A lot of people blame Perez for Alex leaving.

Do you think BB do too?

Could that be why BB allowed Eamonn H, J Jordan and silly bollox, what's his name on the phone go and abuse Perez?


Was Alexander one of BB's top picks originally for CBB?

Perez didn't make him leave though, he just pulled a few faces.

He walked because he didn't get evicted and worked out he was unlikely to get nominated and had had enough of the whole thing.

Are they still blaming him for Ken leaving too?

I never did understand why they blamed him for that it wasn't his fault Alex was rather homophobic and unable to control his temper.

I'm not saying Perez is to blame for anyone leaving.

What I mean is, is BB blaming Perez and therefore, thought they were clever with their Eamonn Holmes stunt etc etc?

I get the impression not everything was shown regarding Perez/Alex... Not based on what everyone who was there is saying... We saw snippets, we saw Perez following him around, sitting down opposite him and just STARING at him silently, then following him when he tried to move and doing the same again... Getting up in the middle of the night, walking over to his bed and coughing repeatedly... All that Shabaz. It seemed a bit relentless, I wonder if it just went on and on and on?

And does anyone know how it started? I genuinely can't remember. Presumably Alex did something to make Perez start doing this?

Let's not forget that we were shown no diary room conversations about Alex leaving - we don't know what happened.

So it's all wild guessing. And my wild guess, for what it's worth, is that Alex had got himself into such a state that he could no longer guarantee to control his temper - and quite possibly it was affecting his health (blood pressure).

Perez said he felt physically threatened and I'm guessing Alex couldn't or wouldn't agree to any suggestions to calm down. So I think he left on health issues related to Perez.

Alex wasn't 'homophobic',- that's just a myth started by Perez fans.

There was Perez, on live feed one night, bragging that he was going to keep Alex awake by coughing next to his bed. Next morning at 5 am, Perez was filmed.standing at the head of Alex's bed, coughing. According to CBB news online, Perez stood there for a few hours, coughing. He followed this up by blowing kisses and grinning in a leering way, interspersed by poking his tongue backwards and forwards between the rabbit's ears, while leering at Alex. This continued for hours. Alex eventually snapped, saying "stop making those silly-ass faggotty faces at me'. He was referring to the faces Perez was making.

The next day Perez continued goading the old guy. He went and stood over Alex's food, breathing heavily on to it. It was a ploy, he was hoping Alex would say something AIDS related.

Alex didn't bite in that particular way, but he did say something like 'don't breathe over my food' which then led to an exchange of words. Alex went to the Diary Room, physically shaking, saying he couldn't cope, that he felt uncomfortable in every corner of the house. "There's not a corner of the house I feel safe in."

Eventually it got too much and Alex left. Perez laughed. The housemates, apart from Nadia, were upset and angry.

For the umpteenth time, this is the main reason the housemates turned on Perez.

yes, I can't recall that ever happening before, so all we can do is make assumptions.

My assumption is that BB helped Alex to get out quickly before any more fa**ot comments got them in trouble and cost Alex what was left off his career.

I can understand Perez driving anyone to distraction, but there are many ways to respond to him, as has been seen by the ways the other HMs act. Alex's responses crossed a line and so he has to take responsibility for his own reactions which led to his leaving/ejection.

On LW yesterday Perez said the reason for the coughing was, the bedroom door is locked at night and they can't get out to go to the DR and he needed to get some medication. He said he went into the toilet with his mic and asked BB to open the bedroom door for about 15/20 mins but they didn't listen to his request. He then told BB that if they didn't let him go to the DR he would start coughing in the bedroom until everyone woke up.


And yes, It would be interesting to find out why Alex left.

The thing is, we don't know what has happened in that house 24/7. You can only form those views by what BB allows to go out on the highlights.

And from what I've seen of Perez since he has come out of the house is a very eccentric person who has rather outlandish idea's and behaviour. This can be taxing for some to tolerate. I think Nadia recognised this very early and especially living with the guy 24/7. But some people react to eccentric people in the wrong way and simply because they don't know how to communicate with them. Eccentricity can be very hard to live with I'm sure.

I should think BB loved Perez from the start as in car crash tv, but I don't think they even estimated at the start what he could be like.

And it's very easy for some to blame a eccentric person for all wrongs. But, the eccentic person can also bring out the worst or best in some people.

As BB says in their statement, they know where the door is if they want to leave and Alex went through it.

BIB. Certainly something to consider.

I'm pretty sure, going by the housmates comments, that Perez would goad Alex into a reaction and then go into the diary room with the rule book saying how he 'feared for his safety'. Then he would probably say that he wanted to leave knowing full well that the producer's would do anything for him to stay, including kicking out Alex. As we weren't shown him ask to leave and he left a goodbye message, none of which has ever happened before, I expect that Big Brother and Alex came to some sort of agreement where he would leave the house so Perez could stay but also receive his full fee. That's my take anyway.

I don't see Perez as eccentric.

Infantile, yes, immature, yes, moronic, yes, self-involved, yes. Eccentric, no.

That could easily be a description of an eccentric person.

I doubt very much that BB would kick Alex out over Perez IMO.


I think Alex is a wonderful person and didn't know how to handle someone like Perez. Not many would.

As for the comments by some of the H/Ms regarding Perez, I would not be fully in agreement for sure. I think Katie H, Michelle and Callum would blame anyone rather than themselves for their behaviour. Perez IMO was an easy target.

I think if Perez was evicted in the first week, these three would have picked on other H/Ms. K H was also trying to isolate K P and Keith and trying to involve others. So their comments about Perez don't influence me in any way.

Good God, you're just making stuff up now.

There you go.

I agree 100%

A lot of conjecture and joining up the dots based on a highlights show and a few internet vids.

I'm sure Perez and Alexander didn't get on, but we never found the real reason it all started, which is pretty important before making judgements. Come to that, most of the housemates seem to think Perez hated Alex and waged a war on him to get him out, but the truth as always will be somewhere in the middle.

I remember Alex didn't want to be there, and then we were treated to Perez blowing kisses, coughing in the bedroom etc. Since then, Perez has explained why he was coughing in the bedroom, so this whole campaign to blame Perez for evrery bad thing just doesn't ring true.

What it has done, is allow others in the house to never be questioned on their behaviour, because they had a ready made whipping boy in Perez, and it seems plenty of the public feel the same, which is kind of sad and doesn't reflect reality.

First thing is, you like everyone else on here don't know whether he is homophobic or not so give up on this Perez fans nonsense! He did however make a homophobic comment which was flippantly brushed under the carpet especially with the great gay rights campaigner sitting right next to him (Michelle). She did tell him it was wrong but you have to ask yourself what her and the others reaction would have been if the roles were reversed and it had of been Perez making the said statement. I'm sure the morale outrage would have been something else. Perez was an annoying twit but overall a harmless one who IMO most of his behaviour was indeed a defense mechanism as he seemed to interact quite well on a one to one level. As for your comments about him breathing heavily on the food whilst waiting for a comment about AIDS Really! Your hearing must be amazing, that along with your ability to read Perezs mind is also astonishing.

If Perez wasn't in the house Alexander would still be in. But then I suppose that's the same as saying if Chloe wasn't in the house, Jeremy might till be in. Fact is, this is the way the series unfurled. Perez didn't directly get rid of Alexander but his antics probably accerelated Alexander's departure.

If we are making wild predictions I believe if Perez had left early on or not been in there Alicia, Keith and Patsy would have been bullied out of there. It has only been because they took on Perez they failed as he was stronger than them and took it.

No he wouldn't - he had gigs to perform last weekend - it was always his plan to be out early.

On the first eviction interview Chloe sais Alex was gutted not to have been voted out and that she thought he would walk.

We see very little of what goes on in that house. We only see what fits in to make up the planned narrative. Perez's actions did seem a bit bizzarre and out of the blue at times - obviously they did because we didn't see what had led up to it.

On the little we did see I saw a very intolerant, angry man allowing himself to get into a state. The fact we didn't see what happened in the diary room speaks all.

When we saw him on BOTS he was an incoherent shambolic mess. Pretty obvious that the guy has problems. Perez is/was immature and a major irritant - I think that's pretty par for the course in BB - Alex just couldn't hack it and never had any intention of doing so.

Good point. For me, Perez has been the fall guy and whipping boy of the house. He doesn't help himself with the way he speaks to people (or at them sometimes) but he is not the devil incarnate he is made out to be.

Cracking housemate and made the series, uncomfortable viewing at times watching others sideline him, but it was compulsive viewing.

Now he's gone it just ain't the same no more honey..

Unfortunately for them most did not see it as being clever but something far more, seemingly, perverse. I was amazed that Eamonn lowered himself to even take part as the whole thing was inimical. Last night on BOTs BB seemed to be backtracking after so many were aghast at treatment Perez received on the Wednesday BBOTs when Perez asked were his rabbit Mr. Buns Rylan said he was dead and they had thrown Mr. Buns away. They presented him with the china rabbit with a bandage over his head.