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List the hurtful nasty thing Perez said or did to anyone
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ksmiggy
05-02-2015
Originally Posted by Kay2000:
“Why not put your theory to the test.”

Originally Posted by kravchic:
“I think the diversionary tactics used here which someone has already mentioned are because people are not yet ready to admit that they have allowed themselves to be manipulated into a hate frenzy by C5 the only thing missing are the flaming torches and pitchforks”


The public reaction to him and his lack of support says it all, there is nothing more that can be said, he is out because he is not nice.
mmpfb
05-02-2015
Originally Posted by Youcancallmeal:
“From the perspective of a straight male, I find it abhorrent when a gay man says they would like to stick his dick up my arse, most straight males would tell you they find this disturbing and this should in no way be confused with homophobia because it just isn't. Perez knew fine and well about this and he tried this same tactic on Callum and Alexander and when alex reacted he played the victim and cried homophobia. He got Callum to react but not in a homophobic way. If a straight man said it to a women it would be bad enough but for a gay man to say it to a straight man, it really is deplorable. I've got many gay friends who are close to me and we spoke about this and they feel the same. They also know they would be crossing a line behaving like that. Would like too also add that if you met my gay friends you would on no terms realise they are gay, they act and look exactly like myself. you would only know if they told you. I know everybody is an individual but I find the opposite with perez. He is gay and wanted you know 24/7.
I honestly think he has harmed the perception of gay people to some not all of the british public.”

And there we have it. Perez's biggest crime is that he was too overtly gay. And not in a 'good gay' way like cuddly Brian Dowling or Graham Norton who giggle and give little knowing winks, but in a 'bad gay' way like those awful men you here about sometimes who do things with, shock horror, their penises.

Perez was so gay he filled the room with gay. I'm surprsied the house didn't explode with the pressure of all that Gay in there, pressing suggestively up against the walls. Gay was oozing out of the house into the street and attacking small innocent children. Gay seeped into our water supplies and infected the nation with sheer unadulterated and frankly abhorrentGay. You won't all be laughing about Perez's antics once everyone realises all our good honest British children are all now Gay and the country will die out or be taken over by ISIS or something. House prices will fall, everyone will have AIDS and/or a sizeable Kylie CD selection, the country will be a pink barren wasteland where real women are scorned, vaginas are outlawed and you can't buy power tools anywhere.
YesNoMan
05-02-2015
[Pops back in]




No?




[Pops back out]
Scamps8
05-02-2015
Originally Posted by Flowes:
“I think people are struggling and therefore using diversion tactics”


Nope they just can't be bothered to spare one ounce of energy talking about him any longer. They are soooo glad he is gone and gone from the TV a screen. We have said so many times in other threads why he was so obnoxious. Why bother repeating when he is over
Toy_Hero
05-02-2015
I know if I was in there i'd be pissed off with Perez too. He may not have said a lot of nasty things like Hopkins might have, but his actions have been atrocious. Hopkins crap was directed at him, but his seem to be directed to the whole house. He seemed to live by the mindset of "Oh I know nobody likes when I do this, so i'm going to do it."

People may have found him entertaining, but I found him embarrassing, pathetic and desperate to get under everbodies skin. The whole coughing incident sounds small in comparison to things, but trying to keep people awake at night is so pathetic. Also knowing it was pissing Alex off, why did he have to further it by deliberately sitting across from him to stare and smile to antagonize the man further?

Also the whole grinding on windows and chairs and making lewd sexual gestures with his tongue just to try and piss Hopkins off (though fair enough she tried to piss him off, but his choice of actions were embarrassing)

He's one big defense mechanism of a guy. He brought a lot of the shit he got on himself. He's sitting saying to Calum that he doesn't give a f*ck if nobody likes him because he doesn't like anybody in the house anyway, and that it won't effect him. Yet only the other day he's up in the DR gurning because it hurts that nobody likes him..

He wears thin pretty quickly.
Jules_Thornley
05-02-2015
Perez is a genius at bullying. He did not have to say much. He said it himself - he did it mostly by his actions in his interview with Emma.

The worst bullies don't appear to be doing much but are responsible for a lot. It's a clever way of no one being able to point the finger.
kaceyy
05-02-2015
Originally Posted by B*witched:
“That's not tough love, it's an excuse for the bullies to feel superior over someone by ganging up on them. If they were really offended by Perez's behaviour there were other ways they could have handled him besides acting like a bunch of nasty schoolkids then picking on anyone who wouldnt fall into line with them like Nadia, Alicia and Katie P who refused to isolate Perez because Katie H and her cronies told them to.”

This is what it comes down to for me, all through this series i keep hearing Perez has offended people in the house in some way, is that not what we fight for? The right to offend? Katie Hopkins whole shtick is riling people up, going against the grain and offending people, this is what people are championing her for, so how can that same reason be used against Perez? It's the same feeling i have about Alicia on bit on the side they said she was boring and dim yet in the same breath praised katie price for being nice and not getting involved the whole show has been hypocritical from start to finish.. Genuinely also believe the show has been aimed at making Katie Hopkins some sort of saint from the start.
kravchic
05-02-2015
Originally Posted by mmpfb:
“And there we have it. Perez's biggest crime is that he was too overtly gay. And not in a 'good gay' way like cuddly Brian Dowling or Graham Norton who giggle and give little knowing winks, but in a 'bad gay' way like those awful men you here about sometimes who do things with, shock horror, their penises.

Perez was so gay he filled the room with gay. I'm surprsied the house didn't explode with the pressure of all that Gay in there, pressing suggestively up against the walls. Gay was oozing out of the house into the street and attacking small innocent children. Gay seeped into our water supplies and infected the nation with sheer unadulterated and frankly abhorrentGay. You won't all be laughing about Perez's antics once everyone realises all our good honest British children are all now Gay and the country will die out or be taken over by ISIS or something. House prices will fall, everyone will have AIDS and/or a sizeable Kylie CD selection, the country will be a pink barren wasteland where real women are scorned, vaginas are outlawed and you can't buy power tools anywhere.”

You know I suspected there was this behind it, but I wasn't brave enough to say so. Thank u for having the balls
mmpfb
05-02-2015
Originally Posted by Toy_Hero:
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People may have found him entertaining, but I found him embarrassing, pathetic and desperate to get under everbodies skin. The whole coughing incident sounds small in comparison to things, but trying to keep people awake at night is so pathetic. Also knowing it was pissing Alex off, why did he have to further it by deliberately sitting across from him to stare and smile to antagonize the man further?”

Because Alex had already displayed quite aggressive homophobia? Because Alex had a little rant about Perez breathing on his food? Because Alex had grabbed his d*** and said 'I'll get in your ass. Yeah you want this? Come get it'. Because Alex gesticulated firing a gun while saying 'Bam Bam Boom?'. I dunno, just a hunch.
kaceyy
05-02-2015
Originally Posted by Toy_Hero:
“I know if I was in there i'd be pissed off with Perez too. He may not have said a lot of nasty things like Hopkins might have, but his actions have been atrocious. Hopkins crap was directed at him, but his seem to be directed to the whole house. He seemed to live by the mindset of "Oh I know nobody likes when I do this, so i'm going to do it."

People may have found him entertaining, but I found him embarrassing, pathetic and desperate to get under everbodies skin. The whole coughing incident sounds small in comparison to things, but trying to keep people awake at night is so pathetic. Also knowing it was pissing Alex off, why did he have to further it by deliberately sitting across from him to stare and smile to antagonize the man further?

Also the whole grinding on windows and chairs and making lewd sexual gestures with his tongue just to try and piss Hopkins off (though fair enough she tried to piss him off, but his choice of actions were embarrassing)

He's one big defense mechanism of a guy. He brought a lot of the shit he got on himself. He's sitting saying to Calum that he doesn't give a f*ck if nobody likes him because he doesn't like anybody in the house anyway, and that it won't effect him. Yet only the other day he's up in the DR gurning because it hurts that nobody likes him..

He wears thin pretty quickly.”

All of this makes perfect sense Perez doing things to get a rise out of people i can see that, however that does not justify death threats towards him or the kind of hatred he's been recieving. Katie Hopkins may have said something against gingers or Islam or even if she made disparaging remarks about my family i wouldn't say she deserved to be bullied/isolated for her actions. No one deserves that, last years winner Helen Wood should show you there are far worst people out there who recieve more respect than Perez has while he hasn't done anything near what Helen did.
hazy-days
05-02-2015
Originally Posted by mmpfb:
“And there we have it. Perez's biggest crime is that he was too overtly gay. And not in a 'good gay' way like cuddly Brian Dowling or Graham Norton who giggle and give little knowing winks, but in a 'bad gay' way like those awful men you here about sometimes who do things with, shock horror, their penises.

Perez was so gay he filled the room with gay. I'm surprsied the house didn't explode with the pressure of all that Gay in there, pressing suggestively up against the walls. Gay was oozing out of the house into the street and attacking small innocent children. Gay seeped into our water supplies and infected the nation with sheer unadulterated and frankly abhorrentGay. You won't all be laughing about Perez's antics once everyone realises all our good honest British children are all now Gay and the country will die out or be taken over by ISIS or something. House prices will fall, everyone will have AIDS and/or a sizeable Kylie CD selection, the country will be a pink barren wasteland where real women are scorned, vaginas are outlawed and you can't buy power tools anywhere.”

I think I love you.
kaceyy
05-02-2015
Originally Posted by mmpfb:
“Because Alex had already displayed quite aggressive homophobia? Because Alex had a little rant about Perez breathing on his food? Because Alex had grabbed his d*** and said 'I'll get in your ass. Yeah you want this? Come get it'. Because Alex gesticulated firing a gun while saying 'Bam Bam Boom?'. I dunno, just a hunch.”

Good point well made.
stick_of_rock
05-02-2015
I can't abide Perez but must admit I would find it difficult to come up with many instances where his actions outwardly seem overly nasty or cruel- and that's part of the reason he's such a detestable character for me. He's incredibly good at manipulating situations and is very clever in this respect. He can goad people very well and get a rise out of them, ensuring they are the ones to look bad in the fallout.

The instance with Alexander is a perfect example. Perez hides behind the fact he's 'being silly and fun' and cleverly avoids, for the most part, doing anything that is actually nasty or mean in any real sense. Obviously smiling/blowing kisses at someone is ostensibly an innocent act, but in context of the situation he was deliberately provoking and taunting a man he had already massively wound up. He then readily claimed to be offended and frightened when it suited him, meaning that he came across as the wounded party. He prides himself on being honest and 'owning' everything and plays the innocent, knowing full well that he's deliberately been antagonistic and provocative. The man is a coward and I can't stand him. But, yes, it is admittedly difficult to pinpoint times where he's been 'nasty' or 'hurtful' without them seeming insignificant out of context.

For the record, before I get attacked for this, I'm not much of a fan of Katie Hopkins either. Her treatment of Perez is something I can generally get on board with (because of the above), but there was no need for her to be quite so nasty to Alicia IMO. That said, she is still infinitely preferable to Hilton in every way.

LONG POST. Apologies. I very rarely post but apparently when I do, I go to town.
YesNoMan
05-02-2015
Originally Posted by Scamps8:
“Nope they just can't be bothered to spare one ounce of energy talking about him any longer.”

Nope, that doesn't wash.
sootysoo
05-02-2015
Originally Posted by mmpfb:
“Because Alex had already displayed quite aggressive homophobia? Because Alex had a little rant about Perez breathing on his food? Because Alex had grabbed his d*** and said 'I'll get in your ass. Yeah you want this? Come get it'. Because Alex gesticulated firing a gun while saying 'Bam Bam Boom?'. I dunno, just a hunch.”

Exactly right. Yet precious Michelle wasn't quick to tell off Alex was she? She sat back while Alex called Perez a faggot, yet claims she's a representative of the LGBT community? She's scum.
planets
05-02-2015
Originally Posted by hazy-days:
“I think I love you.”

leave off he's mine
EuroFoxi
05-02-2015
I think the type of people who make these threads already have their minds made up. Trolls tend to ignore posts that actually justifiably answer their 'question'. The end of it is, he has been evicted, and for good reason. The majority of the viewing/voting public can't be wrong against perhaps half a dozen of DS forum members.
hazy-days
05-02-2015
Originally Posted by planets:
“leave off he's mine ”

Sorry I was massively overwhelmed by someone speaking the truth and I lost all self-control for a second.
planets
05-02-2015
Originally Posted by hazy-days:
“ Sorry I was massively overwhelmed by someone speaking the truth and I lost all self-control for a second.”

to be honest hazy i can't blame you, mmpfb's posts are irresistible
mmpfb
05-02-2015
Originally Posted by hazy-days:
“ Sorry I was massively overwhelmed by someone speaking the truth and I lost all self-control for a second.”

It's fine. I'll just have a harem.
kaceyy
05-02-2015
Originally Posted by Concretepigsy:
“He is blaming his treatment by others for his behaviour in the house, when it's clearly how he behaves all the time, and people STILL defend him”

His 'behaviour' while annoying to some wasn't spiteful or aimed at berating others, it was him being him, that's what we want in big brother surely? Housemates being themselves without being rude/vindictive etc. if he did nothing we'd call him boring, if he was talking about gay rights the whole time we'd call hima one trick pony, if he was a bully people would say he was had no place in the house. All he did was have fun and was nice to those who were good to him, so if you were in that situation and Katie Hopkins and her Clique were berating you, name calling and isolating you i think you would in turn not behave 'appropriately' correct? Since you would be in a situation where ANYTHING you did would be ignored after a while there would be nothing you could do that wouldn't offend someone.. To his credit though Perez has taken everything they have thrown at him and personally he's a better person than the rest of the house except for perhaps Keith and Katie Price.
Kay2000
05-02-2015
Originally Posted by ksmiggy:
“The public reaction to him and his lack of support says it all, there is nothing more that can be said, he is out because he is not nice.”

Or maybe just he's out because some just find him annoying, nothing to do with being nasty or cruel.
Concretepigsy
05-02-2015
Originally Posted by kravchic:
“How do you know what he behaves like ALL THE TIME? You psychic?
We have seen that he behaves completely normally in his interactions with Nadia, who as he said in his LW interview shows him love and acceptance.”

Not psychic, just able to research because my head isn't stuck up his arse like most of his supporters on here.
Can I refer you to the vile things he does in his day job. Look at his Wikipedia page and see what a lovely man he is

Leopards and spots spring to mind, but that's an insult to leopards and spots
EuroFoxi
05-02-2015
Originally Posted by Concretepigsy:
“Not psychic, just able to research because my head isn't stuck up his arse like most of his supporters on here.
Can I refer you to the vile things he does in his day job. Look at his Wikipedia page and see what a lovely man he is

Leopards and spots spring to mind, but that's an insult to leopards and spots”

Hey! Don't make me call the WWF on you.
kravchic
05-02-2015
Originally Posted by Kay2000:
“Or maybe just he's out because some just find him annoying, nothing to do with being nasty or cruel.”

Yes it's reasonable to find him annoying. What's unreasonable is that he's had death threats and been called the lowest of the low and a vile human being, why? the point of this thread was to dig and see if there was anything that warranted that kind of attitude towards him. I can see nothing except weak minds being whipped up into a frenzy of hate based on not very much
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