If Anyone From Endemol Is Actually Here, Please Read Cause I Want BB To Succeed!!!!!!

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RabidWolverine1

05-02-2015

Originally Posted by o0Autumn0o:
“A great post, and many on this forum have great ideas.”

Agreed and thanks

Originally Posted by shazzersere:
“No offense but you need to get a life!”

No offense...but why bother replying to it then?

Luxray

05-02-2015

Well said OP, I agree with everything.

postit

05-02-2015

I have only one thing to add to your excellent post.

Sack all this year's producers!

Amelia_Sutherla

05-02-2015

An excellent post,I couldn't agree more,I said after last years winner that I would only watch the celeb bb but now I have given up on this.In future I will dip into DS just to see what's going on but will not watch unless there are some drastic changes.

KT_Dog

05-02-2015

I'll reply on behalf of Endemol, since I dont expect they will themselves.

"Dear all... Thanks for your thoughts. However we don't care. Huge ratings this year, largest social media presence ever, constant press coverage. We're making lots and lots of money!! Hooray us!"

Oh well.

postit

05-02-2015

Originally Posted by KT_Dog:
“I'll reply on behalf of Endemol, since I dont expect they will themselves.

"Dear all... Thanks for your thoughts. However we don't care. Huge ratings this year, largest social media presence ever, constant press coverage. We're making lots and lots of money!! Hooray us!"

Oh well.”

Dear Endemol

Enjoy it while you can. Next series' ratings will be lower than Bargain Hunt

KT_Dog

05-02-2015

Originally Posted by postit:
“Dear Endemol

Enjoy it while you can. Next series' ratings will be lower than Bargain Hunt”

"Dear postit, only in a world where goodness prevails, truths come out and the voice of fans are respected... Fortunately we don't live in that world... We work in telly! Yay us! We're winning! We'll ALWAYS win! And when we stop winning, even for a second, we'll just pull the plug and set up somewhere else. You will never defeat us. We own you. And you'll be with us and watching forever."

wow... My imaginary endomol representatives are kind of scary, I don't want them speaking through me anymore.

AbbieJay

05-02-2015

If you remember back to Big Brother 1, nothing much actually happened. Excitement was few and far between. It now has to be shocks and warnings about language, aggression etc 'from the beginning and throughout', which is a bit sad.

An Thropologist

05-02-2015

Nice job OP

open heart

05-02-2015

[quote=RabidWolverine1;76833502]Edit -

[. I remember when Nadia became the first TG winner.

I can't for 100% sure say im never going to watch this show again,

Great post, but...What does TG winner mean?

I'm not, and that's for definite.
Have decided I'm going to read for an hour between 9 - 10 pm. Entertainment the old fashioned way!

Piipp

05-02-2015

[quote=open heart;76837849]

Originally Posted by RabidWolverine1:
“Edit -

[. I remember when Nadia became the first TG winner.

I can't for 100% sure say im never going to watch this show again,

Great post, but...What does TG winner mean?

I'm not, and that's for definite.
Have decided I'm going to read for an hour between 9 - 10 pm. Entertainment the old fashioned way! ”

Transgender.

Scarlet O'Hara

05-02-2015

I completely agree with the OP's complaints.

The only complaint I'd add is that the whole tone of the show is just plain nasty. It appeals to the worst instincts of its viewers. They have a sociopathic disregard for the wellbeing of the HMs and only care about protecting themselves from Ofcom sanctions. And they treat the audience with the same contempt, deliberating making choices that they know will wind us up but get everyone talking about the show and voting in droves.

I'm currently debating with myself about whether to make this my last series. I started feeling 'icky' during BB14 when the external influences became ludicrous, when Daley was given sympathy for basically assaulting a female HM, and when the 'victim' was allowed to be punished by viewers and then by BBOTS. The procession of unsavoury winners and runners up pretty much symbolise what the show is now about and the lowest common denominator audience it appeals to.

Helsbels46

05-02-2015

Hear hear

Sansa_Snow

05-02-2015

Seconded

Also please bring back chalk board shopping lists. Please show housemates' conversations, not just the bitching and rows. Please get rid of the 'previously on...' and 'coming up'

Melax

05-02-2015

Haha. As if Endemol even care.

SegaGamer

05-02-2015

Originally Posted by shazzersere:
“No offense but you need to get a life!”

You say no offense and then go on to offend..................some people on here don't think before they write.

There is nothing wrong with being passionate about things and i am sure the OP has a life outside of Big Brother.

RabidWolverine1

05-02-2015

Originally Posted by SegaGamer:
“You say no offense and then go on to offend..................some people on here don't think before they write.

There is nothing wrong with being passionate about things and i am sure the OP has a life outside of Big Brother.”

Of course I do....The Voice

No I have a Wife to be, A job and Family/Friends who occasionally require attention at times

Oh and thanks for all the other comments again

Purple.

05-02-2015

Originally Posted by fredster:
“Great post Nathan, one thing I would add is, last year the awful Helen woods got a free pass to the final and she behaved appallingly, knowing she could do what she wanted and did. No more stunts like that please. Let everyone have an equal chance at winning.”

I agree.

Well said, OP.

NicoleRich

05-02-2015

Brilliant post OP.

digiqueen

05-02-2015

Great post OP. Can I please add 'stop scraping the Z list barrel for housemates.' All we are getting now are professional reality contestants who know how to play to the cameras.

johnan

05-02-2015

Great post OP. Says it all really.
Those who don't really understand how interesting and compelling the first BBs were will never grasp how the evolution over the years has been so detrimental to the enjoyment and immersion of the show.
Please Endemol do something about it.

Pissed_Off

05-02-2015

Great post!
I have always loved BB, right back to BB1 but I am really considering calling it a day now

I used to enjoy the housemates having to learn a skill or do an endurance task etc.
I think BB is virtually dead in the water.

mitacond

05-02-2015

Originally Posted by RabidWolverine1:
“Edit - Okay I scrolled up and wrote this after writing out my admitted rant just to point out there is no real discernible order to this rant. Im just saying it as it comes to me. Im saying it because its got to a point where I need to vent this out and this is the forum to do it. I just figured it was better to just have one huge moan than a few different topics so here goes nothing...

(God Bless DS for allowing rants )

The Many Things Wrong With A Show I Once Loved

STOP USING YOUR SPIN OFF SHOW TO TELL ME WHO I SHOULD BE SUPPORTING. All throughout your Channel 4 years even when you had HM's who were complete and utter idiots and you could see that with your own eyes, you still remained neutral and indifferent to all of the housemates on BBLB and BBBM. You gave all of the housemates pretty much equal amounts of time of pro's and negative's until they were evicted. So stop telling me who has been on "an incredible journey" or who has been "undoubtedly a great housemate". You are paid to put on the show...not to tell people who they should be voting for as an acceptable winner. I don't care if you think people like Hopkins or Helen have gone on some kind of redemption jounrey...stop telling peopl they are a worthy winner.

That's not for you to decide... Thats for us to decide. Heck you even hired a Geordie Bloke 15 years ago to tell us that we decide. Or have you just now decided that maybe you don't like that part of the show.

You know these earth shattering twists that are going to "rock the house to its very core"...Ever plan on delivering on one of those promises? Its basic common sense that if you build something up so much...more often than not it will not live up to expectations. Especially when its a way to try and keep the "contraversial" housemates away from being nominated.

Tell you what you could do if you wanted a huge shock twist that would rock the house to its very core...Bare with me because this might seem a little out there. Have them go up the stairs to nominate in the Diary Room in secret...and then when they least expect it...Keep it secret . You do so many twists and turns to ensure that nominations are not a secret anymore...that its not a shock. I would be more shocked if you had normal nominations and people didn't find out who nominated them.

If you have 12-16 people living in a house where they can not escape from, conflict will naturally happen. You don't need to always play hidden clips showing the bitching (Especially when you only tend to show it to people likely to pick fights). You seem more than capable of picking housemates who just love to have an argument to begin with.

If you want an actual "game show" where anything coul happen and go anyway, stop doing tasks every week to tell them public perception. You might want to be able to control who gets nominated through these tasks but it literally leaves Zero element of suprise. Every time you do these tasks...I could tell you who will be up for eviction. We don't need Eamon Holmes, James Jordan & Jim Davidson going in and telling people what everyone thinks of them. We don't need you to read out negative tweets about people...they are not supposed to know that kind of thing.

Speaking of which...with your nominations. Can you just have a constant rule of what makes you up for eviction. If you don't want it as the two or more with the highest number of votes because you want more people up, fine but at least come up with a new rule you stick to. Like 2 Nominations or more and your up...don't change it on the fly so you can yet again control who is up for eviction.

You are supposed to be "Reality TV" or at least that is what you call yourself. Reality is the state of things as they actually exist, as opposed to an idealistic or notional idea of them. So the more you interfere with the natural flow of things...is the less you actually are a "Reality" show. Right now I can barely tell the difference between yourselves and Made In Chelsea...well actually MIC is probably a little more high end at this point.

Your shopping tasks half the time I can't tell what actually qualifies for them passing the task. Sometimes you don't even give an answer to that yourself. For all we know your just sat there deciding whether you want to let them eat this week or not.

As for Live Feed...You know what I do want live feed, but I can live without it. The problem is you will never get away from people pointing out how much you interferre unless they can watch events unfold live themselves. If the cost is an issue to put it on TV then fine...Channel 4 successfully got paid live stream online. This has to be an easier option for you.

Even as it stands right now...you give us clips online for us to see to create "Exclusive as it happens content" and I get that, I really do. But to then only put half of the clip and in turn half of the story on the HL show is shooting yourself in the foot. I know HL shows are limited but if you are going to make the full clip available online and not put it in full on the HL show there will always be people pointing out how you are editing it in someones favour and you only have yourself to blame.

Most importantly and I Cant stress this enough...This rant is happening because I at one point loved this show. I watched Big Brother 1, I remember being captivated when Nasty Nick was ejected. I remember Brian Dowling breaking barriers when he first won, I remember when Kate became the first female winner. I remember when Nadia became the first TG winner. Ive enjoyed a hell of a lot of highs as a fan of Big Brother and defended it throuh a hell of a lot of lows...

The problem is the lows these days are by far outweighing the highs. Its getting harder and harder to justify to myself why I still watch this. Its completely unrecognizeable to the show I knew. I know you have to move with the times...but this is not Big Brother to me anymore.

I can't for 100% sure say im never going to watch this show again, because I still want to be a fan. But when BB is on at 9pm and I look and see a new BBC/ITV drama or maybe a comedy panel show on elsewhere...its getting a hell of a lot easier to choose them over Big Brother. The record button isn't even looking that appealing anymore.

I know you check these forums and will still probably not care in any way shape or form about this post but as someone who want's to be watching and supporting this show. Please remember...you had a much loved award winning show for a reason. It used to be something that people loved to talk about in work, school...anywhere. Now it is a walking definition of "Guilty Pleasure"...I don't know that many people who admit to watching this. Certainly not people who will admit to it in large groups.

Yeah so huge massive rant done for now

For anyone who has took the time to read...thanks very much.

Nathan ”

Agree

Tucks21

05-02-2015

I agree with most of the posts on here. My biggest gripe is the promotion of nastiness. In the last 18 months the deterioration of my enjoyment of BB has been in reaction to the awfulness of behaviour by the housemates. We now have the nasty, spiteful, crude, disgusting being pushed to the fore and winning. It really needs to be a more comfortable show to watch than it has been.

jobielad

05-02-2015

Excellent post Nathan, have you copied and emailed it to the production team c/o the website yet? Just an idea

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