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Don't be silly. This is just preposterous when given the actual scenario in your head. Callum said himself that if he wasn't in the house he'd ...............(insert what you want) to Perez. Does that mean he will murder him even though he didn't actually say the words? Just like Perez didn't actually say the words that he'd rape Callum.
There's really some very silly claims being made here.....and no offense, but you are just repeating ad nauseum what others are trying to claim. |
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Oh please. Do people not understand figurative language and extended metaphors?
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Oh please. Do people not understand figurative language and extended metaphors?
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I have no issues with people expressing their dislike for Pérez, outside or inside but when it goes above a certain nasty level imo your just as bad.
![]() Its the extreme choices of descriptive words towards Pérez that are making people softer to him when they do attack him in this way. The best way to tackle Pérez is expressyour dislike and opinions but not in a way in which you appear to be similar to his ilk. |
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Maybe you should read the post I was responding to, dear.
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Then maybe you now understand that I was claiming no physical threats of violence had been rendered by either Katie Hopkins or Perez. No apology necessary, enjoy your evening!
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Then maybe you now understand that I was claiming no physical threats of violence had been rendered by either Katie Hopkins or Perez. No apology necessary, enjoy your evening!
I owe no apologies when I took your post literally as you didn't actually say that you agreed how ludicrous the claims between the two instances were. But have a good evening yourself.
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I think Perez has shown a great deal of restraint and consideration since leaving the house. He has been shown the worst manners possible by the guests BB has chosen to invite on to BBOTS and even within the House itself. Honestly, I salute the man for his ability to remain calm and collected in the face of, frankly, quite abusive name-calling. He's an astute and intelligent guy, no matter what you made of his antics, and deserves a lot better than he's been getting.
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I think Perez has shown a great deal of restraint and consideration since leaving the house. He has been shown the worst manners possible by the guests BB has chosen to invite on to BBOTS and even within the House itself. Honestly, I salute the man for his ability to remain calm and collected in the face of, frankly, quite abusive name-calling. He's an astute and intelligent guy, no matter what you made of his antics, and deserves a lot better than he's been getting.
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I think Perez has shown a great deal of restraint and consideration since leaving the house. He has been shown the worst manners possible by the guests BB has chosen to invite on to BBOTS and even within the House itself. Honestly, I salute the man for his ability to remain calm and collected in the face of, frankly, quite abusive name-calling. He's an astute and intelligent guy, no matter what you made of his antics, and deserves a lot better than he's been getting.
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This entire season has been a witch hunt for Perez. I hope controversial Americans think twice before going on this show. Spencer & Heidi, Gary and Perez where all "different" and could be annoying to some (but like the other housemates don't have their own flaws) and were treated badly by the house. Poor Perez was treated bad by EVERYONE.
and Helen won her season…. hmm, not sure I will be back. Gary winning made me stay but now seeing how vicious the mob mentality is, I am disgusted. |
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This entire season has been a witch hunt for Perez. I hope controversial Americans think twice before going on this show. Spencer & Heidi, Gary and Perez where all "different" and could be annoying to some (but like the other housemates don't have their own flaws) and were treated badly by the house. Poor Perez was treated bad by EVERYONE.
and Helen won her season…. hmm, not sure I will be back. Gary winning made me stay but now seeing how vicious the mob mentality is, I am disgusted. |
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I know most Brits are not like this (bullies) but I have to say this show could give people the wrong opinion of Brits. However, unlike Michelle, I realize that groups of people contain a vast array of personalities and just because a lot of them give an impression of intolerant blind bullies, they do not represent the entire UK.
If I could get over the Helen win, the bullying of Gary and now Perez…..but it this continues then I will need to stop watching since it is upsetting. I know it is scripted (kind of) but the bullying and emotions are real unlike horror movies or disturbing movies. This bullying inside and outside the house upsets me more than the movie Martyrs (sp?) or the movie Inside….lol (I like twisted films). |
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I know most Brits are not like this (bullies) but I have to say this show could give people the wrong opinion of Brits. However, unlike Michelle, I realize that groups of people contain a vast array of personalities and just because a lot of them give an impression of intolerant blind bullies, they do not represent the entire UK.
If I could get over the Helen win, the bullying of Gary and now Perez…..but it this continues then I will need to stop watching since it is upsetting. I know it is scripted (kind of) but the bullying and emotions are real unlike horror movies or disturbing movies. This bullying inside and outside the house upsets me more than the movie Martyrs (sp?) or the movie Inside….lol (I like twisted films). Please. Perez was horrible all the way through. This was no 'defence' mechanism. It was a man who believes his own PR, coming in to a game show and thinking he'd make it all about him. He started everything. Right back at the beginning he was either posturing and shouting and screaming for the cameras, or in the Diary Room being arrogantly offensive, demanding that they remove certain housemates. Due to him saying he felt 'unsafe' we lost Jeremy and Ken. (Ken was subsequently bullied on Loose Women by Nadia's friends, and there's now a petition going round demanding an apology from them.) Next Perez targeted Alex, taunting him and goading him until he was a broken-down mess. Alex flung a stupid comment about Perez's 'silly+ass faggoty face' because Perez, a gay man, had been making homosexual gestures towards him all day. It was perfectly understandable. Not correct, but neither was Perez in what he subjected Alex to. The following day, Perez leaned over Alex's food and breathed heavily on to it - the implication was 'I'm gay, I might have AIDS. I hope this worries you and makes you lash out at me'. In the end, Alex had no choice but to leave. Katie and the others were appalled at what happened and it's the first time we saw the group (apart from his mouthpiece, Nadia) collectively shun him. Katie decided to taunt him, she said it was because of his behaviour. She was angry and upset, and unlike the others, didn't care how it looked to the cameras. She wanted him to apologise, she wanted him out of the house. Nobody (apart from Nadia) wanted him there - for their OWN reasons, not because Katie forced them not to like Perez. Perez decided to show he didn't care about Alex, or any of them. He pranced about half naked, taunting Katie. Don't forget, he lashed out at her right at the beginning, about seeing a married man - even though his Nadia had carried out affairs herself while married or in relationships, plural. Perez had previously researched each housemate and went in with a plan to destroy them. Apart from Nadia, who he said would be 'useful' to him. I could continue and refer to him sexually harassing the women and threatening to anally rape Callum. But it would take all day to cover his misdemeanors. I just wanted to point out the sequence of events that led to him being ignored by the housemates, on their own terms. Katie H stood up to him, on her own terms. She taunted him and Nadia, who was enabling his antisocial behavior. He courted the housemates' annoyance and deservedly got rewarded for it. If HE went too far in his anti British, arrogant rants, that's entirely HIS problem. |
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Someone being called vile by James Jordan and Jim Davidson.
It's like I'm in an alternate universe... |
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He may be an unbearable irritant but he is still a human being with feelings.
![]() And James Jordan can't talk...he's a horrible person too imo. This is another situation, like with Katie Hopkins vs. Perez, where EVERY person involved is a piece of sh***. I have trouble feeling sorry for Perez, but it's not like the other side isn't vile, disgusting worthless garbage as well. I mean James Jordan and Jim Davidson are horrible human beings. But so is Perez. Observing them all at once is like being given a tour of a sewage plant. Add in Katie Hopkins, a few feet away, and between the four of them you have kind of a spectrum of arseholes, all represented on-screen at once. |
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FGS, Calum & Michelle are American. Speidi came second. Alex had a lot of well earned respect. Jeremy and Ken were ejected because of their behaviour. This is not about Americans.
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Someone being called vile by James Jordan and Jim Davidson.
It's like I'm in an alternate universe... ![]() ![]() is quite laughable..
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It still doesn't diminish what he did in the first place.
If you judge people on their behaviour outside the house, there is really no one in there who has come in with clean hands... perhaps michelle but she has been a contradiction of herself. She supports LGBT but only if you meet her standards. She accepts praise from a homophobic old man, and makes money from merchandise fir LGBT which she has been promoting the whole series... |
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Controversy pays, we might find Perez is a guest next series.
Tbf he's been an absolute nightmare. |
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Wouldnt anyone be if they were isolated????
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perez gets a warning for saying il stick my dick up your arse, but katie hopkins is allowed to say she'll poisen his water or put a pan over his head. so biased its unreal
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So that's the reason he intimidated Alexander to the point he left the house? So entertaining! (Sarcasm)
Dropping snot laden tissues all over the house (witnessed by Keith) A man who had to ask how to clean up his own piss on the lavatory floor. He was also often beligerently staring at Perez and at one point standing right over him. Also Nadia said noone saw or more likely ignoring what Alexander was actually doing to Perez. He had to be pulled up a couple times for his homophobic comments. |
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I'm finally catching up with last night and ugh I don't like this already. I didn't think Eamon was too bad in the first part but I gather it gets worse. Someone saying Perez is a vile human being was teased before the break, you could see the hurt. This really isn't necessary.
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... sorry I've missed the last few CBB - who on earth is this guy?
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