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I No Longer Want Keith To Win
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Yasmin26
05-02-2015
Keith seemed like the only possible winner to me after Nadia and Perez left.

However I have been slowly going off him the last week.I hate to say this but Katie Hopkins was right about him .

I didn't like how he handled the whole situation with Katie H, so after she has been goading the guy for so long he ends up apologising to her to appease her.

He comes across as such people pleaser who stands for nothing.

I don't like how he has joined up with the gang to pick on Perez. Perez has done nothing to him in fact there were times when Perez was actually defending him and he ends up cutting him off. Way to take the easy way out by only taking on the weak.

.This man is pathetic and he has done nothing to deserve to win.
nemesisis
05-02-2015
utter tosh - keith never picked on Perez and he always tried to include him -
Stuart25
05-02-2015
I agree - I completely went off him last night when I saw a clip of him, Michelle and Calum celebrating Perez being evicted. It's as if he turned on Perez to get in the "cool group".

Katie Price is the only deserving winner in my eyes.
diesels hummin
05-02-2015
They are a sorry bunch, all full of shit. I wish cami li was still there at least you know where you stand with her, none of this bullshit.
chipbuttie1
05-02-2015
No, I still want Cheggers to win.
Moontaker
05-02-2015
When did he pick on Perez? Honestly sometimes I come to this forum and feel like I've been watching a different show to some.

It's all in the editing. The producers aka Katie Hopkins b*m l*ckers are doing a job on the public. This whole 'Keith's a game player' line is so old and so stupid, they're all playing a game, CBB is a game.

I think Keith was relieved and celebrating being a finalist more than Perez's departure, he had been up for eviction himself.
JamesLaFleur
05-02-2015
I now don't want him to win either after seeing him slagging off Perez as dull?? and celebrating his eviction when he seemed to have so much time for him.

All of the housemates are crap in my eyes now so won't be watching the final. I guess Callum would be the lesser of the evils but don't really care.
Yasmin26
05-02-2015
Originally Posted by nemesisis:
“utter tosh - he never picked on Perez ”

I disagree when Nadia was in the house her and Perez went out of their way to defend Keith and remind everyone what a nice man he was.

I think he had a real opportunity when everyone was ganging up on Perez to make stand and actually speak up for him, if he could not do that just stay quite. Rather than the little comments he makes to Perez and the way he silences him.

I mean he even had time to defend the plonker that is Kav.
fleet
05-02-2015
I think hes brilliant!
Miss Con Strue
05-02-2015
I have also gone off Keith. Even though Perez has defended him in the house, he joined the mean girls to celebrate his eviction. The only one left in their now I could bear to see win is Pricey - she is the only one that hasn't proved to be a two-faced, game player.
Bionic01
05-02-2015
Yes he disappointed me, Perez has defended him many times against KH's nasty comments about him, and that's how he thanks him. Weak.
nemesisis
05-02-2015
Originally Posted by Yasmin26:
“I disagree when Nadia was in the house her and Perez went out their way to defend Keith and remind everyone what a nice man he was.

I think he had a real opportunity when everyone was ganging up on Perez to make stand and actually speak up for him, if he could not do that just stay quite. Rather than the little comments he makes to Perez and the way he silences him.

I mean he even had time to defend the plonker that is Kav.”

so where was he picking on Perez? he didnt go along with the KH gang and talked to him - and what do you mean by silences him
lightblues
05-02-2015
Perez is a nightmare , how could anyone live with him , Cheggers for the win.
He was always forthright with Perez
ChoccyPeanuts
05-02-2015
It doesn't take much to make someone 'go off' someone.

And Katie Hopkins is black and white in her views. She's never right about anyone.
Yasmin26
05-02-2015
Originally Posted by Moontaker:
“When did he pick on Perez? Honestly sometimes I come to this forum and feel like I've been watching a different show to some.

It's all in the editing. The producers aka Katie Hopkins b*m l*ckers are doing a job on the public. This whole 'Keith's a game player' line is so old and so stupid, they're all playing a game, CBB is a game.

I think Keith was relieved and celebrating being a finalist more than Perez's departure, he had been up for eviction himself.”

I actually agree with this I don't think Keith is playing a game, saying he wants to win does not mean he is a game player. My point is that my perception has changed on Keith to from feeling sorry for him to seeing him as someone who is rather pathetic because he is determined to appease the majority of the house mates into liking him and that includes going against Perez.
Yasmin26
05-02-2015
Originally Posted by nemesisis:
“so where was he picking on Perez? he didnt go along with the KH gang and talked to him - and what do you mean by silences him ”

if someone is being bullied by a group of people and you go along with what they are doing, That makes you just as guilty in my eyes. When Perez made attempts to defend him against Katie he would sternly tell him to butt out. It seems to me that he wants to be liked by Katie and the others.
Yasmin26
05-02-2015
Originally Posted by ChoccyPeanuts:
“It doesn't take much to make someone 'go off' someone.

And Katie Hopkins is black and white in her views. She's never right about anyone.”

That's big brother for you.
muggins14
05-02-2015
I admire how Keith handled and dealt with Perez whilst Perez was there. Keith saw what was going on around him but rarely bit, he - as much as everybody else - must have been tired of the whole Perez game by the time Perez was evicted, it's no surprise he said it was dull... the whole Perez act grew old very fast. I think I lasted 3 days enjoying him, if that.

Just because Keith gave him the time of day and was generally cordial and polite to him, spent time with him, doesn't mean that he wasn't as relieved as everybody else for the 'fun train' to disembark.

As much as everybody else, he too had to live in the house with all the tension, arguing, etc. even though he participated in very little of it. I admire that he survived without blowing up more than he did, although I admired him greatly when he finally snapped at Hopkins. He spoke up when he felt the need.

I certainly don't see it as his job to stand up for Perez, nor do I think Perez - a supposedly grown man - needed anybody to stand up for him, he seemed quite capable of vocalising his thoughts and feelings on his own. I doubt Keith would have been able to make himself heard over Perez and Hopkins going at it most of the time. I know I'd have left them to it, why descend to their level?

I admire Keith surviving it all with a modicum of dignity still in place, unlike some.
sheila blige
05-02-2015
Originally Posted by Yasmin26:
“if someone is being bullied by a group of people and you go along with what they are doing, That makes you just as guilty in my eyes. When Perez made attempts to defend him against Katie he would sternly tell him to butt out. It seems to me that he wants to be liked by Katie and the others.”

This is so true. Someone ought to tell him that no matter how much he tries to be their friend - they don't want a boring old man in their little group. He's a bit of a div! I no longer want him to win because he's a jellyfish!
ChoccyPeanuts
05-02-2015
Originally Posted by Yasmin26:
“That's big brother for you. ”

This is true.
nemesisis
05-02-2015
Originally Posted by Yasmin26:
“if someone is being bullied by a group of people and you go along with what they are doing, That makes you just as guilty in my eyes. When Perez made attempts to defend him against Katie he would sternly tell him to butt out. It seems to me that he wants to be liked by Katie and the others.”

I dont recall Keith ever telling him to "butt out" Nadia and Keith got on really well and Keith like Nadia tried to let him know when he was going to far and not to react to KH. He was never bothered about being in KH's gang and thats why he gets on really well with KP who also does not tow the KH line. Perez was someone who wouldn't take advice which if not really Keith or Nadia's fault
Kewpee
05-02-2015
After 16 years of watching and reading thousands of posts about BB


I really don't give a flying fig who's gone off who at this stage, and doubt very much if those that have gone off any HM with only 48 hours to go.....ever actually supported them in reality.

Cynical moi?....of course

Every series, same tactic....'oh I've gone off so and so now, I don't want them to win anymore'.....like you ever did.....

Shepherds is all...out gathering wandering sheep......
Shoredette
05-02-2015
Anyone know what Keith was refering to in the kitchen with Perez after the talkshow with Eamon. He said he wasn't happy about the emotional strings being pulled and another card being used ????
bobbyd
05-02-2015
Originally Posted by Shoredette:
“Anyone know what Keith was refering to in the kitchen with Perez after the talkshow with Eamon. He said he wasn't happy about the emotional strings being pulled and another card being used ????”

Calum's dad ?
sheila blige
05-02-2015
Originally Posted by bobbyd:
“Calum's dad ?”

Yep! We'll probably get a load of sad old Man Utd fans from the 70's voting - if they can put their pint pots down and settle their whippets for long enough!
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