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List the hurtful nasty thing Perez said or did to anyone
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planets
05-02-2015
Originally Posted by mmpfb:
“It's fine. I'll just have a harem. ”

you're gonna need a bigger house, the numbers are starting to stack up
radders2012
05-02-2015
Really? Check all the other threads there are plenty of things and to name a few:
Told Michelle she was a disgrace to the community by being friends with KH
suggesting to Cami that she les up with Chloe to get air time
Nominating Chloe to get at Cami because he couldn't nominate her
The whole situation with Alex - reported here many times before
Humping furniture and the window in the garden to wind people up (which he admitted to Keith)
Wrongfully accusing KH of homophobia
The Aids analogy - yes I get it but its still a disgusting thing to say
Saying he will stick his big dick up Callum's arse
Saying if he was KHs child he would kill himself
Constantly going to the diary room with the rule book to report other HMs
Told Michelle she doesn't represent the community she works tirelessly for
Those are just off the top of my head

And as for suggesting people don't like him because he is gay - his apologists will stoop to any level to defend their hero!
I dislike him because he is a narcissist who takes no responsibility for his actions - constantly goads others then claims victimisation when they react.
Nuff Said
Toy_Hero
05-02-2015
Originally Posted by kaceyy:
“All of this makes perfect sense Perez doing things to get a rise out of people i can see that, however that does not justify death threats towards him or the kind of hatred he's been recieving. Katie Hopkins may have said something against gingers or Islam or even if she made disparaging remarks about my family i wouldn't say she deserved to be bullied/isolated for her actions. No one deserves that, last years winner Helen Wood should show you there are far worst people out there who recieve more respect than Perez has while he hasn't done anything near what Helen did.”

I agree. Helen was all about aggression. I don't think Perez has been hurtful or nasty, but he has become a super annoyance. His whole scheme has been trying to get under your skin to the point of snapping. He wants a rise out of people and he seeks a reaction. It's like that annoying fly that you can't get rid off. He seems to need attention to focus. I'm surprised camera's weren't dropping off the walls around him because they didn't want to look at him. He's too much of too much
threecheeses
05-02-2015
Originally Posted by radders2012:
“Really? Check all the other threads there are plenty of things and to name a few:
Told Michelle she was a disgrace to the community by being friends with KH
suggesting to Cami that she les up with Chloe to get air time
Nominating Chloe to get at Cami because he couldn't nominate her
The whole situation with Alex - reported here many times before
Humping furniture and the window in the garden to wind people up (which he admitted to Keith)
Wrongfully accusing KH of homophobia
The Aids analogy - yes I get it but its still a disgusting thing to say
Saying he will stick his big dick up Callum's arse
Saying if he was KHs child he would kill himself
Constantly going to the diary room with the rule book to report other HMs
Told Michelle she doesn't represent the community she works tirelessly for
Those are just off the top of my head”

Stoning is too good for him.
James_Barker1
05-02-2015
A couple of posts in this thread seem to be rewriting history.

1. Alex goading Perez in the cage happened AFTER Perez had been goading Alex. It doesn't make Alex right, but it changes the context. Perez was not a victim reacting, he was instigating and provoking to get a reaction, which was his intention. Alex's behaviour does not justify Perez, and yes Alex's behaviour is bad, but that is not the topic of discussion on this thread.

2. The post saying Michelle just sat by when Alex called Perez a f****t is wrong. She right away reacted in a manner similar to how she spoke to Ken when she asked him if she would violent f**k Callum.
James_Barker1
05-02-2015
As for what he did, and I do agree that Perez did not deserve death threats or his treatment on BOTS, (then again Luisa being a bitch is hardly a great surprise, hated her on the Apprentice, hated her once again on Big Brother), however I think the housemate's behaviour towards him was understandable in the main, Cami-Li and Katie Hopkins did overstep the mark with the name calling.

I think part of the reason people have struggled in responding to this thread in a list, is because of Perez's ability to manipulate situations without him seeming to do much as a couple of other posters have discussed, but also Perez's worst behaviour was in the first week, which now a few weeks on people have forgotten some of the concrete details, but still, rightly in my view, hold that feeling towards Perez as a housemate. But anyway, I'll give it a go:

1. His having to be centre of attention was fine apart from the situation with Jeremy, where Chloe was the person needing support, and Perez made it about how HE did not feel safe with Jeremy in there. He attempted to stir up hate about Jeremy and this was an attempt to ostracise him.

2. Leaping onto Ken when he asked Michelle whether she'd violently f**k Callum. Michelle was handling it. Perez wanted to fight.

3. Saying to Ken 'when you leave the house I would be frighted for my safety if I were you.' And when being warned for this, he said 'I deliberately said it like that to make him uncomfortable.' No apology and his behaviour was threatening, Perez said that he wanted it to come across threatening.

Those three things I believe are Perez's worst and because of the situation with Ken and Jeremy being so extreme, Perez's attention seeking and disregard to how other housemates feel were inappropriate and unacceptable. For me, Perez crossed a moral line with his actions in those situations that were quite serious. The remainder of his time in the house his attention seeking and goading have been in less serious contexts, however I can't forget the past and I think the episode where Jeremy got kicked out showed that Nadia, Katie and Michelle when push comes to shove would ultimately act decently. Perez showed that he couldn't.
lynzee
05-02-2015
Originally Posted by Scamps8:
“I haven't got three hours to spare to list them all”

Then just list one or two.
Concretepigsy
05-02-2015
Originally Posted by lynzee:
“Then just list one or two.”

There are 2 posts right above yours that list several
postit
05-02-2015
Originally Posted by mmpfb:
“And there we have it. Perez's biggest crime is that he was too overtly gay. And not in a 'good gay' way like cuddly Brian Dowling or Graham Norton who giggle and give little knowing winks, but in a 'bad gay' way like those awful men you here about sometimes who do things with, shock horror, their penises.

Perez was so gay he filled the room with gay. I'm surprsied the house didn't explode with the pressure of all that Gay in there, pressing suggestively up against the walls. Gay was oozing out of the house into the street and attacking small innocent children. Gay seeped into our water supplies and infected the nation with sheer unadulterated and frankly abhorrentGay. You won't all be laughing about Perez's antics once everyone realises all our good honest British children are all now Gay and the country will die out or be taken over by ISIS or something. House prices will fall, everyone will have AIDS and/or a sizeable Kylie CD selection, the country will be a pink barren wasteland where real women are scorned, vaginas are outlawed and you can't buy power tools anywhere.”

Excellent Good observation of the REAL reason some people are so against Perez
open heart
05-02-2015
Originally Posted by Scamps8:
“I haven't got three hours to spare to list them all”


Oh go on Scamps just give it a few mins or even secs....
amyawake
05-02-2015
Originally Posted by lynzee:
“Let's see what you, that say what a vile character Perez is, can come up with.”

lynzee...let it go, Perez has been released!

He had many faults but he was Mr. Entertainment in there and many liked him for that (I did, although I dislied who he was).

Emma announced that he has been one of the best HMs EVER!!
postit
05-02-2015
Originally Posted by Scamps8:
“Nope they just can't be bothered to spare one ounce of energy talking about him any longer. They are soooo glad he is gone and gone from the TV a screen. We have said so many times in other threads why he was so obnoxious. Why bother repeating when he is over”

Because you can't think of one thing. G'on, you know confession is good for the soul.
Dextor_Morgan
05-02-2015
Originally Posted by lynzee:
“Let's see what you, that say what a vile character Perez is, can come up with.”

He's gone, you need to move on.
lynzee
05-02-2015
Originally Posted by Concretepigsy:
“There are 2 posts right above yours that list several”

Yes I do see a few thing listed none of them warrant calling him a vile human being and many of the other names he has been called though. He was an irritating individual in the house I agree, whose comebacks to other people's nasty comments were at times a bit extreme. But I do find many of the comments on here about him even more extreme and quite frankly rather laughable.

Let's face it, it took quite a while for someone to scrape the barrel to even come up with those few.
postit
05-02-2015
Originally Posted by radders2012:
“Really? Check all the other threads there are plenty of things and to name a few:
Told Michelle she was a disgrace to the community by being friends with KH
suggesting to Cami that she les up with Chloe to get air time
Nominating Chloe to get at Cami because he couldn't nominate her
The whole situation with Alex - reported here many times before
Humping furniture and the window in the garden to wind people up (which he admitted to Keith)
Wrongfully accusing KH of homophobia
The Aids analogy - yes I get it but its still a disgusting thing to say
Saying he will stick his big dick up Callum's arse
Saying if he was KHs child he would kill himself
Constantly going to the diary room with the rule book to report other HMs
Told Michelle she doesn't represent the community she works tirelessly for
Those are just off the top of my head

And as for suggesting people don't like him because he is gay - his apologists will stoop to any level to defend their hero!
I dislike him because he is a narcissist who takes no responsibility for his actions - constantly goads others then claims victimisation when they react.
Nuff Said”

First BIB I think you'll find that Michelle herself will realise the truth of this once out of the house

2nd BIB If you think that's vile, don't ever go near a children's playground (rolls eyes)

3rd BIB Taken in the correct context it was a perfect analogy

4th BIB Again, taken in the context of hopkins saying she would happily lock him away, the perfect comeback

5th BIB He spoke the absolute truth as he and many others saw it. She professes to champion the dispossessed. She doesn't.

As for the rest, really, too tiresome and silly.
mmpfb
05-02-2015
Originally Posted by radders2012:
“Told Michelle she was a disgrace to the community by being friends with KH”

I don't remember him using the word 'disgrace', though I do remember Michelle using it about Perez. Also, it's a valid criticism - a self-appointed equality campaigner being friends with someone who actively promotes and revels in prejudice?

Originally Posted by radders2012:
“suggesting to Cami that she les up with Chloe to get air time”

This thread is asking for hurtful and nasty things Perez has said, not misjudged and potentially inappropriate.


Originally Posted by radders2012:
“Nominating Chloe to get at Cami because he couldn't nominate her”

Oh noes. Nominated? Really? Wow. I don't think that's ever happened in the Big Brother house before has it?

Originally Posted by radders2012:
“The whole situation with Alex - reported here many times before”

Which bit? Perez blowing kisses? Or Alex's peacock-like homophobia with such gems as 'I'm going to get in your ass. You want it? Come get it', 'You know what would happen in the States' (violence presumably), imitating gunfire and, my personal favourite, 'faggot-ass face'.

Originally Posted by radders2012:
“Humping furniture and the window in the garden to wind people up (which he admitted to Keith)”

Anybody remember Kinga? Yeah.

Originally Posted by radders2012:
“Wrongfully accusing KH of homophobia”

Overeaction, granted. Not really hurtful or nasty though. Hell, she takes pride in her bigotries, what's another one to add to the list?

Originally Posted by radders2012:
“The Aids analogy - yes I get it but its still a disgusting thing to say”

Drama queen in being dramatic SHOCKER.

Originally Posted by radders2012:
“Saying he will stick his big dick up Callum's arse”

Rude, sure. Hurtful? Not really. Unless Callum's sense of manhood is so fragile he's ridiculously offended at the very thought of the theoretical possibility of an imaginary figurative penis in a mythical universe anywhere near his abstract self's intangible bum. Dude overreacted.

Originally Posted by radders2012:
“Saying if he was KHs child he would kill himself”

I probably would too. My mum's bigotry is depressing enough at times, but it's a mere smidgeon compared to Hopkin's.

Originally Posted by radders2012:
“Constantly going to the diary room with the rule book to report other HMs”

Oh noes.

Originally Posted by radders2012:
“Told Michelle she doesn't represent the community she works tirelessly for”

She doesn't. She may support equal rights. Good on her. But she doesn't represent me or many other members of the gay community. It's presumptive and arrogant for her to suggest she does. He was right to challenge that.


Originally Posted by radders2012:
“Those are just off the top of my head”

Thanks for trying, though.

Originally Posted by radders2012:
“And as for suggesting people don't like him because he is gay - his apologists will stoop to any level to defend their hero!”

There are certainly *some* people who don't like him because he's gay. There are also *some* people who don't like him because he's the wrong sort of gay. There's posts on this very thread that demonstrate that fairly clearly.


Originally Posted by radders2012:
“Nuff Said”

Not really.
James_Barker1
05-02-2015
Originally Posted by lynzee:
“Yes I do see a few thing listed none of them warrant calling him a vile human being and many of the other names he has been called though. He was an irritating individual in the house I agree, whose comebacks to other people's nasty comments were at times a bit extreme. But I do find many of the comments on here about him even more extreme and quite frankly rather laughable.

Let's face it, it took quite a while for someone to scrape the barrel to even come up with those few.”

Would you be able to engage with the examples and arguments people have given. All due respect but it just seems you started the thread just to dismiss opinions you disagree with and prove yourself right.

In my post I did say that his irritating behaviour is not what I had a problem with, when he isolated housemates and was threatening, that was beyond being irritating and extreme.
lynzee
05-02-2015
Originally Posted by mmpfb:
“I don't remember him using the word 'disgrace', though I do remember Michelle using it about Perez. Also, it's a valid criticism - a self-appointed equality campaigner being friends with someone who actively promotes and revels in prejudice?



This thread is asking for hurtful and nasty things Perez has said, not misjudged and potentially inappropriate.





Thanks for trying, though.



There are certainly *some* people who don't like him because he's gay. There are also *some* people who don't like him because he's the wrong sort of gay. There's posts on this very thread that demonstrate that fairly clearly.




Not really.”

Thank you for a great post. Wish I could have replied to that ridiculous post as eloquently as you did!
sheila blige
05-02-2015
Originally Posted by lynzee:
“Let's see what you, that say what a vile character Perez is, can come up with.”

Nope! You've got me stumped. Sure he was a pain in the arse (an entertaining pain in the arse nevertheless) but I can't recall him actually being cruel or unkind to anyone - other than with a reactionary remark to someone who started it with him first.
KT_Dog
05-02-2015
Originally Posted by lynzee:
“Let's see what you, that say what a vile character Perez is, can come up with.”

This threads no good for me I don't think he's vile and nasty. I think he's a bell-end. Can we have a thread where we come up with reasons why he's a bell-end instead?
lynzee
05-02-2015
Originally Posted by James_Barker1:
“Would you be able to engage with the examples and arguments people have given. All due respect but it just seems you started the thread just to dismiss opinions you disagree with and prove yourself right.

In my post I did say that his irritating behaviour is not what I had a problem with, when he isolated housemates and was threatening, that was beyond being irritating and extreme.”

Who did he isolate or threaten. You surely are not actually referring to his comeback to Calum calling him a dick as a threat are you?

I can remember Katie H and Michelle telling other HM to isolate him but not him isolating anyone.
James_Barker1
05-02-2015
Originally Posted by lynzee:
“Who did he isolate or threaten. You surely are not actually referring to his comeback to Calum calling him a dick as a threat are you?

I can remember Katie H and Michelle telling other HM to isolate him but not him isolating anyone.”

I am refering to Jeremy with the attempt to isolate, when Perez said to a number of housemates how he was fearing for his safety. When Natalie Cassidy did that to Andrew Stone she became hated on here.

He threatened Ken, when he said 'I would fear for my safety if I were you' and in the diary room Perez was pretty upfront that he meant it to come across threatening. Similarly, Alexandra was kicked out for a similar thing.

Both these things are behaviours that have made previous housemates be labeled nasty, so I think Perex counts on the same grounds.
ksmiggy
05-02-2015
Originally Posted by mmpfb:
“I don't remember him using the word 'disgrace', though I do remember Michelle using it about Perez. Also, it's a valid criticism - a self-appointed equality campaigner being friends with someone who actively promotes and revels in prejudice?



This thread is asking for hurtful and nasty things Perez has said, not misjudged and potentially inappropriate.




Oh noes. Nominated? Really? Wow. I don't think that's ever happened in the Big Brother house before has it?



Which bit? Perez blowing kisses? Or Alex's peacock-like homophobia with such gems as 'I'm going to get in your ass. You want it? Come get it', 'You know what would happen in the States' (violence presumably), imitating gunfire and, my personal favourite, 'faggot-ass face'.



Anybody remember Kinga? Yeah.



Overeaction, granted. Not really hurtful or nasty though. Hell, she takes pride in her bigotries, what's another one to add to the list?



Drama queen in being dramatic SHOCKER.



Rude, sure. Hurtful? Not really. Unless Callum's sense of manhood is so fragile he's ridiculously offended at the very thought of the theoretical possibility of an imaginary figurative penis in a mythical universe anywhere near his abstract self's intangible bum. Dude overreacted.



I probably would too. My mum's bigotry is depressing enough at times, but it's a mere smidgeon compared to Hopkin's.



Oh noes.



She doesn't. She may support equal rights. Good on her. But she doesn't represent me or many other members of the gay community. It's presumptive and arrogant for her to suggest she does. He was right to challenge that.




Thanks for trying, though.



There are certainly *some* people who don't like him because he's gay. There are also *some* people who don't like him because he's the wrong sort of gay. There's posts on this very thread that demonstrate that fairly clearly.




Not really.”



typical Perez fan answers, all of them assume your opinion is the right one, that's why you have so few answers to the question.
People can see through the trolling and accept the futility of arguing with people who are unwilling to change their opinion even when faced with the truth, almost in a bigot like way. that's why you have so few Answers.
Also as was pointed out elsewhere in the thread, skipping over the replies that show him in his true light is another Perez fan trait, look at Nadia.


feel free to call the police, or check the rule book.
kravchic
05-02-2015
Originally Posted by James_Barker1:
“Would you be able to engage with the examples and arguments people have given. All due respect but it just seems you started the thread just to dismiss opinions you disagree with and prove yourself right.

In my post I did say that his irritating behaviour is not what I had a problem with, when he isolated housemates and was threatening, that was beyond being irritating and extreme.”

When and to whom did he do that? I thought that was done to him?
revolver44
05-02-2015
Blew a kiss at a black American chap. Surprised he wasn't arrested, tbh.
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