answers is because people know that no matter what is said, there will be an "excuse" for it, or it will have been "deserved".
Originally Posted by B*witched:
“That's not tough love, it's an excuse for the bullies to feel superior over someone by ganging up on them. If they were really offended by Perez's behaviour there were other ways they could have handled him besides than acting like a bunch of nasty schoolkids then picking on anyone who wouldnt fall into line with them like Nadia, Alicia and Katie P who refused to isolate Perez because Katie H and her cronies told them to.”
“That's not tough love, it's an excuse for the bullies to feel superior over someone by ganging up on them. If they were really offended by Perez's behaviour there were other ways they could have handled him besides than acting like a bunch of nasty schoolkids then picking on anyone who wouldnt fall into line with them like Nadia, Alicia and Katie P who refused to isolate Perez because Katie H and her cronies told them to.”
He stood up to the bullies - they didn't like it; they're not used to it and they didn't know how to handle it.
From the perspective of a straight male, I find it abhorrent when a gay man says they would like to stick his dick up my arse, most straight males would tell you they find this disturbing and this should in no way be confused with homophobia because it just isn't. Perez knew fine and well about this and he tried this same tactic on Callum and Alexander and when alex reacted he played the victim and cried homophobia. He got Callum to react but not in a homophobic way. If a straight man said it to a women it would be bad enough but for a gay man to say it to a straight man, it really is deplorable. I've got many gay friends who are close to me and we spoke about this and they feel the same. They also know they would be crossing a line behaving like that. Would like too also add that if you met my gay friends you would on no terms realise they are gay, they act and look exactly like myself. you would only know if they told you. I know everybody is an individual but I find the opposite with perez. He is gay and wanted you know 24/7.
I honestly think he has harmed the perception of gay people to some not all of the british public.
I honestly think he has harmed the perception of gay people to some not all of the british public.
Originally Posted by Youcancallmeal:
“From the perspective of a straight male, I find it abhorrent when a gay man says they would like to stick his dick up my arse, most straight males would tell you they find this disturbing and this should in no way be confused with homophobia because it just isn't. Perez knew fine and well about this and he tried this same tactic on Callum and Alexander and when alex reacted he played the victim and cried homophobia. He got Callum to react but not in a homophobic way. If a straight man said it to a women it would be bad enough but for a gay man to say it to a straight man, it really is deplorable. I've got many gay friends who are close to me and we spoke about this and they feel the same. They also know they would be crossing a line behaving like that. Would like too also add that if you met my gay friends you would on no terms realise they are gay, they act and look exactly like myself. you would only know if they told you. I know everybody is an individual but I find the opposite with perez. He is gay and wanted you know 24/7.
I honestly think he has harmed the perception of gay people to some not all of the british public.”
“From the perspective of a straight male, I find it abhorrent when a gay man says they would like to stick his dick up my arse, most straight males would tell you they find this disturbing and this should in no way be confused with homophobia because it just isn't. Perez knew fine and well about this and he tried this same tactic on Callum and Alexander and when alex reacted he played the victim and cried homophobia. He got Callum to react but not in a homophobic way. If a straight man said it to a women it would be bad enough but for a gay man to say it to a straight man, it really is deplorable. I've got many gay friends who are close to me and we spoke about this and they feel the same. They also know they would be crossing a line behaving like that. Would like too also add that if you met my gay friends you would on no terms realise they are gay, they act and look exactly like myself. you would only know if they told you. I know everybody is an individual but I find the opposite with perez. He is gay and wanted you know 24/7.
I honestly think he has harmed the perception of gay people to some not all of the british public.”
BIB Why just gay people? why hasn't he harmed the perception of cuban american people? why pick on that one specific aspect of him?
Originally Posted by kravchic:
“BIB Why just gay people? why hasn't he harmed the perception of cuban american people? why pick on that one specific aspect of him?”
“BIB Why just gay people? why hasn't he harmed the perception of cuban american people? why pick on that one specific aspect of him?”
Because of him using his sexuality to winding up straight housemates(Callum and alex). Then crying homophobia. That's why.
Originally Posted by Master Ozzy:
“Is anyone actually going to come up with a list of things?I'd be shocked if anyone was able to.”
“Is anyone actually going to come up with a list of things?I'd be shocked if anyone was able to.”
No, just excuses like havent the time or Perez supporters will find excuses - would be nice to be given the opportunity to find an excuse for something he did but it seems there really isn't anything he did after all to cause offence.
Originally Posted by Youcancallmeal:
“Because of him using his sexuality to winding up straight housemates(Callum and alex). Then crying homophobia. That's why.”
“Because of him using his sexuality to winding up straight housemates(Callum and alex). Then crying homophobia. That's why.”
I can't get my head around the level of hate directed at him from some quarters. You dislike him, you find him obnoxious, fine. But the hyperbolic vitriol thrown at him is OTT.
Do you think he was worse than Dennis the spitter? or the ones that put scabs in Science's food? or the guy that poo'd in the fridge?
What has he really done?
Originally Posted by ksmiggy:
“The reason you haven't many answers is because people know that no matter what is said, there will be an "excuse" for it, or it will have been "deserved".”
“The reason you haven't many answers is because people know that no matter what is said, there will be an "excuse" for it, or it will have been "deserved".”
Why not put your theory to the test.
Originally Posted by kravchic:
“I can't get my head around the level of hate directed at him from some quarters. You dislike him, you find him obnoxious, fine. But the hyperbolic vitriol thrown at him is OTT.
Do you think he was worse than Dennis the spitter? or the ones that put scabs in Science's food? or the guy that poo'd in the fridge?
What has he really done?”
“I can't get my head around the level of hate directed at him from some quarters. You dislike him, you find him obnoxious, fine. But the hyperbolic vitriol thrown at him is OTT.
Do you think he was worse than Dennis the spitter? or the ones that put scabs in Science's food? or the guy that poo'd in the fridge?
What has he really done?”
None of those you mention did CBB, they were not zelebs.
Originally Posted by Youcancallmeal:
“From the perspective of a straight male, I find it abhorrent when a gay man says they would like to stick his dick up my arse.”
“From the perspective of a straight male, I find it abhorrent when a gay man says they would like to stick his dick up my arse.”
But he didn't say that he'd "like to" or 'his'.
Calum called him a dick, so Perez responded by saying (wtte) 'Yes, a huge dick...and I'll stick it up your ass'.
Shove/stick it up your ass is an everyday saying, akin to IDGAF, GTH, who cares, I don't need/want it anyway, etc.
As Perez explained in the DR afterwards, he didn't mean literally, it was figurative.
So why all the faux-outrage to try justify hatred for a relatively harmless person who was ostracised for being loud, ott and just trying to have some fun?
The only crime he committed was daring to have a personality infront of those with very little or none.
Originally Posted by Scamps8:
“I haven't got three hours to spare to list them all
”
“I haven't got three hours to spare to list them all
”
In other words, you've got nothing.
I liked him, and still like him. I don't know anything about him outwith the house, but I thought he was fine in this show. I love flamboyant, vibrant people, having fun, and I especially love bright, intelligent wit. He brought all that into the house, and more, and I will truly miss him brightening up my life. If that was the real Perez/Mario, I wish he lived next door to me: he'd be welcome any time. My favourite moment was when he said "Sorry if I offended idiots." So-o-o--o ironic and smart! I can only assume that the people daft enough to waste their money voting are also too daft to get his humour or see through the game-playing tactics of the other housemates.
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“None of those you mention did CBB, they were not zelebs.”
“None of those you mention did CBB, they were not zelebs.”
We've been seeing things posted here like he's the lowest of the low, a vile human being. Those people I listed were human beings if not celebs. Looking at him as a human being and not a rarified celeb, what has he really done that was so bad in comparison to those examples I listed?
Originally Posted by Flora_McDonald:
“I liked him, and still like him. I don't know anything about him outwith the house, but I thought he was fine in this show. I love flamboyant, vibrant people, having fun, and I especially love bright, intelligent wit. He brought all that into the house, and more, and I will truly miss him brightening up my life. If that was the real Perez/Mario, I wish he lived next door to me: he'd be welcome any time. My favourite moment was when he said "Sorry if I offended idiots." So-o-o--o ironic and smart! I can only assume that the people daft enough to waste their money voting are also too daft to get his humour or see through the game-playing tactics of the other housemates.”
“I liked him, and still like him. I don't know anything about him outwith the house, but I thought he was fine in this show. I love flamboyant, vibrant people, having fun, and I especially love bright, intelligent wit. He brought all that into the house, and more, and I will truly miss him brightening up my life. If that was the real Perez/Mario, I wish he lived next door to me: he'd be welcome any time. My favourite moment was when he said "Sorry if I offended idiots." So-o-o--o ironic and smart! I can only assume that the people daft enough to waste their money voting are also too daft to get his humour or see through the game-playing tactics of the other housemates.”
Excellent post
Originally Posted by sangreal:
“But he didn't say that he'd "like to" or 'his'.
Calum called him a dick, so Perez responded by saying (wtte) 'Yes, a huge dick...and I'll stick it up your ass'.
Shove/stick it up your ass is an everyday saying, akin to IDGAF, GTH, who cares, I don't need/want it anyway, etc.
As Perez explained in the DR afterwards, he didn't mean literally, it was figurative.
So why all the faux-outrage to try justify hatred for a relatively harmless person who was ostracised for being loud, ott and just trying to have some fun?”
“But he didn't say that he'd "like to" or 'his'.
Calum called him a dick, so Perez responded by saying (wtte) 'Yes, a huge dick...and I'll stick it up your ass'.
Shove/stick it up your ass is an everyday saying, akin to IDGAF, GTH, who cares, I don't need/want it anyway, etc.
As Perez explained in the DR afterwards, he didn't mean literally, it was figurative.
So why all the faux-outrage to try justify hatred for a relatively harmless person who was ostracised for being loud, ott and just trying to have some fun?”
That's absolute nonsense he knew exactly what he was saying when he said I will stick it up your ass. He had previous with alex. Your obviously Perez fan so there will be no reasoning with. Bye
Originally Posted by Concretepigsy:
“Look at his Wikipedia page to see how "nice" he is. Some people really are deluded”
“Look at his Wikipedia page to see how "nice" he is. Some people really are deluded”
People keep dodging the question, I was talking about what happened in the CBB house, and I never said he was "nice". I have have asked repeatedly what has he really done (in the house), that makes him the lowest of the low and a vile human being, in comparison to the outrageous things people have done on BB in the past.
Originally Posted by lynzee:
“Can nobody come up with anything?
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“Can nobody come up with anything?
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Well the fact that you yourself cannot come up with anything proves that your simply stirring just like Hopkins...in which case your thread is rubbish.
Originally Posted by Concretepigsy:
“Look at his Wikipedia page to see how "nice" he is. Some people really are deluded”
“Look at his Wikipedia page to see how "nice" he is. Some people really are deluded”
I think this thread is about what he has done inside the house that was nasty & cruel.
Originally Posted by Youcancallmeal:
“That's absolute nonsense he knew exactly what he was saying when he said I will stick it up your ass. He had previous with alex. Your obviously Perez fan so there will be no reasoning with. Bye”
“That's absolute nonsense he knew exactly what he was saying when he said I will stick it up your ass. He had previous with alex. Your obviously Perez fan so there will be no reasoning with. Bye”
Oooh a flounce. I do love a good flounce, but that one wasn't.
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